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As I said, bad RAMs do not limit to only Dells, but also other brands. However from dozens of computer I've encountered, I've only seen problems in Dell computers. Contrary to you, this led me to develop a notion that Dell's computers are less reliable.

I've also encountered bad optical drive on Dell's notebook, after a year of little use. I've also encountered poor ventilation that led to excessive dust built up and internal components overheating, but I guess it is more of a design issue than a mechanical issue.

My Dell XPS m1210 is about 2 years old. The DVD driver only reads regular CD/CD-Rs without making grinding noises and it never did burn a DVD properly. Upgraded the firmware, software, etc. Dell wanted money even when it supposingly was in warrenty as they state there is nothing wrong with the drive. I tread my dell only with kindness and the OS crapped out twice and had to be reloaded, the painted surface is showing warn out spots and I have marks and impressions in the medal, that I have no idea where they came from. As for memory. Good luck trying to upgrade it. One slot is easily accessable, the other slot requires dissembling the whole machine. Dell told me how to do it, but also stated if it I did it, kiss my warrenty goodbye.
 
Of course you did. The only situation where you wouldn't have seen it is if you are a pirate. Every shrink-wrap license is subject to acceptance of its terms. If you don't agree, you give it back.

Seriously now, have these lowly hackers been arrested or not?

They aren't hackers, and no, they have not been shut down. You can call their 888 number if you'd like to order one. :p
 
Is someone forcing you to purchase Apple products? Is this a personal problem? The difference is one runs OSX and the other runs something I don't want to use as a desktop. I have many machines in my home, FreeBSD servers, Solaris servers, Windows Desktops for gaming and I use OSX for desktop. I've built every single computer I've ever owned by hand, except the MacPro. Why? Because I don't want to be bothered with hacking this and hacking that. I bought it because I have work to be done running 3 different business and that is that. K?
Have you ever used an application or a Terminal command to alter a function of OS X that Apple normally has made unattainable? Have you ever installed third party drivers in order to attempt to get hardware to work? Just because it's OS X doesn't mean you're not going to "hack" it. I can more then assure you that there are plenty of OS X users that have had to use plenty of "hack" workarounds to be productive.

No CUPS protocol network browsing enabled by default in Leopard stands out for me.
 
the mini is overpriced for the specs...however, you're paying for the "mini" form factor and the :apple: logo

If someone wants a mini, who cares. I kind of like them and will prob. get one for my wife.

Lastly, Apple will not get into the mid-tower business for one reason only...they are ugly. Apple is in a large part about aesthetics. There's nothing "pretty" about a tower. They're clunky, bulky, not aerodynamic, and they just sit on the ground taking up space.

A mid-size tower would be completely out of place in Apple's lineup.

...just my two cents.
 
been there done that

LEGAL:

Glad to see someone try to make money on this... apple will probably win any lawsuit against them and they will go away.... but with Apple gaining more and more market share i do see the courts starting to side with "clone" companies eventually... i mean think of microsoft being a manufacture of a pc... there would be anti-trust suits all over the place... if apple continues to grow, it has to realize that it will soon face anti-trust


NON-LEGAL:

Coming from someone who has has a custom build Core 2 Quad, 8800GT HackPro... it is fun and works 99% of the time including updates... but since i'd have to boot into windowz to play games (which is all i use my desktop for) it was pointless... i like having my MBP for school (dont have to worry about loosing anything)... and i use the desktop for my torrents and games


while the Mini is less power, seeing how there realy isnt any games for osx that are worth playing, why would you need a good video card? i'd get the mni and a nice 23"/24" screen and call it a day
 
This article does not phase me. I tried downloading the free osx project when I first got interested in Apple, and the software / OS just crapped out. Personally I do not build machines anymore. I got tired of paying more for the parts than if I bought the whole machine (coupled with the hassles of configuring it and make it all work, and the fact is you do not have a warranty (ie if a part breaks you are stuck waiting - while most warranties they just hand you a new machine).

If you like tinkering with stuff, fine - but as for me I want a machine that I can use to get my work done and pleasure out of - not something that I am going to take apart.

As someone who does not have time to tinker - give me a OS/hardware line that is integrated, provides the user experience I want and need to get my work done plus leaves room for some fun besides. Plus also give me a product that will last for years until I want to upgrade next.

That's why I bought a REAL mac.
 
