OPPO Responds to Apple's Trade Secrets Lawsuit

[ThailandToo]

The problem is self-correcting. China graduates FAR more engineers and scientists from their own universities than the US does. It is more than a ten-to-one ratio. So many of the papers I read recently are from Chinese sources.

Soon the trend wil flip

That’s not the issue, it’s a matter of intellectual property theft by people in the USA who are usually trained/educated in the USA but who are not from the USA and those people are usually from China which has an intellectual property theft lack of respect for the USA. Living in Asia, I can say that all of Asia feels that everything is free use. If you can reverse engineer it or do it cheaper, you win. Hence, changing patent laws and enforcing worldwide is the only way to stop it.

 

[Kr0019]

What I find amazing, and a bit amusing, is that this Shi fellow possibly did not know, or understand, that all his actions on the corporate net are monitored and stored. Now, maybe he knew, did not care, and figured he would be long gone by the time Apple found out. Who knows? However, I would almost think that in the future, whenever an employee gives notice to leave, Apple will immediately review all of their keyboard activity. A bit surprised they don't do that already.

As for OPPO's response, that is the lawyer speaking. Now that the cat is out of the bag, I expect OPPO will distance itself from Shi, possibly end his employment, and throw him to the wolves. OPPO could quietly approach Apple, issue a mea culpa, terminate Shi, and license the technology. No harm, no foul. Mostly.

If OPPO brings to market any tech that vaguely looks 'Apple', Apple will be on them in a heartbeat.

I see you're not fully aware of how the CCP IP theft policy works or how they treat their own. Shi was there only a short time, so it's likely he was primed for that position just to do what is alleged. You can bet that he will never be seen or heard from again. He has done his job, they have the IP so he is dispensable, but they'll never turn him over. They laugh at IP lawsuits because there's no consequences on the international stage for anything they do.

 

[CapitalIdea]

They have a paper trail Oppo.

 

[bluesteel]

Stop hiring Chinese nationals. It's become such a huge problem across the defense industry, technology corporations, and countless other examples. American universities welcome Chinese students (and revenue from the CCP) with open arms, only for them to absorb and frequently steal as much intellectual property as they can get their hands on and flee back to China. It's ridiculous. Time to stop rolling out the red carpet for these people.

Well said. I agree 100%. The fact that the U.S. still allows this, knowing the consequences, is peak stupidity. It’s national self-sabotage, a kind of willful blindness that borders on suicide. Instead of protecting our industries and security, we keep rolling out the red carpet for a rival power, a communist rival power, that openly seeks our failure and/or destruction, and works tirelessly to undermine us. Few policies could be more recklessly self-destructive.

 

[neuropsychguy]

There are numerous CCP loyalists that frequent popular social media pages and tech blogs like this so they can counter any anti China comments. Don't be under any misunderstanding, this site has many of those here and it's obvious when you know the telltale signs.

There's nothing in that commenter's history (in the hundreds of comments I skimmed over the past 4 years of comments) that suggests it's an account like that.

 

[RWI]

China: We lespect... Nuff said. Move along people..

 

[strawbale]

OPPOrtunism springs to mind

 

[arc of the universe]

...The many Chinese nationals in the US is actually what is allowing the US to lead in tech areas such as AI and at Apple. Half of all AI researchers are Chinese. ...

this is accurate.
yet, many people deny this (as evidenced by the number of down clicks on your post).

america's greatest universities are the best in the world, especially at the graduate school and post-doctoral levels.
many of china's greatest universities are near the same levels as their american counterparts.

the percentage of chinese people studying at america's universities is actually staggeringly high.
i read a lot of medical and scientific research papers, and it certainly does seem to me that chinese contrbution to these papers is very high.

the solution is not to wall-off american universities from Chinese students. their participation in american higher education is helping to make american universities even more important.

the problem and the solution has been identified for decades already: get more american citizens into sciences at an early age. develop better junior and senior high schools. and, more lately, don't deny science.

 

[JustinKent]

Gotta give them credit for the response…

 

[SFjohn]

The problem is self-correcting. China graduates FAR more engineers and scientists from their own universities than the US does. It is more than a ten-to-one ratio. So many of the papers I read recently are from Chinese sources.

