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Omnia HD!

Is S60 any good ?

I have the original iphone from day 1, and I've been well pleased with it. But I think it's also fair to say that there are definately some interesting phones on the way. The Omni HD looks fantastic. Obviously I know we should wait to see what the next iphone will bring (hoping of course it's this summer in time for the end of our original contracts), as it might just blow this away, who knows.

Can anyone give a fair opinion of the Symbian operating system? Is it really good, really bad, stable, unstable? Is it easy to get other applications / games and so on for these symbian phones, how do they compare with the app store etc? Are they more expensive, more difficult to find?

I do love my iphone, and I would love to upgrade to a new one, but I cant help but feel we are a little left behind on some of the hardware specs compared to this Omnia HD for example, and I'm just not sure the excellent iphone OS is enough for me for another 18 months...Of course I know the original iphone is getting on a bit now so you would hope the next one will take a big leap forward on the hardware side. I'm just not that confident that it will and that's why I didn't upgrade to the 3G iphone last year, it just didn't seem to be enough of an improvement to me (just my opinion, please dont bite !).

Decisions decisions !

Any idea who the UK carrier will be ?

Thanks everyone, love to hear some opinions...
 
Theaser said:
I want to just CRUSH these threads. Those phones offer nothing but good specs. I like how fast and agile you can navigate on the iPhone while on the Omnia and Nokia N97, you can clearly see the lag and the slowness of the multi-touch on those devices. I don't care about the 8MP camera since a camera should be a camera and a phone should be a phone unless you want a quick snap of something interesting. I don't care about the feature where teenagers can text each other about their drinking stories. I don't give a s*** about OLED display since I think the current iPhone display is good enough unless you want to see Meryl Streep HD on a movie (I bet none of you will want to). That said, no phone can be compared to the iPhone unless the navigation and the simplicity can be matched. iPhone, I will have to say, is still the king of multi-touch screen phones.

Apple has it's own agenda for the iPhone and so far, I'm happy with it.
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Someone looks they took this post personally.
You will be the same one who shoves their new iPhone in all their friends faces even though it will have the exact same specs as the Omni. but the features/specs would be useful because Apple came out with it and not Samsung. And you dont care about features like TEXTING and improving the screen? so Apple should just stick with what they have because it is "good enough" if you follow Apple you know they do nothing just "good enough". You dont even know Apple's agenda so how can you be happy with it. There is no more then 10-20 people in the world that know Apple's agenda.

P.s. Why Meryl Streep? did you really have to bring it to that extreme to make your point?
 
It is very promising phone. Could be the phone for 2009.

Only negative aspect I can see is that it is a non-Nokia Symbian phone. Some of the best Symbian software is done by Nokia (Sport tracker, Nokia maps, etc), and unfortunately most of Nokia's Symbian software is locked to work only on Nokia hardware. Of course there's loads of Symbian software out there, so its not a complete deal breaker. Hopefully this will change in the near future, now that Symbian is becoming open source.
 
Matti said:
It is very promising phone. Could be the phone for 2009.

Only negative aspect I can see is that it is a non-Nokia Symbian phone. Some of the best Symbian software is done by Nokia (Sport tracker, Nokia maps, etc), and unfortunately most of Nokia's Symbian software is locked to work only on Nokia hardware. Of course there's loads of Symbian software out there, so its not a complete deal breaker. Hopefully this will change in the near future, now that Symbian is becoming open source.
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I am far from a symbian expert, but I think it should all work because they are using the same Symbian OS as the N97. I think the offshoot versions of the Symbian OS that Sony Ericsson and Motorola used (UIQ?) are no longer being put on new phones.

This phone looks really good. I am curious to see what it will cost when it arrives in the US though. And IMHO, syncing has become less of an issue with google sync, OTA app downloads, and micro/miniSD cards. If I have anything that has to go from computer-->device, I can skirt the entire sync system by just popping my card into a reader and moving the files.
 
question fear said:
I am far from a symbian expert, but I think it should all work because they are using the same Symbian OS as the N97. I think the offshoot versions of the Symbian OS that Sony Ericsson and Motorola used (UIQ?) are no longer being put on new phones.
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You are sort of both correct and wrong.

Yes, it uses same flavour of Symbian as Nokia does and its fully binary compatible. However, lots of Nokia's apps are locked to work only on Nokia hardware. Similar situation as (Intel) OSX running only on Apple's hardware. OSX should work on any computer using X86 compatible processor, but Apple locked it to work only on Macs.

(and yes its possible to hack around the problem in both cases)
 
anjinhamarota said:
But it doesn't run OS X...
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What is so good about Mobile OS X? The fact that it is based on a full desktop operating system but on a platform with 128 Mb of RAM? IMO the OS is a bit overkill. Seriously, sometimes I'll just be playing a song on the iPod and I'll hit the back arrow to return to the playlist and the lag is just horrible. The status bar will turn white but the playlist takes like 5 seconds to load - and just forget if I accidentily tip it to cover flow and back, might as well take a nap.

