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I've had both iPhones and Android phones. For several years I owned both at the same time. Android as my personal and iPhone for work.

I've owned two OnePlus phones a 6T and a 7 Pro. I've had the 7 Pro for almost a year now.
For those that think the build quality of the OnePlus phones is sub par, you are mistaken.
For those that think Android is junk, again you are mistaken.
Android with the correct skin is on par with iOS and in some ways better due to the opportunity of customization.
Both are Unix/Linux beneath the skin just a gui on top. Android is Linux and iOS is BSD.

I like OnePlus because I can unlock the bootloader and do what I want.
I own the phone. With iOS you never really "own" the phone.
Apple decides when your phone is obsolete. Once they stop offering any update, the phone is done.

I also use iOS for my work and Android for personal,like them both but android is more OPEN than ios by a longshot!

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I've had both iPhones and Android phones. For several years I owned both at the same time. Android as my personal and iPhone for work.

I've owned two OnePlus phones a 6T and a 7 Pro. I've had the 7 Pro for almost a year now.
For those that think the build quality of the OnePlus phones is sub par, you are mistaken.
For those that think Android is junk, again you are mistaken.
Android with the correct skin is on par with iOS and in some ways better due to the opportunity of customization.
Both are Unix/Linux beneath the skin just a gui on top. Android is Linux and iOS is BSD.

I like OnePlus because I can unlock the bootloader and do what I want.
I own the phone. With iOS you never really "own" the phone.
Apple decides when your phone is obsolete. Once they stop offering any update, the phone is done.

As a developer and person who used to own Android phones and tinker with them a lot, I genuinely can't imagine what you want to do with your phone that you can't do on an iPhone.
Sure, theoretically you can do loads of stuff, but from a practical standpoint I could never think of a real feature that I wanted that wasn't already available on iOS.

As for obsolescence, an iPhone usually gets around 5 years of software support, which is personally the max amount of time that I'd keep a phone anyway. Are you really going to keep your Android phone for a period of time longer than 5 years and then port the new Android OS yourself (if no one does it over at xda-developers)?
 
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I absolutely hate those longer but not wider phones. My work phone from Samsung is the same and ugh

As a iPhone 6+ owner, when I went to see 11, 11 Pro, and 11 Pro Max, the difference in width felt more noticeable than the length. The other phones had longer screens, but the width stuck out to me. It felt squished in. Only the 11 Pro Max matched the width of 6+. The more you can fit on a single line (obviously to a point), the better I find it is for prolonged reading.

I hope they release a SE+ with similar size to 8+ and its width.
 
Can you elaborate on that?

Ofc I can, iOS captive for WiFi hotspots is takiiiiiing so much time to connect to hotspots vs Android "crap". Sometimes I was left speechless that my gf with her "crappy" phone was able to use Internet, while I was waiting my iPhone X to connect.
 
As a developer and person who used to own Android phones and tinker with them a lot, I genuinely can't imagine what you want to do with your phone that you can't do on an iPhone.
Sure, theoretically you can do loads of stuff, but from a practical standpoint I could never think of a real feature that I wanted that wasn't already available on iOS.

As for obsolescence, an iPhone usually gets around 5 years of software support, which is personally the max ammount of time that I'd keep a phone anyway. Are you really going to keep your Android phone for a period of time longer than 5 years and then port the new Android OS yourself (if no one does it over at xda-developers)?

I think it’s hilarious when Android supporters claim that iPhones stop working if they don’t get a software update. First of all, it‘s plainly false. Second, they are completely ignoring the fact that iOS supports much older phones than comparable Android releases. In addition, because Android updates require manufacturer support, many Android phones cannot be updated when new versions of Android are released.
 
Ofc I can, iOS captive for WiFi hotspots is takiiiiiing so much time to connect to hotspots vs Android "crap". Sometimes I was left speechless that my gf with her "crappy" phone was able to use Internet, while I was waiting my iPhone X to connect.
Ah yes. I’ve had that too. I’m wondering if it’s by design.
I remember I think Apple devices having troubles connecting to WEP networks a ways back.
Strangely enough my Apple devices always show less wireless networks than other devices.
 
I've had both iPhones and Android phones. For several years I owned both at the same time. Android as my personal and iPhone for work.

