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One aspect of the battery complaints that makes me laugh... dual core CPU!!!

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isoft7

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People seem ignorant to the fact that while adding a second core to a CPU doesn't increase power consumption by 2x, it does certainly increase the drain just the same.

So, those who seem absolutely shocked by the lesser battery life of the 4s... pop the A5 out and put an A4 in if it's such a life or death issue for you. :D

Also, I'd assume the new antenna design has something to do with the battery life differences.
 
MBHockey said:
what a horrible philosophy regarding trash posts (as both of yours in this thread are.)
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Interesting that you feel your opinion holds enough value to provide justification for judgement of mine.

The irony is obvious.

But this forum is blind to things that are most obvious any ways.
 
isoft7 said:
Interesting that you feel your opinion holds enough value to provide justification for judgement of mine.

The irony is obvious.

But this forum is blind to things that are most obvious any ways.
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I think they see that how obvious it is that this thread sucks.
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oshia86 said:
I think they see that how obvious that it is that this thread sucks. Image
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And once again, to suggest your judgement of what is valuable information, or topic worthy conversation is more accurate or precise than mine is the absolute height of arrogance.

I have yet to see a single reference made to the battery "issues" experienced having anything to do with the new dual core CPU and as it seems the vast majority of iPhone users are ridiculously undereducated when it comes to all things technical, I felt a desire to create this thread and point out something that seems terribly obvious to me.

If you feel there is no benefit to what I have posted, don't read it.

It's stuff like this that makes me feel like an idiot for buying an Apple product.
 
isoft7 said:
People seem ignorant to the fact that while adding a second core to a CPU doesn't increase power consumption by 2x, it does certainly increase the drain just the same.

So, those who seem absolutely shocked by the lesser battery life of the 4s... pop the A5 out and put an A4 in if it's such a life or death issue for you. :D

Also, I'd assume the new antenna design has something to do with the battery life differences.
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You forget about a few things.

1. People are complaining about battery life that doesn't last 8 hours with very light usage. This is a bug not a number of core issues.

2. Dual cores would complete the task much faster leaving more time of the CPU in a sleep mode.

3. When viewing CPU usage often my phone sits at 50-70% while doing nothing once again this is a bug.

4. The CPU should be more effecient so it will make up for the dual core aspect to some extent.


Once the issues are sorted out then we can have a fair comparison to the iPhone 4 for battery life.
 
Dual core or even quad core chips don't necessarily draw more power over an older single core.
The newer chips are built to be more efficient and draw less juice stay cooler etc...
 
isoft7 said:
And once again, to suggest your judgement of what is valuable information, or topic worthy conversation is more accurate or precise than mine is the absolute height of arrogance.

I have yet to see a single reference made to the battery "issues" experienced having anything to do with the new dual core CPU and as it seems the vast majority of iPhone users are ridiculously undereducated when it comes to all things technical, I felt a desire to create this thread and point out something that seems terribly obvious to me.

If you feel there is no benefit to what I have posted, don't read it.

It's stuff like this that makes me feel like an idiot for buying an Apple product.
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lol at your attempt to make yourself sound more informed than others here.

Here is a hint, there are tons of people on this forum that know the technical aspects of a dual core cpu, and how that effects the phones battery and other components.

Did you ever consider that the new dual core CPU might have more power management, a better process, etc. to make it more efficient than the older A4?
 
trainguy77 said:
You forget about a few things.

1. People are complaining about battery life that doesn't last 8 hours with very light usage. This is a bug not a number of core issues.

2. Dual cores would complete the task much faster leaving more time of the CPU in a sleep mode.

3. When viewing CPU usage often my phone sits at 50-70% while doing nothing once again this is a bug.

4. The CPU should be more effecient so it will make up for the dual core aspect to some extent.


Once the issues are sorted out then we can have a fair comparison to the iPhone 4 for battery life.
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1. People who complain about battery life not lasting 8 hours with only light use have a very skewed idea of what "light use" really means.

2. Only if all applications/tasks were written to be multithreaded and done so in a way that utilizes both cores as best as possible... which has never been accomplished.

3. That would seem a bug, I agree with you there.

4. Doesn't work that way.

...if it was an actual software defect with iOS5, all users would experience these same issues, not just some. I have had no problems with mine, because I actually know how to use technology and understand just what to expect.

