Get what you need right now, and if the next one slaps you in the face, just sell the old one and buy the new one. You'll be out a couple hundred bucks when all is said and done.
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Get what you need right now, and if the next one slaps you in the face, just sell the old one and buy the new one. You'll be out a couple hundred bucks when all is said and done.
No matter what...There is always something bigger,badder,better on the horizon! Which in the tech world is very very quick. It's highly impossible to really stay on top of the tech game...Unless that person just had an endless bank account, and alot of free time.
Honestly...I'm what I would call an early adaptor, so i'm always playing the part of...Hey buy this first and tell everyone you know how it's working out for ya! I mean look at the iphone 5, it came out months ago, and those issues that were present in the 1st batch are still existant today...It's a vicious cycle.
I say buy now, enjoy, and keep it movin!
By no means am I blaming you for saying this, but this particular piece of disinformation seems to be deterring a lot of people from buying computers that they would be perfectly happy with.
The framerate issues in OS X GUI have their origin completely in software, specifically the software used to scale apps to 2880x1800 or 2560x1600 to appear the same as they would at one quarter the resolution. If it were a hardware issue, it would stand to reason that forcing the GeForce chip to kick in would alleviate these issues (scrolling in Safari, window animations, etc), since the GeForce is roughly 10x as powerful as the integrated Intel chip- but there is no difference.
The issue is that in apps that use OpenGL-based languages or other forms of graphical hardware acceleration, the image is first rendered, scaled to quadruple the pixel density, and then re-rendered. As more and more apps become Retina-aware and future released of OS X improve the scaling algorithm this issue will cease to be. Don't believe me? Fire up Windows on Boot Camp at full resolution. Not a hint of jitter, you just can't read without a magnifying glass.
Also- no product is perfect, and no QA measure is perfect. Any change to an established design is as likely to introduce new, unforseen issues as it is to resolve old ones. This is the reason for Intel's 'tick/tock' strategy (alternating yearly changes between die size reduction and microarchitecture refresh)- to minimize the potential complications. Apple's strategy is similar, which is why iPhones have settled in to the X/Xs rhythm, and the MacBook Pro is no different. Think of the Haswell MBP as the "rMBP 1s".
sounds to me that, in your mind you are MORE concern about having the latest and great technology available for what ever reason unknown to me (maybe because you want to be the person in the room that say "well i got a laptop that is newer then yours")
but what you SHOULD concern about is if this current model will get the JOB done (what ever job it may be, producing, playing, ect ect).
and the current model will attack any problems to throw at it and it eat raw and wait for another one.
like people say, haswell is about 10% better in performance, gpu is 50-70% better. these are about as close to a fact you can get.
now you have all the necessary information, you should be able to make your mind relatively quick.
and please set your priority straight, just like everyone has been hinting.
but what you SHOULD concern about is if this current model will get the JOB done (what ever job it may be, producing, playing, ect ect).
and the current model will attack any problems to throw at it and it eat raw and wait for another one.
like people say, haswell is about 10% better in performance, gpu is 50-70% better. these are about as close to a fact you can get.
now you have all the necessary information, you should be able to make your mind relatively quick.
and please set your priority straight, just like everyone has been hinting.
That doesn't make sense. Unless you specifically need the upgrades that the "best" rMBP provides over the base model, you can safe that money and put it towards buying a new one in a few years.
Furthermore, if Apple puts together a revolutionary upgrade for summer 2013, you will looses less money if you sell the base model to buy the new version than you would loose with the high end model.
Waiting is never a good idea btw. There is always a better machine a few month down the road, and thanks to Apple's secrecy it is impossible to know whether it will be a revolution or just a minor spec upgrade.
Commonly known facts about Apple's update schedule:
- It will be incremental 2-3 times before it will be a full redesign.
- The Retina MBP is in its FIRST revision.
- They have not exhausted incremental improvements that are possible in the Retina MBP.
Simple observations about choice:
- When in doubt, don't.
- If you NEED, do it.
- It will be incremental 2-3 times before it will be a full redesign.
- The Retina MBP is in its FIRST revision.