I've owned two OnePlus phones a 6T and a 7 Pro. I've had the 7 Pro for almost a year now.
For those that think the build quality of the OnePlus phones is sub par, you are mistaken.
For those that think Android is junk, again you are mistaken.
Android with the correct skin is on par with iOS and in some ways better due to the opportunity of customization.
Both are Unix/Linux beneath the skin just a gui on top. Android is Linux and iOS is BSD.

I like OnePlus because I can unlock the bootloader and do what I want.
I own the phone. With iOS you never really "own" the phone.
Apple decides when your phone is obsolete. Once they stop offering any update, the phone is done.

I have an iPhone 5 that still functions. Not sure what 'done' means to you. I'm no Apple fanboy, but when a very old iPhone 5 still runs smooth and has pretty much full iOS functionality on it, there's something to be said for that.

Sure you can't load custom ROMs onto an iPhone, but you don't need to. That's sort of the point. And 95% of Android users wouldn't know how to do it anyhow, 1% brick their devices trying, 3% do it once or twice and move on and the remaining 1% push to extend the life of their old Android slabs. I've been there - loading different ROMs onto old devices. I've had many Android phones over the last 5 years including Essential etc. All sorts of fun.

But my iPhone XS Max is just 'there'. It always works, I can mirror the screen and control it on my Matebook X Pro thanks to Dell Mobile Connect now, and I have zero concern about Apple declaring it EOL. Even if I have it when that happens, I know it will continue to function for years and years and operate smooth as silk, just like my 5 still does.
 
1. A13 chip

2. 4-5 years ios update

i will go with the iphone, but apple
should do the hole punch camera thing
in the future
 
From a purely aesthetic view, I think the OnePlus looks cheap. Different size bezels and not the same build quality as the iPhone 11. The iPhone just looks more premium.

The iPhone's only negative is the thick bezels. That hopefully will be rectified once the iPhone 12 finally arrives with slimmer bezels and a smaller notch.
Funny, you noticed different size bezels and did not notice a notch which is much more ugly.
 
I've had both iPhones and Android phones. For several years I owned both at the same time. Android as my personal and iPhone for work.

I've owned two OnePlus phones a 6T and a 7 Pro. I've had the 7 Pro for almost a year now.
For those that think the build quality of the OnePlus phones is sub par, you are mistaken.
For those that think Android is junk, again you are mistaken.
Android with the correct skin is on par with iOS and in some ways better due to the opportunity of customization.
Both are Unix/Linux beneath the skin just a gui on top. Android is Linux and iOS is BSD.

I like OnePlus because I can unlock the bootloader and do what I want.
I own the phone. With iOS you never really "own" the phone.
Apple decides when your phone is obsolete. Once they stop offering any update, the phone is done.

thats the problem with samsung and
google, they try to make their phones like full blown computers, but we dont need that. certain things we do on phones and other things we do on laptops and computers. so samsung in trying to make their phones like full blown computers make it more messy and complicated
 
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That is because beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You might find the notch ugly but others have different opinions. :rolleyes:
Sure. But people in general have consistent attitudes. There are people who do not care about the notch. That's fine. But the only reason people who care about the different width of the bezels would not notice the notch is a brand bias.
 
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Sure. But people in general have consistent attitudes.
And you or I don’t know what the masses consistent attitudes are, even if this is a truism and not a strawman.
There are people who do not care about the notch. That's fine. But the only reason people who care about the different width of the bezels would not notice the notch is a brand bias.
And conversely the People who find the notch ugly but accept bezels and pop up flash have brand bias as well. (if the original statement is a truism and not another strawman)
 
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Hmmmmm....
Microsoft, decided not to bring Windows, ostensibly “the name” in operating systems, to mobile, nor develop their own (despite the fact that they’re certainly more capable than OnePlus)

They actually did for quite a few years. The last version, Windows 10 mobile, was a great OS, but unfortunately they were too late to the game and couldn’t get the developer support they needed to attract more users to make continued development worth the time, effort, and cost.
Apps were either poor quality or non existent. This drove most users away, and in the end they gave up, which was a huge shame.
I had a Lumia 950XL towards the end of the OS life. It was a really nice phone, and ran great with the W10M, but the lack of first party, and quality apps overall, saw me head back to iOS.
 
Was reading One Plus does security updates every other month instead of monthly. Seems like something they need to fix.
 
