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Operation Chokehold
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So you're going to protest limited bandwidth by limiting other people's bandwidth needlessly. That's about as genius as wearing tea bags to protest taxes, except wearing tea bags doesn't mess up the days of other people.
Mlrollin91
macrumors G5
Thats a good one
At least we will know who to blame if AT&T now charges more for data and limits are unlimited(5GB) to less than that...
Small White Car
macrumors G4
No, we understand it perfectly well. Just because it's stupid and we point that out doesn't mean don't get it.
It just means it's stupid.
eezing
macrumors 6502
Obviously, you've completely missed the point.
Here:
-Operation Chokepoint: iPhone users using more data than normal between 12 and 1pm.
-At&t knows the reasoning behind Operation Chokepoint, which is that iPhone users don't want data limitations.
-At&t can measure data usage
-If more than normal data usage occurs between 12 and 1pm today, then Operation Chokepoint was successful in that the iPhone user base was heard. It's really no different than twittering or blogging, just another form of communication.
By all means, do what you feel is right. I was just trying to inform others.
You never know when it comes to San Francisco, it's THE city for mob-mentality, vis a vis Critical Mass, tuition hike protests, Obama's troop plan protests, Black Friday protests, Zombies, breast freedom, etc etc.
Point is, i wouldn't be surprised if half the people who participate in "Operation Chokehold" are in SF, and the other half are in Berkeley.
Small White Car
macrumors G4
AT&T knows their network sucks.
AT&T knows that iPhone users use a lot of data.
AT&T knows we don't want to pay more.
Is there anything else? Some other point I'm missing? If they already know all of that then what are you trying to teach them? You're trying to tell them what they already know?
How is that not a waste of time? What's next, teaching kids to like candy?
anjinha
macrumors 604
The issue here isn't that you're protesting or even what you're protesting about: it's how you're doing it.
Rodimus Prime
macrumors G4
Here is a though that many of the people doing operation coke hold and it looks like FSJ are not seeing because they are blinded by their own selfish desires is the plan will backfire on them
All it does is give att more fuel and evidence that the limits need to be put in place. It give att zero incentive not to do anything. Are people really that clueless that they are only encouraging a plan that they do not want to happen
All it does is give att more fuel and evidence that the limits need to be put in place. It give att zero incentive not to do anything. Are people really that clueless that they are only encouraging a plan that they do not want to happen
countrydweller
macrumors 6502
Protests can be good and accomplish much sometimes. Do you feel any protests are stupid? Why or why not?
Exactly, feel free to protest but please don't screw up the lives of those who don't care about what you're protesting. It's like what I told the Critical Mass guys who were physically attacking me, "Yea, you throwing your bicycle at me somehow made me realize your cause is just."
VenusianSky
macrumors 65816
So you are protesting something that does not even exist. That is even more idiotic than protesting something like poor network service. Last I checked, there is no tiered pricing model for the data plan. On top of that, if you are going to protest anything, do it by leaving AT&T and going to another network. Leave the innocent bystanders out of such nonsense.
ngenerator
macrumors 68000
So what about those of us who already always listen to their Sirius/XM app through their iHomes at work during the day? Are we among those that are rude and "taking down the network"? Or should we just use the iPod app until after 1pm PST?
I honestly haven't seen any degradation of service for the past 25 minutes, is it happening in any major cities anywhere?
I honestly haven't seen any degradation of service for the past 25 minutes, is it happening in any major cities anywhere?
jav6454
macrumors Core
I've been off these forums for a while... however, I will voice this loud and clear. I think it's the most childish thing ever.
All you will accomplish is nothing but give AT&T more reason to tier you. If your service with AT&T sucks because of your area, then why the hell did you buy an iPhone? Plain and simple, there are many other options out there.
I for one love the iPhone and AT&T's service. They have been spot on and never missed a beat with my service since Day 1 with the 1st Gen iPhone. Even with the 3GS I now own, everything is way better.
All you will accomplish is nothing but give AT&T more reason to tier you. If your service with AT&T sucks because of your area, then why the hell did you buy an iPhone? Plain and simple, there are many other options out there.
I for one love the iPhone and AT&T's service. They have been spot on and never missed a beat with my service since Day 1 with the 1st Gen iPhone. Even with the 3GS I now own, everything is way better.
