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Certainly. Just like only a small percentage of users will ever upgrade their computer, even back when RAM and SSD wasn't soldered in. Which is why it's not a problem for most everyone. Very few will do it even when they have the option. Most people buy the base-model anyways.
 
Fair enough. I can do some basic computer repairs, including laptops, but would not feel comfortable fiddling with an iPhone. Too many tiny components packed very tightly. With most common things like battery replacement (priced at 69$), it might also work out cheaper doing it with Apple or their ASPs, since buying a battery, all the tools and spending time with all the instructions and no guarantee it will go well is not worth it, IMO. I am sure Apple are well aware of it.
 
Questions!

Does it void the warranty?

Is SIRI going to be available if you get stuck fixing the iPhone?

Let’s be real who plans on fixing their iPhone by themselves? This all sounds very scary.

Apple: How about lowering the Applecare prices? How about lowering the prices what technician will charge you. This will be more beneficial for the consumer. I don’t think this self-repair thing will work.
who would repair their own device if still under warranty ?
 
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Will apple make you submit a serial number for each part you order, or will third part repair shops have access to order parts in bulk?
 
I'm very comfortable building PCs but I would be very nervous trying to fix my phone. I'm glad this is now an option for those who will be comfortable doing this though.
I would only DIY battery replacements. Those arent too bad having done it. The problem is it's impossible to get a legit battery but this program solves that issue
 
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Other than battery replacement task, I don't think we see many of iPhone users taking advantage of this new Apple repair program.
 
I will. I am "small fraction"
I am also “small fraction“ and I really like all the “trust me I’m an engineer” posts. I don’t know how many times I’ve said that, sometimes with spectacular results. That said, my success with repairing Apple devices is nearly 100%. I like to tell people that no matter how good I am, Apple has one tool/skill that I never will: an endless supply of parts. Even though they may open this up to us, it’s not the same thing. Do you really want to wait several days to acquire a part you broke while doing a repair / upgrade? Leave all the parts of your laptop scattered on the kitchen table while you run to the Apple store only to come back and find the cat has found a new toy? There are a lot of delicate parts in Apple devices and plastic doesn’t age well.
 
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A bit suspicious that only the iPhone 12 and 13 series can take part in this.
The two iPhone models that are least likely to need repairs.
 
Seriously, if I have the money to drop $1K+ on a smartphone, you think I would cheap out on trying to repair it myself? No way, i'd rather spend the money and have either Apple or Best Buy who have the proper tools to do the job right the first time and not make it look like an amateur did the repairs. And think about it. If you try and sell a phone back to Apple or anyone else and they see it has been visibly repaired, you think you're going to get top dollar for it?
Because not everyone is buying a $1k smartphone.

My current phone is a mini, but before that I needed a phone quickly and cheaply, so I bought a $90 iPhone SE. If I could have purchased a battery from Apple, I probably would have replaced the battery just because. It's a few screws and that's it to replace it, I don't think you need anything special besides the correct screwdriver.
 
I can do basic car stuff. Oil, brakes, spark plugs, alternator….most stuff I can see. I could do basic phone stuff like display and battery.
Yarp. I replaced a crack screen on my wife's iPhone--out of warranty of course. My wife doesn't trust my redneck engineering for in warranty stuff.? I regret not replacing the battery at the same time.?‍♂️ It's gonna need to be replaced sooner or later. I'll have to open up the phone again to do that. Next time, I'll replace the battery when I have to replace the screen. BTW, the cheap knock off screen looks every bit as good as the genuine Apple screen.
 
I mean, replacing an iPhone battery is not a case of sliding the back off and putting a new battery in. There is nothing lazy about not wanting to tackle such a difficult procedure as an average consumer.

And still, no mention of the price of these parts/tools yet. Apple is not going to give away their repair business to the consumer. I am 99.99% certain that the cost of parts/tools vs the cost of repair by Apple will not make it worthwhile to DIY.

Smoke and mirrors from Apple. Everyone applauds before the detail is given.
Totally. Battery replacement is not, nor has ever been, designed for consumer replacement across Apple's handhelds (we're not talking about a Nokia 3310 here). I simply like that there is even talk of the option of making the process more possible for those so inclined - which in some cases I am inclined, in others, I am not. As I stated, I'm curious about pricing and other details. I'm not applauding the program but I am high fiving that the conversation is even happening.

Agree: Apple is not giving away anything. Based on the popularity of their $20 rag, I would not at ALL be surprised to see Apple-branded repair kits selling for $49.99 - if not higher (put an Apple logo on something, and it will move). The amount of people that will take advantage of a program none of us yet have any insight into, I suspect will prove remarkably niche. But if you're in that niche, there is potential of this being a welcome development. Certainly better than current situation.
 
