What exactly are you expecting Apple wants to do with it's OLED laptop displays? I thought the point was to get an OLED display on a MacBook so people can enjoy the benefits of an OLED? If Apple's chasing some distraction that is taking years to reach, that's fine, but in the mean time, couldn't Apple use what's available now?
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I've got 3 laptops with OLED (2.8K, 3K and 4K resolutions) and I don't see any blurry text. I know there might be issues with touchscreens due to the digitizer layer causing blur or even a slight "screen door" effect.
I'm putting the emphasis in one area because that's what this article and thread is about -- OLED displays! Let's stick to the topic. There are plenty of examples of beautiful OLED displays in lower cost Windows laptops. It's not a fluke. The point being that OLED doesn't need to be expensive. But Apple is chasing down some excuse to make it expensive.
A chart that suggests that the foldable device noted the other day is probably an iPad Pro rather than a MacBook. But who knows.
Easiest purchase of my life. Gonna get a maxed out (M5?) 16inch MacBook Pro with OLED and a 120hz screen. And I'm going to love every second of it
No. Creative professionals and other products benefit and expect such HDR performance something that Nvidia is also aligned with. Top monitor line-ups like Asus’s ProArt series are aligned as well.
It’s no coincidence the sustained 1000 nits and 1600 peak nits with Dolby Vision HDR+HLG HDR support is consistently across their Mac Pro products (The Pro Display XDR, Macbook Pro, iPad Pro, and so on with Vison Pro and iPad Pro debutting superior OLED tech with as great or better HDR performance)
You‘re pretty insistently ignoring the fact that “OLED display” isn’t one monolithic technology with identical capabilities; for a consumer-facing illustration of this, look at the wide pricing range for the same screen size within LG’s OLED TV lineup. Apple doesn’t tend to lower their specification targets—whether or not every end user agrees with those—just to say that they technically included a new technology.
OLED displays also consume more power unless mostly showing black or dark colors and have much improved but still present concerns for burn-in of static elements and screen-wide color and brightness degradation. There may be cost hurdles to sourcing screens with subpixel layouts suitable for text, as the iPhone’s solution of simply raising the pixel density would not be feasible for already higher-resolution devices. The M4 iPad Pro signals that many of these have been acceptably addressed, but Apple’s criteria for the MacBook Pro are likely a bit different.
Than any reasonable person needs? Sounds like a personal problem the world doesn’t revolve around your limited needs for a computer—especially Macbooks and Macs that aren’t anywhere close to the most capable computing laptops and desktops in the market.
I agree, it's frustrating that it takes Apple so long to implement technology. I think they are perfectionists, and release things when they're good an ready. Fortunately they're in a position where they can pull this off, smaller companies couldn't afford to. I understand it feels like they're being complacent and lazy sometimes.
When I give it thought however, I think it's better to do a great job, rather than to be first at it. In the long run people will appreciate it and think it's worth the wait.
If the MBP could get the Tandem OLED and M4 treatment like the iPad Pro did a couple weeks ago, that would be greeeeat. However, I'm thinking it will only get the M4 treatment this year, and OLED treatment M5 or even M6.
Perhaps the M4 Pro 14" and 16" MPB's will get them even if 14" M4 MBP keeps miniLED a bit longer.
Probably wishful thinking that it will hit MBP's at all this year or next.
Perhaps the M4 Pro 14" and 16" MPB's will get them even if 14" M4 MBP keeps miniLED a bit longer.
Probably wishful thinking that it will hit MBP's at all this year or next.
I'd have to think and do some reading, but I think that Apple made displays that were much brighter than OLED's could get with LCD and LED backlighting, as well as avoiding the burn-in that OLED was prone to at the time.
I believe Apple achieved much greater brightness with LCD and LED backlighting than OLED was able to years ago, without the major risk of burn-in the OLED had at the time.
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Haha. Who said make it thicker? That typical want is “more battery instead of making it any thinner” thus same thickness. In this round, not “slim”mer… but longer battery life.
I don’t recall seeing many wishes for “thicker for battery”- only for flush vs.camera bump instead of wobbly iPhone on surfaces- a very different- but also popular- wish.
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An OLED 15” 2880x1800 display in 2012? Are you serious? That would have added another $1000 to the price tag easily back then if it was even possible.
I haven’t had any experience with recent 3k OLED but I have a windows laptop which is about 18 months old with a 2.8k / 90 Hz OLED touchscreen. I’ve found the GPU is underpowered to drive the display at that refresh rate for anything other than basic business apps. It also has a significant screen door effect which took some time to get used to. I prefer the OLED screen look and colour accuracy over my MBA but I find I get a lot more eye strain with it than my MBA.
The 15" Retina MacBook Pro was released in 2012 and had a 15.4" 2880x1880 resolution display. Was Apple supposed to include monitors that didn't exist yet? Apple sometimes leads the curve on tech, but there's only so much that can be done if things don't exist yet and don't offer clear benefits.
The first laptops with OLED screens were released in 2016. The Lenovo X1 had a 14" screen and a 2550x1440 display resolution. The Alienware 13 had a 13" 2560x1440 resolution screen. Both struggled with color accuracy, but were somewhat fixable with calibration.
Yeah? Many people would have purchased a maxed out oled retina MacBook Pro. It wouldn’t have been for everyone, but it’s better to have the option than not.
Well this thread rapidly became a pool of the usual whiners... all over a rather nebulous and unsubstantiated article by a self-serving consultant.
I want a sub 5ms response time display with a minimum variable refresh of 120hz. Don’t care what panel tech gets me there.
Because it keeps people updating their hardware. If they hold out on all these industry standard features when they do finally come out users feel like upgrading unnecessarily because it's the feature they've been waiting on for so long.
So are they trying to figure out how to get an OLED to do the awful blooming and "meh" pixel response times of the MacBook Mini-LED Laptop displays?