One Reason Big reason T-Mobile Customers should upgrade to 6s or 6s Plus

[james-jones]

Band 12 is not mentioned in the title of the thread. And the OP says he must be on band 12, which is actually more a question, but he was miss-informed. Band 12 is not capable of these speeds. Either way. It was a good thread to post up some speed tests from T-Mobile.

I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said. If not the band 12 support mentioned by the OP, what possible "one reason big reason" specific to T-Mobile would he be referring to?

Posting speed tests irrelevant to the thread is off-topic. You already posted to the "Post your 6S LTE Speeds and Location" thread, anyway: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/post-your-6s-lte-speeds-loc.1922340/

 

[JohnApples]

Lol @ the people saying that 20-100 mbps is "slow". I envy that "slowness" so much. Here on Sprint, my average is around 1.5mbps

T-Mobile is looking pretty good though. If this band 12 really DOES extend coverage like their new map claims, I think it'll be a no-brainer for me to switch.

 

[2298754]

I hope you're lucky enough to be in a band 12 license area without an active channel 51 broadcaster so you can get a signal that goes through walls, even if it is only 5x5

Too bad the theroetical maximum for 5MHz downlink is only 37mbps.

Yup. It's a combination of B12 and B4 with CA. Not just B12.

 

[2298754]

There is no red circle around Boston - no channel 51 restrictions there.

Boston has band 12 live in places apparently - https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/3j3zde/band_12_boston/

None of those spotted areas are actually in Boston proper.

The restriction zone got lifted very recently in this area.

 

[2298754]

I'd mostly just love to get better lte reception, since I drop down to 4g rather frequently. Here's to hoping.

Good ole TMobile. Always talking big and falling short IRL.

We should be seeing zero HSPA drop down in the area Boston area.

 

[CEmajr]

Not getting into "mine is bigger than yours" debates. T-Mobile is cancelling "unlimited" accounts now for tethering, too - good luck!

That's only data abusers who circumvent the rule of unlimited "phone" data and tether against the TOS. No one has gotten their account cancelled or been warned for using their monthly allotted data for tethering.

 

[dugbug]

Can you try this?

Go to Phone, then Keypad, then dial *3001#12345#*.

Go to Serving Cell Info then report Freq Band Indicator. Most T-Mobile subscribers will see 4 in cities and suburbs (1700 MHz uplink, 2100 MHz downlink) and 2 in rural areas (1900 MHz).

so this always says 12 for me, and I get dl rates (depending on time of day) from 20Mbps down to 2Mbps. 700MHz band 12 cannot do 20 right? is the tool confused or are they pulling a mimo deal or what? Speak to me cell gurus.

 

[james-jones]

That's only data abusers who circumvent the rule of unlimited "phone" data and tether against the TOS. No one has gotten their account cancelled or been warned for using their monthly allotted data for tethering.

They only sell plans up to 13GB for tethering.

 

[james-jones]

so this always says 12 for me, and I get dl rates (depending on time of day) from 20Mbps down to 2Mbps. 700MHz band 12 cannot do 20 right? is the tool confused or are they pulling a mimo deal or what? Speak to me cell gurus.

700MHz 5x5 can do 20mbps, but not much more. (37mbps theoretical max including overhead)

You can check MIMO by looking under Serving Cell Info->Num Tx Antennas (if it is even populated)

 

[dugbug]

Not getting into "mine is bigger than yours" debates. T-Mobile is cancelling "unlimited" accounts now for tethering, too - good luck!

obviously they are only cancelling those that hacked the tether throttle beyond tethering limits.

Also, I don't see verizon offering unlimited plans, so why chest bump about something not even offered? That is what makes tmobile unusually attractive. this is what happens when you go over your verizon limits:

No matter what size data plan you have, all overages are billed at $15 for each 1 GB, rounded up. For example, if you use 250 MB over your allowance, you'll be charged $15.

With tmo, they just throttle you down to 4G. So you can pick up a 10GB plan dirt cheap and likely never get throttled but CERTAINLY never get charged that one time you accidentally watched netflix over LTE rather than the hotel wifi

 

[dugbug]

700MHz 5x5 can do 20mbps, but not much more. (37mbps theoretical max including overhead)

You can check MIMO by looking under Serving Cell Info->Num Tx Antennas (if it is even populated)

ahhh will do thanks

 

[james-jones]

obviously they are only cancelling those that hacked the tether throttle beyond tethering limits.

Also, I don't see verizon offering unlimited plans, so why chest bump about something not even offered? That is what makes tmobile unusually attractive. this is what happens when you go over your verizon limits:

No matter what size data plan you have, all overages are billed at $15 for each 1 GB, rounded up. For example, if you use 250 MB over your allowance, you'll be charged $15.

With tmo, they just throttle you down to 4G. So you can pick up a 10GB plan dirt cheap and likely never get throttled but CERTAINLY never get charged that one time you accidentally watched netflix over LTE rather than the hotel wifi

T-Mobile is throttling everyone at 21GB (i.e. a single show on Netflix per day) partially because because they can't easily tell who is tethering. Verizon was the only carrier to ever offer unlimited LTE tethering, and still does if you kept the plan. No worries about overages (or coverage.) I sincerely hope T-Mobile can offer something that competes with Verizon's legacy offering one day, that's all.

