turboflam3
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IF you really want the "hand picked tested quality" then that's the way to go. At least the extra money is going into the computer.
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'OpenMac' Promises $399 Headless Mac... But Not From Apple
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IF you really want the "hand picked tested quality" then that's the way to go. At least the extra money is going into the computer.
I can tell you for a fact that by saying that, its very convincing.
Foxconn manufactures majority of Apple's product, from iMac to iPod. Foxconn also supplies other motherboard manufacturers for parts, and supply other notebook manufacturers for parts.
Therefore, by saying that Apple's computer and PCs don't share common parts is oxymoron.
farmboy
macrumors 65816
It's Contract Law. EULA = Offer and Acceptance. Binding.
It's Contract Law. EULA = Offer, Acceptance, Consideration. Binding.
Also, they are (probably) not authorized to sell, or re-sell, Apple's property (Leopard).
It's Contract Law. EULA = Offer, Acceptance, Consideration. Binding.
Also, they are (probably) not authorized to sell, or re-sell, Apple's property (Leopard).
Aha, and I think that's the reason why ****ing apple is not able to sell me a MB with a 7200rpm HD, isn't it ? Why the **** do I have to buy it myself and open my MB to throw the bottle neck inside out and replace it with a good hdd ?
Sorry but this company just sucks. Leopard is the only thing what rocks at this company but computer hardware and the deals ****ing suck.
But if you really believe Apple hand pick your parts, stress tested it, and assembled them individually, you're wrong.
If you want that kind of service, you're looking at Falcon NW and Voodoo's pricing.
Actually, it looks like the website went down because they got too much traffic - looks like demand for a cheaper Mac is bigger than I even thought it was.
Nope. I didn't sign anything, and I didn't even see the EULA until after I've already paid for and opened the software. This thread is full of reasons why an EULA wouldn't hold up in a court of law.
Fabio_gsilva
macrumors 6502
synth3tik
macrumors 68040
It does seem like some really tricky ground for Apple. As Arn said. The EULA is for the end user and not the company. Apple might try to stop them in court, but if they don't pre-install OS X, then it would be hard (and a PR nightmare) if Apple was to go after these people.
I guess a big thing for me would be support. If you have a problem with an "openmac" you can't expect to walk up to the genius bar and have them fix it.
No sir, I don't like it. I don't like it one bit.
I guess a big thing for me would be support. If you have a problem with an "openmac" you can't expect to walk up to the genius bar and have them fix it.
No sir, I don't like it. I don't like it one bit.
thats the problem, and thats why this OpenMac got started, because apple doesn't make a low cost machine with good parts. Macmini has crap in it, the openmac gets imac parts in a mac mini pricetag. thats truth right there
How about self-built?
Now I know why some Apple users have egos, and believe they have superior products....
...because they only compare to Dells.
diamond.g
macrumors G5
Haha, Voodoo and Falcon NorthWest makes a stock Mac Pro look cheap (price wise). With the amount of systems Apple makes I don't think they hand test every rig.
Eidorian
macrumors Penryn
I've sent just as many 1999 Pentium III Dell XPS as I have Power Mac G3s to salvage.
I don't see a lack of quality from either company. Welcome to the internet. Sadly people are here to complain. I've bought and I've built my own computers. I've own Macs as well. I've been lucky and never had any component failures but that's what RMAs and warranties are for.
inkswamp
macrumors 68030
Possibly, although I don't understand being happy about that.
Apple cannot stop them from selling the machine itself. Now that the word is out, even if they have to remove all mention of OS X and Macs from their site, the message has already been spread far and wide. I suspect they're still going to have a long line of buyers waiting when the site comes back up.
Why headless? That part is easy
- You already have a nice display
- You do not want to be forced to get rid of your display when you upgrade the computer as all imac users must
- You just want to be able to choose from the hundreds of displays on the market
Now about the Mac Mini: First off it is not "cheap" it is actully quite expensive compared to other computers with even bettr specs. For example HP makes a more powerfull quad core maichine. Also the Mini is not upgradable so it's total cost of ownership wil be high because you can not extend it's usfull life via upgrades.
Apple needs to sell a machine like this. Bt we know they never will because if they did offer a $500 mid tower it would just kill of the Mini and iMac lines.
...and what do you think you are paying for? People need to stop adding up the prices of individual components. That argument is old and pointless. You are paying for the integration, you are paying for the design, you are paying for the silent operation, you are paying for OSX, you are paying for the experience - GET IT?
Personally I encounter some Dell horror stories. A friend of mine bought a Dell, and Ram poofed on him about 2 weeks later. Therefore I regard Dells as.... low quality build.
But again, it might happened to Apple users too.
bokdol
macrumors 6502a
because it is unfair to compare self-built to manufactured.
most people look to buy a machine.. not parts to make one. thats why we have computer manufacturers.
because the majority of people can not/ will not make their own machine.
farmboy
macrumors 65816
Ben
The mini is what it is and was designed to be, for better or worse. Nothing was left out, except in your mind.
The mini is what it is and was designed to be, for better or worse. Nothing was left out, except in your mind.
no i just dont believe the snakeoil sorry.
i am paying for the experience ? get real.
look at the powermac forums and see how many people are having they own trouble with the 'experience'
And tell me again why should I pay 2x the price if I can get the same setup from HP, from Dell, or even self-built, that also come pre-built, operated silently, elegant designed?
What experience are you talking about? What's the difference in experience between using a computer and... using another computer?
Eidorian
macrumors Penryn
I believe working in a Dell 3 year warranty next business repair environment has skewed my opinions. I've seen users treat their hardware terribly and Dell just smiles as they fix it.
Can you provide any more examples then bad RAM? What prevents Apple from having bad RAM or me buying some as well? What about other bad components? (e.g. capacitors)
Only a matter of time...
http://www.news.com/8301-13579_3-9918069-37.html
The ugly box is dead in the water...
http://www.news.com/8301-13579_3-9918069-37.html
The ugly box is dead in the water...
You show me an EQUIVALENT machine to the current Mac Pro in price. Giddy up. This has been beaten to death 100 times. Yes the MacMini is the only ripoff.