Online security and privacy is important.

Discussion in 'Apple, Inc and Tech Industry' started by akash.nu, Oct 30, 2018.

  1. akash.nu macrumors 604

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    I am not sure if this has been shared here. At least, I have not come across it. Here is an awesome video from Rene Ritchie and being a privacy and online security advocate I could not help but share.

     
  2. Newtons Apple, Oct 30, 2018
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    Anything Google offers is only to collect information to sell to the highest bidder. Even your Gmail can be perused through and used by Google. I use Google as little as possible.
     
  3. adamgbiggs macrumors 6502

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    So the question is, can we give up Google all together? If so, how as it’s services etc are huge.

    Adam.
     
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    Google's Contacts and Calendars is the one thing that made my PowerBook G4 still relevant in 2012 when I got the iPhone 5.

    iCloud will not sync (or work at all) with PowerPC Macs. Consequently, because I never was able to use iCloud, I had to turn to other services. I already had a Gmail address at the time so I went with Google.

    I could have gone with Yahoo since I've had a Yahoo account since 1999 but I didn't.

    I don't use Gmail for much of anything though and I've given Google the minimum information I can.

    But I do use their services. Contacts and Calendars work with my old Macs. They work with PCs, they work on the iPhone and the iPad and they work on Android devices. I can push contacts from my iPhone to Entourage 2004/2008 and Outlook and back because of that. Back in 2012, iCloud contacts were one way. On the phone.

    Google Music stores my entire iTunes library in a cloud. Over 10GB of music with my iTunes playlists accessible on any device including my iPhones and iPad. I can stream it anywhere and the only place it physically exists is on one PC at home running iTunes. Any changes made there reflect up and propagate to all my devices.

    No iTunes match here.

    Google Voice gives me flexibility in calls and texts.

    I do not use Google Drive although I have it. I've been using Dropbox since 2011 so that's why.

    Yeah, Google is evil, but they give me the one thing Apple will not and that's the ability to use my old Macs with newer devices and keep everything synced.
     
  5. Newtons Apple macrumors Core

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    I use Bing 50% of the time but will admit that the results are not near as good as Google. Their services are vast and great but requires one to submit to their wants.

    If you use the Internet you can forget privacy.
     
  6. eyoungren macrumors Core

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    My son uses DuckDuckGo.

    I did too for a while (they say they do not track your searches), but like you I found the results not to be as good as Google.

    Years ago I used Yahoo for search, but Yahoo had the habit of repeating results multiple times. It still does that so I don't use it for search, although I still use my Yahoo email account.

    I've tried other search engines over the years, it's just hard to beat Google on that.
     
  7. Newtons Apple macrumors Core

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    There is no beating Google, even our Government fears Google as they depend on them for a lot of information.

    I will check out DuckDuckGo:)
     
  8. decafjava macrumors 68030

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    I've posted this before but you can search Google through DuckDuckGo by using "bangs" just open DuckDuckGo and type !g and your search term and you get an encrypted Google search. works on Amazon and Wikipedia too among many others.

    https://duckduckgo.com/bang
     
  9. eyoungren macrumors Core

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    Hmm…they do say this though (in your link):

    Good to know I can use this though, thanks!
     
  10. decafjava macrumors 68030

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    True but my understanding is the search is anonymous and not recorded in the sense of creating a "filter bubble" that will serve you what say Google thinks you are interested in.
     
  11. Azathoth123 macrumors 6502

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    I don’t use Google products anymore, except when I absolutely have to. Most frequently I use Google translate and occasionally search if DDG or Bing don’t return what I want/need. It’s true that their Maps, search, and translate are the best, I just minimize their use.

    When I use Google maps, I use it in a browser window and there’s a continual nag to re-install the app. Ever think that maybe the app slurps more data? Lol. If you want to do the best that you can with privacy, I think using a browser like Safari or a privacy-oriented browser is best. I never use the apps (but I do admit the Google Maps app offers a better experience).

    Cheers, Azy
     
  12. Newtons Apple macrumors Core

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    Somehow I bet that even if you remove every Google app on you device, Google would leave something to still gather this information. They are serious about collecting data.
     
  13. Azathoth123 macrumors 6502

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    I doubt Apple would allow this, but on OS other than MacOS or iOS, I wouldn’t put it past them.
     
  14. Newtons Apple macrumors Core

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    Apple pays Google big bucks for have it as their default search engine so who knows these days.

    Hard to know who to trust anymore.
     
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    Other way round isn't it?
    Google pays Apple.
    Otherwise it really is win-win for Google. :)
     
  16. Newtons Apple macrumors Core

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    Sorry got them in the wrong order it is Google who pays Apple 9 billion bucks to be the default search engine.

    Thanks for correcting.
     
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    I do not use Google or the email they offer.
     
  18. Tech198 macrumors G5

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    lol.., I'll agree with the first part "Someone wants you drunk" ya no kidding... I think i know who that might be.


    This video is good, but makes Google look snarky and mean.... That is an understatement. but if your an Apple users, what else are you gonna say....

    It's not bad, but may not the truth either. If i said "Google tracks you 340 times a time" Many more people will move of iPhone than if I had said "Google tracks you only 5 times a day"

    In reality ? Everyone has their own sources.. so no one is really ever correct.

    I didn't mind this stuff being important, but if Apple wants this info, this is exactly what they would have done...

    I would rather trust myself more.... that way, i can use either device and still be 100% safe.
     

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