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offcamber said:
Dual core or even quad core chips don't necessarily draw more power over an older single core.
The newer chips are built to be more efficient and draw less juice stay cooler etc...
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Ah, if only I could discuss my career openly, the things I could add to this conversation. :D

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oshia86 said:
lol at your attempt to make yourself sound more informed than others here.

Here is a hint, there are tons of people on this forum that know the technical aspects of a dual core cpu, and how that effects the phones battery and other components.
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Then someone should have made this exact same argument, no?
 
oshia86 said:
OMG, I can't believe you are the first person to ever think of this! THANK YOU!!!

Is that the response you were looking for?
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Hah, hardly... I didn't expect anyone to praise my thread, but I also didn't expect anyone to be a dick about it either.

Strange how in todays world we can't seem to ever find a middle ground, everything always has to be so "x-treme".
 
isoft7 said:
But this forum is blind to things that are most obvious any ways.
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like the fact that the board is being overrun by battery posts, 99% of which are a rehash of what's been said in the batterygate thread.
 
mcdj said:
like the fact that the board is being overrun by battery posts, 99% of which are a rehash of what's been said in the batterygate thread.
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...and this interferes with your life personally, exactly how?
 
oshia86 said:
Where, in that post, does it refer to anything of the such?
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Again, the obvious... for him to take time out of his day to chastise me, or anyone else for such a post, means he has some form of emotional connection to the topic. Otherwise he'd never have paused long enough to respond and judge my validity of my thread.
 
Doesn't make sense... first, the problem isn't universal; some people experience it and some people don't.

More importantly, I don't remember seeing anything like that when the dual-core ipad2 came out.
 
isoft7 said:
...and this interferes with your life personally, exactly how?
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it interferes with everyone's experience on the forum, because since so many very important people seem to think their special battery thoughts warrant a separate thread, other NON battery topics get pushed to the second, third, and fourth pages, where few venture. people who have new or interesting things to add or need help keep getting shoved out of the way.
 
Also, the 4s does not have a "lesser battery", but actually a higher capacity one. The other components of the phone just might have a little more draw on said battery.

One thing I can say though, is that my 4s battery is lasting as long, or longer than the one in my 3gs.
 
isoft7 said:
1. People who complain about battery life not lasting 8 hours with only light use have a very skewed idea of what "light use" really means.

2. Only if all applications/tasks were written to be multithreaded and done so in a way that utilizes both cores as best as possible... which has never been accomplished.

3. That would seem a bug, I agree with you there.

4. Doesn't work that way.

...if it was an actual software defect with iOS5, all users would experience these same issues, not just some. I have had no problems with mine, because I actually know how to use technology and understand just what to expect.

1. I personally have that issue. Yesterday I did no web browsing anything over 3G. I sent about 10 text messages and was charging my phone by 4 PM since it had turned off from low power. I would charge it to 40% and be back down in less then 2 hours of no use.

2. Yes, but keep in mind everything OS has multiple processes. So a whole core can be dedicated to a app while the system uses the other one. Another thing to note almost all apps are multi-threaded GUI vs background processes don't run under the same thread. If they did your GUI would lag alot.

4. How does it not work that way? Chips can be developed to use less power. If it "didn't work that way" todays computers would take a so much power they couldn't be used compared to computers in the 90s.

Hate to tell you but your not the only person on the forum who works in a technology field.
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isoft7 said:
Again, the obvious... for him to take time out of his day to chastise me, or anyone else for such a post, means he has some form of emotional connection to the topic. Otherwise he'd never have paused long enough to respond and judge my validity of my thread.
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Then what is your emotional connection to the topic?
 
deeddawg said:
Doesn't make sense... first, the problem isn't universal; some people experience it and some people don't.

More importantly, I don't remember seeing anything like that when the dual-core ipad2 came out.
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The iPad 2 does demonstrate shorter battery life than the iPad 1 in real world testing, along with that, the iPad 2 has a slightly larger battery than the iPad 1 did.

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mcdj said:
it interferes with everyone's experience on the forum, because since so many very important people seem to think their special battery thoughts warrant a separate thread, other NON battery topics get pushed to the second, third, and fourth pages, where few venture. people who have new or interesting things to add or need help keep getting shoved out of the way.
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Oh wow... however will they go on? :(

I apologize for ruining everyone's experience.

And it is interesting you are able to speak for EVERYONE that view this forum.

You must be some sort of king, or God. Cool. :cool:

Bottom line, you don't like it, don't post it in, why? It falls to the bottom quicker that way. AMAZING!
 
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