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I had a pill binge during my first year of college.. ecstasy was great. Went to see quite a few DJ's (Utah Saints were awesome), had a great time. Euphoric and just dancing my heart out. Pill chat was always good craic too, plenty bizzare conversations. Always chewed gum though. Needed a spliff to nurse the comedown later too..

Human Traffic is a great film to watch if you want to know about ecstasy.
 
X - Never tried it and never will.

Enough with alcohol and my two other drugs of choice... coke and occasionally weed.

Why the hell take a drug like coke when MDMA is far less harmful, or do you just feel uncomfortable with the concept of being turned into a friendly loving happy person for a few hours?

I must admit I find all such things vile under the influence, the flavour of sweets is just overpoweringly strong and I never jaw clench much anyway, plenty of people I know do though.

Oh and people jaw clench at the peak of effects, not when coming down though it gets worse the more you re-dose. LSD does not share this effect, though people may eat sweets anyway as tasting in colour is an interesting experience :D

Edit: just realised how dodgy I must look with a pill in my avatar! I had it up for an iTablet game and never bothered to change it >_<
 
Umm...it's called being on ecstasy. Tweakers always like to suck on lollipops for some reason.

Don't ask how I know.

From what I understand, there are dealers out there who make their own hard candy with a special ingredient - some drug of choice. I don't know if Ex is water soluble or what.
 
Don't ask how I know.

From what I understand, there are dealers out there who make their own hard candy with a special ingredient - some drug of choice. I don't know if Ex is water soluble or what.

it's water soluble but it tastes like arse, why the hell would a dealer bother putting it in a sweet when they could just sell it :rolleyes:
 
Why the hell take a drug like coke when MDMA is far less harmful, or do you just feel uncomfortable with the concept of being turned into a friendly loving happy person for a few hours?

That's the way I party, that's why the hell. ;)
I only do it on Friday and Saturday nights. I'm cool with the "harm" it does to me (so far) because I don't do tons of it. As long as I'm in control, it's all good...
 
Thanks. I tried X twice years ago and hated it. I couldn't remember what the reason was.

I have a friend who has been pushing me to try X for the past couple of years. I keep refusing...based on the what people look and act like on X that I see I doubt I will ever try it.

Agree on the teeth grinding thing. People I see on X like to chew gum, etc.
 
I have a friend who has been pushing me to try X for the past couple of years. I keep refusing...based on the what people look and act like on X that I see I doubt I will ever try it.

Agree on the teeth grinding thing. People I see on X like to chew gum, etc.

I hated it. It made me angry, not happy. I mean, four hours going by like four minutes? Why does anyone think that's cool? Got dumped by a boyfriend over it too. He liked to do it, and I didn't. I never judged him for taking it. He just didn't like the fact that I didn't like it.

Why the hell take a drug like coke when MDMA is far less harmful, or do you just feel uncomfortable with the concept of being turned into a friendly loving happy person for a few hours?

No one should need a drug to be any of those things.
 
No one should need a drug to be any of those things.

They compared the euphoric levels of someone who was flying on ecstasy and that of a Buddha meditating. The Buddha had an exceptional level of euphoria.

Shows that you can be that happy by natural means.
 
I am not one for harder drug usage without a doctor, however I don't believe they should be banned (but this second point addresses the useless Reagan war on drugs).

MDMA, or similar drugs (stronger than aspirin or nyquil) can be very useful for treating people with panic attacks or agoraphobia. Valium family drugs or Seroqil can help anxiety, but use of those drugs recreationally can be very dangerous.

As for lollipops being helpful, they are not something I go to, but anti-anxiety drugs do give me some serious Jonesing for sugar. I don't know if this is related or not.
 
I am not one for harder drug usage without a doctor, however I don't believe they should be banned (but this second point addresses the useless Reagan war on drugs).

MDMA, or similar drugs (stronger than aspirin or nyquil) can be very useful for treating people with panic attacks or agoraphobia. Valium family drugs or Seroqil can help anxiety, but use of those drugs recreationally can be very dangerous.

As for lollipops being helpful, they are not something I go to, but anti-anxiety drugs do give me some serious Jonesing for sugar. I don't know if this is related or not.

I think all drugs should be legal. But that doesn't mean I think everyone should necessarily do them. Education works better than prohibition.
 
I think all drugs should be legal. But that doesn't mean I think everyone should necessarily do them. Education works better than prohibition.