This article does not phase me. I tried downloading the free osx project when I first got interested in Apple, and the software / OS just crapped out. Personally I do not build machines anymore. I got tired of paying more for the parts than if I bought the whole machine (coupled with the hassles of configuring it and make it all work, and the fact is you do not have a warranty (ie if a part breaks you are stuck waiting - while most warranties they just hand you a new machine).

If you like tinkering with stuff, fine - but as for me I want a machine that I can use to get my work done and pleasure out of - not something that I am going to take apart.

As someone who does not have time to tinker - give me a OS/hardware line that is integrated, provides the user experience I want and need to get my work done plus leaves room for some fun besides. Plus also give me a product that will last for years until I want to upgrade next.

That's why I bought a REAL mac.

Not everyone is like you or wants what you want...
 
its generating a lot of heat because it costs 1/3 of a f***ing apple computer and does the same job.

the only rebuttal mac evangelists have is 'but my box is prettier'

a computer is a TOOL, not a fashion statement. this is something almost all new apple users have never thought about.
What kind of car do you drive? After all, a car is just a tool to get you from A to B.

Do you wear free t-shirts and sweat pants everywhere you go? After all, clothes are just a tool to protect you from the elements.

Some people don't care what their computers look like. Some people do.
 
i pose for people to have a manufacture built machine mini. with exact specs and was waiting for an answer. i got one. and it cost more. granted it had x3100 instead of the 950. all i can say is you got one, post it. same size as the mini with same components.

after apple moved to intel they have been more similar in cost they what people perceive.

but yes there is an apple tax. and it can be clearly seen under ram upgrades

I can give the specification to you.

C2D compatible mini-ITX = 184USD
1Gb DDR2-677 laptop RAM = 20USD
80GB HDD = 80USD
ODD = 30USD max
OS X = 100USD
Case = 20USD (maximum manufacturing cost)

Subtotal = 434USD

Feel good factor = 100USD
A shot of Elitist Superiority virus = 100USD

Grand Total = 634 USD

Advertised price = 599 USD

You're right, my bad. Apple is indeed cheaper.
 
Are you having a bad day or something? So far I've been criticizing these:

1. Its overpriced, but if you're willing to pay for it, fine.
2. Its the same thing as a PC, including similar parts. Nothing more, nothing less.

If you're willing to spend that much money for a product that you can get for cheap elsewhere, be my guest. If you don't like Windows and prefer OS X, fine by me. But don't give me that "OSX is better" or "Apple is better" bullcrap.

As for your "hacking this and hacking that", I have no idea what you're talking about. As a PC user, I don't hack around just to get my PC working. I don't hack around to get additional softwares. How is that different from an Apple user?
I don't think you understand anything I've posted. This entire thread is about making an illegal mac yes? I don't want to do deal with the EFI hacks, tooling around with which updates i'm supposed to before it breaks this and that.

Have you ever used an application or a Terminal command to alter a function of OS X that Apple normally has made unattainable? Have you ever installed third party drivers in order to attempt to get hardware to work? Just because it's OS X doesn't mean you're not going to "hack" it. I can more then assure you that there are plenty of OS X users that have had to use plenty of "hack" workarounds to be productive.

No CUPS protocol network browsing enabled by default in Leopard stands out for me.
Oh give me a break. There is a SLIGHT difference between enabling CUPS and altering the EFI strings for video cards and your mobo to work with a torrented Leopard disc you did not pay for.

lol tons of people are already blogging about this.
Wow, if the bloggers have it, it MUST be REAL news now.
 
I don't think you understand anything I've posted. This entire thread is about making an illegal mac yes? I don't want to do deal with the EFI hacks, tooling around with which updates i'm supposed to before it breaks this and that.

This is what you originally posted:
Is someone forcing you to purchase Apple products? Is this a personal problem? The difference is one runs OSX and the other runs something I don't want to use as a desktop. I have many machines in my home, FreeBSD servers, Solaris servers, Windows Desktops for gaming and I use OSX for desktop. I've built every single computer I've ever owned by hand, except the MacPro. Why? Because I don't want to be bothered with hacking this and hacking that. I bought it because I have work to be done running 3 different business and that is that. K?

The above quotes looks like you're attacking my view points on Macintosh. Of course if you mean otherwise, I apologize for the mis-interpretation. However, from the looks of it, you were really getting on with how I criticized Apple's products.