If you are talking about the UI, I agree, the iPhone is very fluid. I also think it's every ignorant to think the fluidity of the touch interface is going to be unique to the iPhone for much longer.
 
Eso said:
anjinhamarota said:
But it doesn't run OS X...QUOTE]

What is so good about Mobile OS X? The fact that it is based on a full desktop operating system but on a platform with 128 Mb of RAM? IMO the OS is a bit overkill. Seriously, sometimes I'll just be playing a song on the iPod and I'll hit the back arrow to return to the playlist and the lag is just horrible. The status bar will turn white but the playlist takes like 5 seconds to load - and just forget if I accidentily tip it to cover flow and back, might as well take a nap.

If you are talking about the UI, I agree, the iPhone is very fluid. I also think it's every ignorant to think the iPhone is going to be unique to the iPhone for much longer.
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I'm just so used to the iPhone's OS and love it so much that I don't like to use anything else.

Sometimes I promote new phones that come out, and I have training on them and have to use them for a few weeks and I always miss my iPhone, not because I'm an apple fanboy (or girl in this case) and irrationally think that everything apple makes is better, but because I truly love how the iPhone works.

That being said I know all the features from a lot of phones, what they can and cannot do and know that the iPhone isn't the best fit for everyone.
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IMHO, I don't think Omnia HD would be any different from the dozens of phones Samsung tends to release every year. I just don't see it making any impact at all. It's just another full featured phone with a super camera and a nice high resolution screen, but that's all there is to it. From the videos I've seen, the web browser is sub-par, the touch screen doesn't seem responsive, the interface is tacked on (TouchWiz over S60).

When the first iPhone was announced back in 2007, it really set the bar high for what's possible on a smart phone. Multi-touch, and the clean and fluid UI were unmatched. Safari in particular was just mind blowing, nothing even came close to it back then. Even now, Safari is still king. Please, no one tell me that Safari isn't a "real" web browser because it's missing Flash. As a Flash developer, I strongly believe that Flash does not belong anywhere near a mobile device in its current form.

The only phone that I see as a real competitor to the iPhone is Palm Pre. It matches the iPhone in the UI and the web browsing experience, but it also has great multi-tasking features with its powerful notification UI (It's like Growl for a phone!). Not that you can't multi-task on the iPhone (you can browse the web while you're on the phone), but the "card" paradigm is just ingenious. I'm pretty sure Apple is keeping a close eye on it.

That's all I have to say :)
 
Shackler said:
Someone looks they took this post personally.
You will be the same one who shoves their new iPhone in all their friends faces even though it will have the exact same specs as the Omni. but the features/specs would be useful because Apple came out with it and not Samsung. And you dont care about features like TEXTING and improving the screen? so Apple should just stick with what they have because it is "good enough" if you follow Apple you know they do nothing just "good enough". You dont even know Apple's agenda so how can you be happy with it. There is no more then 10-20 people in the world that know Apple's agenda.

P.s. Why Meryl Streep? did you really have to bring it to that extreme to make your point?
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My point was, stop calling other phones with touch screens iPhone Killer unless they really made iPhones disappear.
 
kdarling said:
The Touch Diamond 2 and Pro 2 look very nice as well, with their 800x480 screens.

I like the way you can review everything related to a person you're talking with... emails, texts, calendar, etc.

The zoom bar under the screen (so you can do it one-handed and not cover the image or page with your fingers) seems to be a useful idea.

HTC devices also have a thriving mod community.
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I haven't gotten rid of my Fuze. In fact, less than 15 minutes ago I had to send a friend an MMS message. I'm definately getting whichever of these two are sold by AT&T. Hopefully later this summer. And it'll probably be less than a day before xda has a hacked rom for it. ;-) Doesn't mean I'll get rid of the iPhone, but unless the upcoming 3.0 has some major changes and feature additions, it's going to be as back burner as my Blackberry is now. Put up or shut up, Apple, your Smartphone for Housewives is looking pretty dull these days!
 
Symbian isn't really in the league of Palm's Web OS, Android or iPhone OS X. It needs more work to be responsive with a touch interface. It also needs new third-party apps redesigned for larger screen sizes and optimised for touch, which there aren't that many.

If you're looking for a phone with better camera/video capabilities than the next iPhone perhaps you could consider an upcoming android-based device - there will be plenty on sale by the end of the year and I'm sure there will be at least one 8MP/720p ones in there.
 
Actually, Samsung looked to apple on the Omnia HD. HDomnia.com was reporting about the glass screen and good build quality. Now, as good as a iphone...maybe not. But if you can appreciate the Ford Focus Rally car you may find the Omnia HD to be your speed.

GFSarah said:
Well said.
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Here is my beef.

Not a Symbian or WinMo fan. Which happen to be where the most powerful phones reside.....yet for whatever reason, The G1/G2, most blackberrys, the iPhone and the Palm Pre all run a lot smoother than those.


None of those specs will make my day to day mobile phone usage anything better than it is now.....so I see no need for it other than the geek fetish.
 
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