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Questions!

Does it void the warranty?
No.

Is SIRI going to be available if you get stuck fixing the iPhone?
How will Siri help you? Siri barely works when the phone is brand new.

Let’s be real who plans on fixing their iPhone by themselves? This all sounds very scary.
I do. Let's be honest, this is only a few steps up from lego as long as you have the tools and guides. But besides that, this also gives people better access to repair through independent repair shops in places where Apple stores or authorised repair partners may not be available. And better yet, even people who might not want to do it now may see the value in it once they see how simple it can be.

Apple: How about lowering the Applecare prices? How about lowering the prices what technician will charge you. This will be more beneficial for the consumer. I don’t think this self-repair thing will work.
This is another great option, but I think the fact that they're making parts and tools available means Apple's first party repair service and Apple Care prices will never be coming down.
 
I do recognize that coffee makers are different than iPhones.
Yes. A coffee maker is a tool, something built to fill one specific need via a technique that hasn't changed in decades. It may make fiscal sense to buy a nicer thing and support it forever.

Apple makes portable devices designed to serve many needs, with capabilities that are expected to grow each device generation and responsibilities that are distinct to individual users. These devices tend to be long lived for their category, meaning there's a useful window for repairs, but there's still a limit to the functional lifespan (depending on the user this is between 3 and 5 years).

Some consider this planned obsolescence. It is certainly a decision to trade off long term usefulness for short term usefulness and ignore backwards compatibility when there's value in doing so.

I used to build my own machines and from 1990 through 2003 I had the "same" PC. I would replace components 3 or 4 times a year so the effect was a completely new computer every few years, sort of like the Ship of Theseus. One of the reasons I stopped doing this was the number of coupled upgrades got to be so frequent that I began to see more value in integrated systems.

These upgrades were required to get maximum performance because higher specs in one component begged higher specs in another -- faster ram to feed a faster processor, new bus architecture to accept faster peripherals, etc. This just doesn't happen with coffee makers.

If you look to the past two decades, most of the times Apple has made a choice that reduced modularity/repairability, the market has responded by making the resulting product a massive hit. Any of us can claim that what we want is something we can fix or upgrade ourselves, but experience tells us that following that impulse isn't going to result in comparable sales to focusing on smaller, better integrated products.
 
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It only will only benefit most end users when Apple decides to design and engineer their devices for much easier service.
It will benefit anyone BUT Apple. Apple is interested in selling you new device every year.
 
I will definitely be a part of this small fraction but I'll probably defer my computer repairs, unless the program includes components. If it comes down to being a top case for a port failure etc still, then just make Apple do it.
 
Can only think that I would do it in a couple of years when my battery begins to fail in my 13 PM. But it is good that they make it possible for whoever wants to do it.
 
I will definitely be a part of this small fraction but I'll probably defer my computer repairs, unless the program includes components. If it comes down to being a top case for a port failure etc still, then just make Apple do it.
I tried to make Apple change battery in my iPad Air 2. It worked fine, except would shut down randomly and then it'd be asking for charger, even with battery charged to 100%. I sent my device to Apple and they returned it to me saying that I misused it and they won't repair it. I was furious. I spoke to Apple support and they could not tell me what the issue was, but though that it may have been jailbroken. I did not jailbreak it, my wife certainly didn't do it, perhaps my 4 year old daughter did?

Anyways, I ended up buying the battery replacement package from iFixit and replaced it myself and it works fine after that.

eff Apple and their idiot technicians.
 
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I see a major user of this to be the tech support family member getting into this program and being the person that can fix them for family and friends. Maybe you pay him or her in beer or pizza or something.
 
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I tried to make Apple change battery in my iPad Air 2. It worked fine, except would shut down randomly and then it'd be asking for charger, even with battery charged to 100%. I sent my device to Apple and they returned it to me saying that I misused it and they won't repair it. I was furious. I spoke to Apple support and they could not tell me what the issue was, but though that it may have been jailbroken. I did not jailbreak it, my wife certainly didn't do it, perhaps my 4 year old daughter did?

Anyways, I ended up buying the battery replacement package from iFixit and replaced it myself.
eff Apple and their idiot technicians.
In my experience, Apple won't replace a battery in an iPad, they typically replace the entire unit. I don't know when you tried having this done, but without AppleCare or Limited Warranty you would've had to pay for the replacement anyway, it doesn't seem like something Apple would deny fixing with the monetary incentive.

I'm glad you were able to get it replaced yourself though! iPads can be tricky to work with.
 
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