Soon the trend will flip

How is this trend going to flip? Education is only getting more expensive in the USA. We also don’t have the population that China or India have. IMHO I don’t see this getting better anytime soon… Please enlighten me? Seriously, I really want to know how you see this flipping. Thanks 🙏🏼

 

[Student of Life]

Well said. I agree 100%. The fact that the U.S. still allows this, knowing the consequences, is peak stupidity. It’s national self-sabotage, a kind of willful blindness that borders on suicide. Instead of protecting our industries and security, we keep rolling out the red carpet for a rival power, a communist rival power, that openly seeks our failure and/or destruction, and works tirelessly to undermine us. Few policies could be more recklessly self-destructive.

As a generalization we focus on the short term at the expense of the long term. Universities will gladly take the full tuition price of a foreigner because they make more money that way, not really caring where the money comes from. A company will gladly take a foreigner because they can pay less and exploit them, not realizing they are the ones being exploited because short term they are winning. This is a systemic issue that has no simple solution.

In the global sense, it seems like we are generally speed running what Dell did by chasing the fast short term gain to our demise, on top of the lack of social importance on education.

 

[MrTemple]

I'm just glad Apple doesn't use IP from other companies without the rights to do so.

Oh wait ...

Careful throwing stones in the liquid glass house.

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I’m willing to bet an oxygen-monitoring Apple Watch that you understand the difference between stealing documents from your employer to sell to their competitor and developing technology yourself that happens to be protected under a somewhat broad patent owned by others.

Of course I get how the integrity of acknowledging that difference runs counter to effective trolling.

 

[Neil J. Squillante]

They're probably correct. All the guy's dodginess seems to have been in the period between him accepting the job at OPPO and him actually starting.

Think it through. The accused person must still work at the former employer to access the data. He then quits and takes that data to the new job. Even if he's the only person using the data at the new job, his new employer is still liable.

 

[CosmicTris392]

"We investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing!"

 

[mysticmanix]

"They stole the secrets on how to make Siri extra crappy, this has to stop immediately"

 

[Hogswarts]

Yes, OPPO didn't misappropriate Apple's trade secrets. The guy OPPO hired did.

 

[yabeweb]

Did you even bother to read the previous article or the lawsuit summary before posting? Apple claims that Shi downloaded confidential documents to a USB drive and promised to provide material to a competitor. Or are you simply believing their denial, which any company would do in this situation?

So we doubt Oppo but we take whatever Apple says for truth?

May be Apple is just salty they keep losing people to other co panties lately.

 

[farkingdom]

Stop hiring Chinese nationals. It's become such a huge problem across the defense industry, technology corporations, and countless other examples. American universities welcome Chinese students (and revenue from the CCP) with open arms, only for them to absorb and frequently steal as much intellectual property as they can get their hands on and flee back to China. It's ridiculous. Time to stop rolling out the red carpet for these people.

This is such a racist statement.
My previous manager (originates from China) and works at the states, when he left he didn’t steal no trade secrets or whatever. In fact he’s like one of the nicest person we knew, had a proper pass down to all of us before he left.
How can you assume all Chinese nationals behave that way?

 

[svish]

Even with the initial denial response, cannot fully believe them. Have to wait for the case to be completely over before reaching a conclusion. Waiting to hear more on this.

 

[ginkobiloba]

I'm just glad Apple doesn't use IP from other companies without the rights to do so.

Oh wait ...

Careful throwing stones in the liquid glass house.

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You mean Apple employees are being sent to other companies to work there, then download confidential information into USB drives while attempting to meticuously erase their traces, then contacting Apple back promising to bring as much information as possible before leaving ?
Wow !

 

[DailySlow]

Dare I say it's a career path for the talented and ambitious. Realistically, in this day and age, there is a better future for the ex-pats - re-pats in China than the short attention span focus group that's the US today.

 

[Innovati0n]

Anyone who believes this statement is very gullible

 

[Innovati0n]

Fact is the Chinese government always steal IP from western companies and gives the IP to the Chinese companies to build.

Always? I can believe often, but always is quite a thing to call a fact.

 

[racerhomie]

Thieving clown company

 

[attila]

Stop hiring Chinese nationals. It's become such a huge problem across the defense industry, technology corporations, and countless other examples. American universities welcome Chinese students (and revenue from the CCP) with open arms, only for them to absorb and frequently steal as much intellectual property as they can get their hands on and flee back to China. It's ridiculous. Time to stop rolling out the red carpet for these people.

Stop being so afraid of foreigners.