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Sorry to hijack the thread. I just have good memories shooting with my old cameras and lenses. Can’t beat the camera gear. But the phones take nice photos too.
 
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Long lens with fast aperture, maybe f/2.8 or so, plus close to subject equals major bokeh. Short lenses too. Think 50mm f/1.8, close subject.

This was shot with a 50mm lens at 1.8 if I remember correctly. I was very close to the subject.

Getting out of topic in this thread so this might be my last response about this. Only thing I could think of is difference in sensor sizes from a 35mm to a 21.9mm sensor which would have a wider DOF as you decrease the sensor size.

That's why there's bokeh slider inside the app that emulates a 35mm DOF because the sensor is very small that it cannot produce a good bokeh without that emulator unless your background is hundreds of meters away from your subject and the phone is within a meter away from the subject.
 
Getting out of topic in this thread so this might be my last response about this. Only thing I could think of is difference in sensor sizes from a 35mm to a 21.9mm sensor which would have a wider DOF as you decrease the sensor size.

That's why there's bokeh slider inside the app that emulates a 35mm DOF because the sensor is very small that it cannot produce a good bokeh without that emulator unless your background is hundreds of meters away from your subject and the phone is within a meter away from the subject.

My cameras were never full frame. 1/3 I think. Those were the old days regarding sports cameras. Anyway. I’m drunk and don’t understand what you’re saying. But have a good one.
 
I want to see some photos of distant trees at full resolution to see if the leaves turn to mush. Anyone have examples?
[doublepost=1537593359][/doublepost]So for the iPhone X in this series, was hdr turned on or was it left off?



I did a little photo walk today and compared the Xs, X, and my Pixel 2 cameras today. I have only limited time with my iPhone X, as I am going to give it to my mom to replace her iPhone 6.

Overall, I like the camera for both photos and videos, over the X, and in some cases the Pixel 2. Here are some of my shots and commentary. on them

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In late afternoon light all 3 phones do well at pulling out details from a well lit scene. Overall I prefer the X and Pixel 2 images over the Xs in this case. In these shots I did not touch to focus or set exposure, I just pulled out the cameras and took the pictures.

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Different scene, but the same tactic, take out the phone, take a picture. Here you can see the added computational photography come into play with the Xs over the X. Notice how the trees over the bridge in the iPhone X shot are completely washed out as compared to the Pixel 2 and iPhone Xs.

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2X zoom on all 3 cameras. Amazing how well the Pixel 2 stacks up to the iPhones while having a single fixed lens. This gives me strong hopes that the Xr will do quite well with a single lens. Overall in this shot, I like how the Xs pulls out more details in the lower light, all without blowing out the highlights above the path.

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3rd shot is Pixel 2 without watermark


Portrait mode
While this mode is intended for taking pictures of faces, perhaps animals and other beings, I often use it (on my Pixel 2) for pictures of plants, beer, car parts, and other items where I want good depth of field. Overall, I have never been happy with portrait mode or effects on the iPhone X. It always tended to have poor edges, and do a bad job of locking focus.

Final Thoughts
The Xs had far more keepers in my testing today than did the X, though for me, the winner is still the computational effort the Pixel 2 puts into these types of portrait style shots. That said, none of these do as well as my Sigma 1.4 on my full frame camera. There really is no replacement (yet) for a good Film, DSLR, or Mirrorless camera and good glass to go with it.

Overall on the Xs Camera, I like it better than the X, and in some cases it is better than the Pixel 2, and other places falls behind. My biggest issue with the Xs is how it tends to over compensate for low light by bringing up the shadows too much in some of my examples. If that could be toned down a little, it would be far more appealing in my opinion.




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To be edited later, I am putting the Xs above both other phones. Really good focus, exposure control, OIS, and (finally) stereo audio Make this the best ever iPhone for video (IMO).
 
My cameras were never full frame. 1/3 I think. Those were the old days regarding sports cameras. Anyway. I’m drunk and don’t understand what you’re saying. But have a good one.

Thanks. YouTube has lots of videos about this too BTW.

Assuming gsmarena has the correct camera specs for the iPhone Xs Max, it has a 1/2.55 inch sensor, f/1.8, 3.9mm lens (28mm on 35mm sensor BTW). Therefore, if you want to replicate that with a 35mm sensor, you would need a 28mm lens and f/12 setting. As you know, f/12 has a very large DOF thus requiring the adjustable Bokeh slider.
 
Thanks. YouTube has lots of videos about this too BTW.

Assuming gsmarena has the correct camera specs for the iPhone Xs Max, it has a 1/2.55 inch sensor, f/1.8, 3.9mm lens (28mm on 35mm sensor BTW). Therefore, if you want to replicate that with a 35mm sensor, you would need a 28mm lens and f/12 setting. As you know, f/12 has a very large DOF thus requiring the adjustable Bokeh slider.

I believe I understand what you’re saying now. The phone does a great job with close subjects. But on a 100-yard field, you simply can’t get that close with a phone, or any other subject of great distance.

Also, I’m a purist. A real camera doesn’t need unnecessary software. The DSLR acts the same as an SLR. Pixels capture what film did before. It’s an art. It takes someone who knows how to capture a scene in a truly artistic way. Not just snapping away and changing bokeh after the fact. I learned from a small book three things. Aperture, shutter speed and ISO. Then I started turning the dials.
 
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Also, I’m a purist. A real camera doesn’t need unnecessary software.

So you don't enhance images after it's taken? It's a shame though since it's actually the point of having a DSLR IMO. It's a contradictory to capture the scene in an artistic way without having to enhance it. I use an app to do the same with an iPhone by using an app to manipulate DOF, add lens flares, long exposed skies, color grading, dodge and burn, skin retouch for portraits.
 
So you don't enhance images after it's taken? It's a shame though since it's actually the point of having a DSLR IMO. It's a contradictory to capture the scene in an artistic way without having to enhance it. I use an app to do the same with an iPhone by using an app to manipulate DOF, add lens flares, long exposed skies, color grading, dodge and burn, skin retouch for portraits.

Ok. Retouching is normal. Like color and levels. But if you’re adjusting depth of field of a photo taken by a phone and passing it off as talent, you’re a *****. Plain and simple. In fact, your arguments altogether make you seem like a total ***. So take some decent photos and post them like I have. Maybe some of your fuzzy slippers.

Jesus Christ. I’ve posted quality photos with a real camera while you bitch, bitch, bitch. I’m tired of your nonsense. You are not a photographer. You snap shots with your phone. That’s like taking a **** and asking your dog if he’s proud of you.

Bye, now.
 
Damn it!! I knew this would happen.. reading some early reviews about the camera I kinda thought I’d have to get an XS because finally an iPhone that can take decent doggy photos! Been struggling with that with iPhones! Hmm I’ll see if I can hunt them down today and have a play.
 
If only now they could get rid of this still awful noise reduction or what it is that reduces all those details. I'm impressed with the update but will keep my X, looking forward to next year's iteration :)
 
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The top image was taken with my 8 Plus and the bottom taken with my Max. Three things to note.
First, the Max focused immediately to produce the bottom photo without me needing to tap in the right place for exposure.
Second, If I tapped on the window in the top photo taken with the Plus, the blinds wouldn’t be washed out but the rest of the photo would be extremely dark.
Third, because of the previous issue, I tapped to focus on the the dog in the chair in each photo prior to taking (to make the comparison legit).

The types of situations are where I really see the camera on the Max shine.
 
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