But that is irrelevant - this discussion is about band 12 and expanded coverage, not tethering.

 

[boshii]

T-Mobile is throttling everyone at 21GB (i.e. a single show on Netflix per day) partially because because they can't easily tell who is tethering.

This is incorrect.

 

[james-jones]

This is incorrect.

History (and a leaked memo) disagree.

• Memo from long before the 21gb throttle was applied: http://arstechnica.com/business/201...ic-and-excessive-tethering-leaked-memo-shows/
• At the same time they announced no throttling would take place for customers not using P2P/tethering: http://recode.net/2014/08/14/t-mobile-says-not-planning-to-throttle-unlimited-customers/
• They tried the "Misuse Throttle SOCs" on accounts identified, but following the usual cat and mouse game app and tweak developers better hid data use: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/general/unlimited-wifi-tethering-t2914057
• When it was clear that policy was ineffective, the hidden throttling started: https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/342wr7/tmobile_is_now_throttling_unlimited_data/
• The CEO tried to mislead (read: lied) about their throttling and new cap: https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/39hot8/john_legere_on_throttling/
• And finally they admitted to the new, universal throttling cap: http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...omers-who-hit-21-gb-ok-under-net-n/2015-06-25

I still hope the band 12 deployment makes a better carrier out of T-Mobile, and better competitors out of the other carriers.

 

[boshii]

History (and a leaked memo) disagree.

• Memo from long before the 21gb throttle was applied: http://arstechnica.com/business/201...ic-and-excessive-tethering-leaked-memo-shows/
• At the same time they announced no throttling would take place for customers not using P2P/tethering: http://recode.net/2014/08/14/t-mobile-says-not-planning-to-throttle-unlimited-customers/
• They tried the "Misuse Throttle SOCs" on accounts identified, but following the usual cat and mouse game app and tweak developers better hid data use: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/general/unlimited-wifi-tethering-t2914057
• When it was clear that policy was ineffective, the hidden throttling started: https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/342wr7/tmobile_is_now_throttling_unlimited_data/
• The CEO tried to mislead (read: lied) about their throttling and new cap: https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/39hot8/john_legere_on_throttling/
• And finally they admitted to the new, universal throttling cap: http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...omers-who-hit-21-gb-ok-under-net-n/2015-06-25

I still hope the band 12 deployment makes a better carrier out of T-Mobile, and better competitors out of the other carriers.

I stream with my slingbox 5 days a week and have never been throttled. I easily average over 120GB a month.

 

[james-jones]

I stream with my slingbox 5 days a week and have never been throttled. I easily average over 120GB a month.

Just wait until more of those $5/mo iPhones try to join the streaming party in your neighborhood At least there will be 5x5 more capacity with band 12 - the Atlanta exclusion zone ended in July.

 

[boshii]

Just wait until more of those $5/mo iPhones try to join the streaming party in your neighborhood At least there will be 5x5 more capacity with band 12 - the Atlanta exclusion zone ended in July.

Just saying your statement was incorrect.

You emphasized everyone like you knew it was true.

 

[james-jones]

Just saying your statement was incorrect.

You emphasized everyone like you knew it was true.

Everyone going over 21gb on T-Mobile does get throttled if they are on a congested cell. Not getting throttled in one location doesn't demonstrate anything.

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...omers-who-hit-21-gb-ok-under-net-n/2015-06-25

 

[dugbug]

Everyone going over 21gb on T-Mobile does get throttled if they are on a congested cell. Not getting throttled in one location doesn't demonstrate anything.

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...omers-who-hit-21-gb-ok-under-net-n/2015-06-25

an emphasized EVERYONE. Followed by a silent IF. Its the IF part. Even AT&T throttles unlimited based on this congestion claim (interestingly also at 21gb).

 

[james-jones]

an emphasized EVERYONE. Followed by a silent IF. Its the IF part. Even AT&T throttles unlimited based on this congestion claim (interestingly also at 21gb).

And? Everyone on T-Mobile unlimited plans gets throttled. You do too, just not all the time.

 

[dugbug]

And? Everyone on T-Mobile unlimited plans gets throttled. You do too, just not all the time.

They get deprioritized on unlimited lte. It's outcome is situational

 

[james-jones]

They get deprioritized on unlimited lte. It's outcome is situational

Exactly - Everyone on an "unlimited" plan gets throttled on T-Mobile. Hopefully your cell doesn't get congested.

 

[dugbug]

Exactly - Everyone on an "unlimited" plan gets throttled on T-Mobile.

You may not based on congestion.

 

[lordofthereef]

Good ole TMobile. Always talking big and falling short IRL.

We should be seeing zero HSPA drop down in the area Boston area.

To be fair I am now in north reading. I haven't seen much drop off in Boston proper (though North Reading isn't exactly what you'd call far lol)

ATT was great (I think you've seen my oraise) in terms of service. I'm just peeved that they're flip flopping on their unlimited plans and they're unwilling to budge with mine; we had been with them since the original iPhone. If necessity demands it we will migrate back.