As for the "hackintosh", I agree with you that I may not want to use it as a long term solution. However, I would love to try OSX out after seeing so much hype around it. I was just merely speculating that if I dislike OS X, at least this "hackintosh" would allow me to install other operating system, unlike the much pricier genuine Mac.
 
its generating a lot of heat because it costs 1/3 of a f***ing apple computer and does the same job.

the only rebuttal mac evangelists have is 'but my box is prettier'

a computer is a TOOL, not a fashion statement. this is something almost all new apple users have never thought about.

That is certainly a valid opinion for those who feel that a computer, a car, or any mechanical or electonic device is just a tool. But some people do look for more. I don't have a lot of flashy stuff but I always wanted a BMW so I bought one--it is a 2001 and I plan to keep it for a long time. Much of the rational I had for wanting and buying a BMW applies to my new iMac as well. There is more to life than just the basics. Many people want more--be it better engineering, better design, better reliability--whatever--there are many reasons so don't just think that everyone is satisfied with just a "tool."
 
What kind of car do you drive? After all, a car is just a tool to get you from A to B.

Do you wear free t-shirts and sweat pants everywhere you go? After all, clothes are just a tool to protect you from the elements.

Some people don't care what their computers look like. Some people do.
A pretty computer is still a computer. Its looks aren't going to improve its performance or how it runs software.

And your bicycle is a tool for transportation, as well a $1000 used car. What are you driving?
Both? Gas prices are high around here. I don't see a need know how much my bike and car cost or how pretty and integrated they are.

Oh give me a break. There is a SLIGHT difference between enabling CUPS and altering the EFI strings for video cards and your mobo to work with a torrented Leopard disc you did not pay for.
I don't see a need to put forth much effort if you're using hardware that's nearly identical to what Apple ships. Why are you going to use radically different hardware? Keep in mind I don't condone what OpenMac is doing nor building a "hackintosh".

I agree. I guess personal experiences account for a lot of personal beliefs.
No worries. Just keep an open mind. ;)
 
the mini is overprices for the specs...however, you're paying for the "mini" form factor and the :apple: logo

And the problem with that is that most people who want a budget machine don't care about the "mini" form factor, yet that's the only thing apple offers in that price range. Plus you're not paying for the logo, you're paying for the OS.

Lastly, Apple will not get into the mid-tower business for one reason only...they are ugly. Apple is in a large part about aesthetics. There's nothing "pretty" about a tower. They're clunky, bulky, not aerodynamic, and they just sit on the ground taking up space.

Wow, that's the dumbest reason not to do a minitower I've probably ever heard. First, apple could design one that looks better, although most people just don't care about that for that kind of machine (mine is on the floor so I literally never even see the damn thing - you could sneak into my office and glue garbage all over it and I wouldn't even notice). And second, if all those things really mattered to apple, then why are they making the big bulky Mac Pro?
 
I might happen, maybe once?

No Apple's never fail, that's why apple sells apple care, just for the heck of, just because.

The power supply in my friends imac did not fail after a couple months either, he just the whole computer in to Apple for a visit...

However I do have a 4 year old dell that I've never had to take in for any repairs, I also upgraded the hard drive & ram without a paint scraper...

Also my last dell never had any failures either....

Nice sarcasm.

So as Eidorian says, no OEM manufacturers should be singled out for having occasional bad components. Afterall they all come from the same factory, handled by the same personnels, and shipped to their respective OEM partners.
 
This article does not phase me. I tried downloading the free osx project when I first got interested in Apple, and the software / OS just crapped out. Personally I do not build machines anymore. I got tired of paying more for the parts than if I bought the whole machine (coupled with the hassles of configuring it and make it all work, and the fact is you do not have a warranty (ie if a part breaks you are stuck waiting - while most warranties they just hand you a new machine).

If you like tinkering with stuff, fine - but as for me I want a machine that I can use to get my work done and pleasure out of - not something that I am going to take apart.

As someone who does not have time to tinker - give me a OS/hardware line that is integrated, provides the user experience I want and need to get my work done plus leaves room for some fun besides. Plus also give me a product that will last for years until I want to upgrade next.

That's why I bought a REAL mac.

Um, pardon me "Rev Scott Hervieux IT Professional 20 years & Licensed Christian Minister", but whatever happened to Thou Shalt Not Steal? OS X is not, never was and never will be free in either sense of the word. ;)
 
hi

3 months ago i saw pc parts machine running tiger flawlessly in the caribbean.

they were also faster than their mac counterparts.

by the way, i am macmax, just couldn't log in with my old account, maybe something here at work won't let me....??????
 
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