- They have not exhausted incremental improvements that are possible in the Retina MBP.
Simple observations about choice:
- When in doubt, don't.
- If you NEED, do it.
I'd say just go ahead with a base 15" retina, and add extra storage, the money you save could probably buy something like a u2711 on offer.
If you buy a thing simply to have it be the best it can possibly be, then yes. Buying the final revision means it'll be as good as it gets. On the other hand, buying the last revision also means you're buying something that at that exact time, is about to become obsolete.
The final revision is both the best device of its kind, and also the worst device of the time. It'll be the last because even Apple already knows it's not good enough, and have already been working on a new, drastically improved model at the time.
By contrast, the first revision is the worst of its kind, but also the best and most advanced at the time.
The final revision is both the best device of its kind, and also the worst device of the time. It'll be the last because even Apple already knows it's not good enough, and have already been working on a new, drastically improved model at the time.
By contrast, the first revision is the worst of its kind, but also the best and most advanced at the time.
Your points are valid, but you have realize apart the Retina display, this is far from a "beta" product. Apple has been laptop computers for ages, and have been improving on their design. This is simply an evolution of their design. If every design tweak is considered a first-gen product, nobody would want the majority of computers on the market. Everyone tweaks and changes their design in one way or another.
Also remember people seldom go online to complain that their computers are in perfect working order.
As for product improvementsfaster CPUs are great, but if you don't need it, what's the point of delaying a purchase? Faster WiFi is speculation, and if it were true, you'd need new hardware at home including new APs, etc., and do you really expect the hotel you're staying at will have the latest hardware? I doubt; some 5-star hotels are still stuck on G wireless and a few have just moved to N-wireless.
Need It.. Buy It..
My opinion has forever been that it is ALWAYS worth waiting for an Upgrade if you Do Not Really NEED a new computer until then.. Period..
** So, if it is REALLY about needing it to make Money ~
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Need It.. Buy It..
Use It.. Be Happy..
Repeat as Necessary!!
My opinion has forever been that it is ALWAYS worth waiting for an Upgrade if you Do Not Really NEED a new computer until then.. Period..
** So, if it is REALLY about needing it to make Money ~
~Need It.. Buy It..
Use It.. Be Happy..
Repeat as Necessary!!
Unless you can moniterize the difference go for the base or high tier model, Apple`s upgrades are notoriously expensive, and you will be lucky to see 10% on the dollar for the upgrades, on sale. Personally I have a Late 2011 high tier and a mid 2012 base Retina, with about 10Tb of external storage.
The Retina is perfect and gives me no issue, the Late 2011 is an utter pig, suffers memory leaks, lags, stuttering, throttles massively and is in general the worst Mac I have owned to date. It will be shortly replaced by another Retina or a high end industrial PC, as one of my upcoming contracts requires a Windows based system while on site, due to proprietary software security protocols.
The Retina is perfect and gives me no issue, the Late 2011 is an utter pig, suffers memory leaks, lags, stuttering, throttles massively and is in general the worst Mac I have owned to date. It will be shortly replaced by another Retina or a high end industrial PC, as one of my upcoming contracts requires a Windows based system while on site, due to proprietary software security protocols.
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All excellent points. Beta was the wrong description. Shame on me. But the Retina is a new configuration, with the display being a pretty big deal, I think. So I decided in June to wait for the next one. Now that we are entering March, I must wait it out. Even though my 2009 MBP 15" is giving me problems. Probably just a dying HD, but after playing with the Retina in the store about 50 times, I'm juiced for that monster machine
I understand your sentiments. No need to feel ashamed.
It's just my opinion really, but I feel the rMBP is an excellent computer as is. It's sufficiently fast for all the tasks I do.
Something that I can think of that's really bad to buy a first-year run of is car But that's a whole another discussion.
I am waiting until June/July this year to take the plunge and purchase my own. I like having the latest, so I am willing to wait 4 or 5 more months for a newer processor and hopefully beefed up graphics cards and SSD storage. Even if the changes to the new me aren't too significant, I will still be glad that I waited.