Being a Democrat with left libertarian social views, I also think all drugs should be legal.

But:

I would be terrified if any kids (or drug addicts) got their hands on my anti-panic attack medication. For me, I can stay alert and function better. But give the same class of drug, whether it's MDMA, Valium, or similar mood altering drug and then you have somebody either getting into a car crash, falling and hitting their head, or having to get their stomach pumped.

I think it's mainly anti-anxiety medications which were partly responsible for the deaths or hospitalizations of Rush Limbaugh, Britney Murphy, Anna Nicole Smith, Heath Ledger, and many others. Add alcohol or pain killers, which may or may not have been the case, and then you have a potentially dangerous drug cocktail. Two rather "safe" drugs added together can have a dangerous, even lethal effect.

That same dosage for somebody who suffers from anxiety and, let's say, serious pain from an injury, is very safe under a doctor's orders. The patient has time to ramp up to that dosage. But give it to a recreational drug user on the street and they can go into a coma or get a heart attack. But even people who are prescribed different drugs have been known to abuse them.

But what is ironic is that many people who get "strong" drugs legally have the big trouble of staying on them, thus the daily MTWThFSaSn pill boxes. ;)
 
Being a Democrat with left libertarian social views, I also think all drugs should be legal.

But:

I would be terrified if any kids (or drug addicts) got their hands on my anti-panic attack medication. For me, I can stay alert and function better. But give the same class of drug, whether it's MDMA, Valium, or similar mood altering drug and then you have somebody either getting into a car crash, falling and hitting their head, or having to get their stomach pumped.

I think it's mainly anti-anxiety medications which were partly responsible for the deaths or hospitalizations of Rush Limbaugh, Britney Murphy, Anna Nicole Smith, Heath Ledger, and many others. Add alcohol or pain killers, which may or may not have been the case, and then you have a potentially dangerous drug cocktail. Two rather "safe" drugs added together can have a dangerous, even lethal effect.

That same dosage for somebody who suffers from anxiety and, let's say, serious pain from an injury, is very safe under a doctor's orders. The patient has time to ramp up to that dosage. But give it to a recreational drug user on the street and they can go into a coma or get a heart attack. But even people who are prescribed different drugs have been known to abuse them.

But what is ironic is that many people who get "strong" drugs legally have the big trouble of staying on them, thus the daily MTWThFSaSn pill boxes. ;)

I never said drugs shouldn't be controlled, just legal. ;)
 
I never said drugs shouldn't be controlled, just legal. ;)

It's such a fine line. I like some control but I don't want to take a purist libertarian or ultra liberal view saying that any drug should be available to anybody publicly without regulation.

When we got our first medical marijuana clinic, as made legal in my state, some local cities tried to illegalize them with city codes, as is allowed by our state's Constitution. The state capitol didn't even want to go there with a ten foot pole so it became a city to city battleground.

But now several months later, and now people on both sides don't care and the the medical marijuana businesses are up and running near the Starbucks and Walgreens without any fanfare.

The last attempt by the anti-marijuana crowd when they realized they were not getting very far was to reduce the size of a medical marijuana operation's sign on the street. When I passed by the store, they got a bigger sign, the same size as any other business on the street.

A few years ago, city by city were fighting over the sale of hemp clothing even though the state legalized these products. Today, if you have a hemp product, liberals and conservatives alike applaud you for the doing the environmental thing. :)
 
re: lollipops- a lot of mmj dispensaries make canna candies these days, a lot like the classic pot brownie only the actives are mixed into hard candy instead of brownie mix. I've never heard of drugs like mdma or whatever being cooked into candy but lollipops that can get you high isn't entirely a myth. Not really part of party-club culture though.

I'm also in the x-pills are nasty camp. In the past when I've tried it it has tended to increase my level of aggression beyond what I consider acceptable. Valium has a similar effect on me but with x it is amplified.
 
Actually Ive seen this in other people. The "friend" I mentioned in a previous post is a pretty heavy ecstasy user, and in the past has gone on X binges that last several days at a time. Ive caught up with him after hes had these, and hes in a much more agressive mood than he normally is. Often times having quite severe fights with his girlfriend who has consumed as much X as he has.


Having done alot of experimenting around in my youth, Im glad to say there is one drug I havent taken. I'll stick with my weed, although even that is starting to make me feel somewhat retarded lately.