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I absolutely hate those longer but not wider phones. My work phone from Samsung is the same and ugh

Really? Why?

I don't have one, but it seems to me it would be more comfortable to hold. Especially for smaller hands.
 
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Nope.
They can give me cash for the phone, but I still wouldn't touch that because of the owners of the company...
You mean the Chinese conglomerate BBK (2nd largest phone maker in the world or something like that) that for years pretend "OnePlus" was a startup fronted by one of their shill employees pretending to be a hip "founder"? It just so happens the fake news tech media happily ate that all up and the OnePlus astroturfing shills swallowed it hook line and sinker (although I don't think they have any shills left, at least any not disgruntled for being taken for a ride)
 
I've had both iPhones and Android phones. For several years I owned both at the same time. Android as my personal and iPhone for work.

I've owned two OnePlus phones a 6T and a 7 Pro. I've had the 7 Pro for almost a year now.
For those that think the build quality of the OnePlus phones is sub par, you are mistaken.
For those that think Android is junk, again you are mistaken.
Android with the correct skin is on par with iOS and in some ways better due to the opportunity of customization.
Both are Unix/Linux beneath the skin just a gui on top. Android is Linux and iOS is BSD.

I like OnePlus because I can unlock the bootloader and do what I want.
I own the phone. With iOS you never really "own" the phone.
Apple decides when your phone is obsolete. Once they stop offering any update, the phone is done.
Thanks for that. As a likely future Android user, what skin do you recommend?
 
You mean the Chinese conglomerate BBK (2nd largest phone maker in the world or something like that) that for years pretend "OnePlus" was a startup fronted by one of their shill employees pretending to be a hip "founder"? It just so happens the fake news tech media happily ate that all up and the OnePlus astroturfing shills swallowed it hook line and sinker (although I don't think they have any shills left, at least any not disgruntled for being taken for a ride)
Without the punctuation at the right places, the run-on sentence makes little to no sense. I simply gave up following on after the question mark, since you are making it hard to comprehend what you are trying to say.
 
It's 2020 and there are still people spouting this fanboy rubbish?
Yeah. Who uses Android in 2020 except for techies, people who can't afford iPhones, and people with specific needs like frequent travel? Tech has progressed.
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I've had both iPhones and Android phones. For several years I owned both at the same time. Android as my personal and iPhone for work.

I've owned two OnePlus phones a 6T and a 7 Pro. I've had the 7 Pro for almost a year now.
For those that think the build quality of the OnePlus phones is sub par, you are mistaken.
For those that think Android is junk, again you are mistaken.
Android with the correct skin is on par with iOS and in some ways better due to the opportunity of customization.
Both are Unix/Linux beneath the skin just a gui on top. Android is Linux and iOS is BSD.

I like OnePlus because I can unlock the bootloader and do what I want.
I own the phone. With iOS you never really "own" the phone.
Apple decides when your phone is obsolete. Once they stop offering any update, the phone is done.
You're skipping a whole lot of OS design if you say iOS is BSD with a GUI. I respect wanting to own the phone's destiny, but do you really use that power? I imagine the most important part is keeping the phone up-to-date after the manufacturer has stopped.
 
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Why is there a "vs." in this article? It should have been an "and".

The comments are better.
FWIW, One Plus is still a better "deal" than the other premium flagships, but now we get to truly say "other premium flagships" since the value proposition that one was, is no longer in effect. The 7 and 8 series halfway and fully closed the gap in features and moved upwards in price as a result. Even with the mid-range, fastest guts versions offered with the 8, non pro, the deal doesn't approach what we saw with the 7t.

Maybe the 8t will surprise, but at $700/900 the 8s are $100 and $2-300 under what they compete against.

The pro is the fastest Android made currently. It's got the best screen and best skin on Android. People who understand tech probably like Android and root-friendly nature of OP better than the walled garden of Apple regardless of price, but everyone knows you pay more for Apple than an open OS marketplace would dictate, so there's not much sense comparing the top spec phones at all.

One plus will win that battle.

The SE vs the vanilla 8 or 7t? That'll be interesting.
 
1. A13 chip

2. 4-5 years ios update

i will go with the iphone, but apple
should do the hole punch camera thing
in the future

what advantage do you think that the ‘hole punch’ camera offers? Do you think consumers honestly care about the ‘form factor’ of a camera? I would say the results are what matters versus the actual design.
 
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