Givmeabrek
macrumors 68040
What the heck is operation coke hold?? Some call it operation choke hold or chicken choking or whatever.... So confusing... 😱
I'll just sit back with a beer and choke whatever I can..... 😀
-aggie-
macrumors P6
QFT. However, my 3G is running strong as ever, and it's after 12:00 PST. This Operation is a complete FAIL, which is good.
Edit: I like Operation Coke Mold as a new name for this. 🙂
I may disagree with this way of expressing your anger but I understand your frustration. Check out these links:
http://gizmodo.com/5428717/att-has-...uction-every-quarter-since-the-iphones-launch
http://justanotheriphoneblog.com/wordpress/general/is-att-failing-to-invest-enough-in-their-network
http://ycharts.com/companies/search?q=VZ vs T&c=cap_ex_percentage
In those three links it shows that AT&T has actually been spending less on infrastructure as they've been getting more revenues from an increasing iPhone userbase. Also Verizon has been spending more than AT&T. It shows AT&T are pocketing the cash.
This company is really disgusting.
http://gizmodo.com/5428717/att-has-...uction-every-quarter-since-the-iphones-launch
http://justanotheriphoneblog.com/wordpress/general/is-att-failing-to-invest-enough-in-their-network
http://ycharts.com/companies/search?q=VZ vs T&c=cap_ex_percentage
In those three links it shows that AT&T has actually been spending less on infrastructure as they've been getting more revenues from an increasing iPhone userbase. Also Verizon has been spending more than AT&T. It shows AT&T are pocketing the cash.
This company is really disgusting.
Steve686
macrumors 68040
OK. For the mislead sheep that are trying to say "Operation CHOKEPOINT" is merely to show up on ATT's radar by using more than normal bandwidth and defending it under the guise of "simple protest", you'd better rename the whole thing without using the word, "CHOKEPOINT".
If it were a simple protest, why would you use the word CHOKEPOINT which references bringing the network to a point of "choking" and denying other users the ability to use the network?
If anyone in this forum that condones this, operation(lol), would care to elaborate and explain the idea more, please do so. Otherwise it is truly a simple temper tantrum that achieves nothing.
If it were a simple protest, why would you use the word CHOKEPOINT which references bringing the network to a point of "choking" and denying other users the ability to use the network?
If anyone in this forum that condones this, operation(lol), would care to elaborate and explain the idea more, please do so. Otherwise it is truly a simple temper tantrum that achieves nothing.
Huh? I doubt 99% of iPhone users care about the arbitrary monthly bandwidth caps. They just want the network to be reliable. I fail to see how trying to overload the network accomplishes anything since people already know the places where AT&T is unreliable. Everyone already knows this.
*LTD*
macrumors G4
Seems to be having some effect . . .
http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/operation-chokehold-brings-down-att-s-data-network
Operation Chokehold Brings Down (some of) ATT's Data Network
Remember Operation Chokehold? That plan by Fake Steve Jobs to overload AT&T's data network. Customers in some cities -- Salt Lake City (UT) and Dallas (TX) in particular -- are reporting that both 3G and EDGE have been brought down. How is your AT&T data connection?
http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/operation-chokehold-brings-down-att-s-data-network
Operation Chokehold Brings Down (some of) ATT's Data Network
Remember Operation Chokehold? That plan by Fake Steve Jobs to overload AT&T's data network. Customers in some cities -- Salt Lake City (UT) and Dallas (TX) in particular -- are reporting that both 3G and EDGE have been brought down. How is your AT&T data connection?
jav6454
macrumors Core
3G service is stronger than ever here in New Orleans. In fact I find it speedier today than ever before... maybe we got upgraded to 7.2 Mb/s??
-aggie-
macrumors P6
What baloney! I happened to read some of the posts to one of these articles reporting on Chokehold and people were reporting problems before 12:00 PST. Soooo, the problems had nothing to do with Choke Mold.
It's just fine and as fast as it's always been, which is pretty fast around here. Sounds like Operation Choke the Chicken or whatever it's called was a big fail.
Rodimus Prime
macrumors G4
Thank you dumb ass for encoogaing att limits on the data. God I hope att presses charges against fsj for his ddos attack and I will laugh my ass off.
Are the iPhone babies really that stupid not to think that att will not just use this a proof the limits need to go in place. Dumb asses