I'm also in the x-pills are nasty camp. In the past when I've tried it it has tended to increase my level of aggression beyond what I consider acceptable. Valium has a similar effect on me but with x it is amplified.
 
Actually Ive seen this in other people. The "friend" I mentioned in a previous post is a pretty heavy ecstasy user, and in the past has gone on X binges that last several days at a time. Ive caught up with him after hes had these, and hes in a much more agressive mood than he normally is. Often times having quite severe fights with his girlfriend who has consumed as much X as he has.


Having done alot of experimenting around in my youth, Im glad to say there is one drug I havent taken. I'll stick with my weed, although even that is starting to make me feel somewhat retarded lately.

Done plenty myself, X being the most disappointing. It also did make me aggressive.
 
I hated it. It made me angry, not happy. I mean, four hours going by like four minutes? Why does anyone think that's cool? Got dumped by a boyfriend over it too. He liked to do it, and I didn't. I never judged him for taking it. He just didn't like the fact that I didn't like it.



No one should need a drug to be any of those things.

When was "need" ever mentioned? I merely questioned why one would take a hard stimulant that tends to turn people into obnoxious idiots as opposed to something euphoric that causes people to open up and feel love? It just struck me as odd to be so adamantly against trying MDMA when cocaine is undoubtably a far more harmful drug.

I've personally known people to lose their mind, and even die under the influence of stimulants cocaine is pretty universally accepted as one of the most harmful drugs about behind meth and heroin.

I get you may be jaded by your abnormal reaction to the substance

as for people finding time flies by I wouldn't be surprised if that's a result of the tendency for it to be cut with methamphetamine in the states, time flies when you're tweaking.

I'm also in the x-pills are nasty camp. In the past when I've tried it it has tended to increase my level of aggression beyond what I consider acceptable. Valium has a similar effect on me but with x it is amplified.

See my comment regarding meth.

Truth be told I wouldn't advise anyone to take "ecstasy" unless you could test beyond reasonable doubt that you know exactly what is in it.

It's ridiculous that testing centres are illegal both here and in the states, over in the netherlands anyone can just send a sample to a lab and get a detailed analysis done cheaply, how does not allowing this reduce harm exactly?
 
I've personally known people to lose their mind, and even die under the influence of stimulants cocaine is pretty universally accepted as one of the most harmful drugs about behind meth and heroin.

I agree on cocaine being one of the most harmful drugs.

From my generation, the killer drug which caused the most problem was cocaine. Not only did it kill people, but people lost their cars, houses, and families. I never saw anything as bad with the other popular hard drug of the time, heroin. Not to say that heroin is good or bad, but I never met a long term coke addict who lived to tell about it. There are plenty of heroin users, very long term, who are either alive, or had a long look at themselves and got off of it. I worked as a social worker with heroin addicts. The coke people didn't live long enough to even get help from us or were in jail.

About meth, I have to say that is after my generation but it seems to be pretty bad and could be the next cocaine.

A physician friend of mine said humanity saw three plagues (the flood, the black death, and cocaine). This is put into context when we are talking about worldwide scale.

It isn't a coincidence that somebody like Pablo Escobar became so powerful that his cartel was considered an enemy military threat to the United States. (Inside Delta Force - CSM Eric Haney).
 
I agree on cocaine being one of the most harmful drugs.

From my generation, the killer drug which caused the most problem was cocaine. Not only did it kill people, but people lost their cars, houses, and families. I never saw anything as bad with the other popular hard drug of the time, heroin. Not to say that heroin is good or bad, but I never met a long term coke addict who lived to tell about it. There are plenty of heroin users, very long term, who are either alive, or had a long look at themselves and got off of it. I worked as a social worker with heroin addicts. The coke people didn't live long enough to even get help from us or were in jail.

About meth, I have to say that is after my generation but it seems to be pretty bad and could be the next cocaine.

A physician friend of mine said humanity saw three plagues (the flood, the black death, and cocaine). This is put into context when we are talking about worldwide scale.

It isn't a coincidence that somebody like Pablo Escobar became so powerful that his cartel was considered an enemy military threat to the United States. (Inside Delta Force - CSM Eric Haney).

Meth is the scariest drug I've ever heard of. It is not something to mess with. I've watched it literally destroy people in less than a year.

@Mord- my comment was simply that people should not have to take a drug to be open and loving, nothing more. It had nothing to do with anything else.
 
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