Well I know that hope springs eternal… but a bit of realism also helps.
No matter how much we complain about it, O2 and Apple have struck an exclusive deal.
What is not going to happen is Apple and O2 allowing other parties into their closed partnership. Unless the EC or individual governments force them to play fair. (See EC vs. Microsoft)
There already are!
Perhaps they are hoping that you will change your mind over the next month.I really can't see any point in "Orange" trying to fob me off just for a month {my contract is about to expire}
So are Telefonica who own O2.Orange have already been in negotiation with Apple and had success in winning the French bid i think they have a lot of clout! {they are massive}
This is precisely what Apple wanted, for reasons that have been explained on this forum many times. It is to their advantage. They are certainly not stupid.Re: O2 having Apple bound into a contract so tight ,i really can't imagine that "Apple" would be so stupid as to limit their business to one provider {there must be a clause in that contract?}.
Do you seriously think that you would get a better deal from Orange? Dream on.I think maybe O2 are living on a "Wing and a Prayer" and with the Lousy expensive deals they offer
You always have to watch out for the 'sour grapes syndrome', especially comments from people who actually can't afford one. This is a premium product for which you have to pay a premium price. If you don't want one, then don't part with your money.I have visited two O2 branches recently and seen people looking at the I-Phone and heard very negative comments when they look at the Tariffs available on top of having to pay for the I-Phone.
How many people have you seen queuing for any other mobile phone?.... nobody appeared to be queuing up for one.
I'm sure there will be disappointed people out there, which is a pity, but don't hold your breath waiting for it to be available free. It won't happen in the foreseeable future.If this is not freely available soon i think there will be an awful lot of disappointed people out there.
Does "APPLE" know that we are not fools over here? and will not be encouraged easily into moving to another mobile service provider offering poor deals just to get an I-Phone. I think they will have to wake up and realize we are a stubborn nation and will hang out until we get what we want !!!!!!!!!
Does "APPLE" know that we are not fools over here? and will not be encouraged easily into moving to another mobile service provider offering poor deals just to get an I-Phone. I think they will have to wake up and realize we are a stubborn nation and will hang out until we get what we want !!!!!!!!!
Perhaps they are hoping that you will change your mind over the next month.
So are Telefonica who own O2.
This is precisely what Apple wanted, for reasons that have been explained on this forum many times. It is to their advantage. They are certainly not stupid.
Do you seriously think that you would get a better deal from Orange? Dream on.
You always have to watch out for the 'sour grapes syndrome', especially comments from people who actually can't afford one. This is a premium product for which you have to pay a premium price. If you don't want one, then don't part with your money.
How many people have you seen queuing for any other mobile phone?
I'm sure there will be disappointed people out there, which is a pity, but don't hold your breath waiting for it to be available free. It won't happen in the foreseeable future.
Let's hope there's something in the EC fairness laws that can resolve this issue.
All very well But invoking the "Blitz spirit" ain't going to help you at all with Apple, Inc.![]()
I thought we lived in a Free country with the opportunity of Free speech?
The inference here is that those of us who have bought an iPhone and signed up with O2 are fools. If that is so, I can tell you that there are many thousands of happy fools in the U.K. already, and my guess is that there will be many thousands more over the coming weeks, particularly after Christmas.No fool here,so don't easily part with my bucks!
Nobody is trying to bully you. If you don't want an iPhone at the accepted price point, don't buy one. Simple as that.I'm a man of good principles and would not get bullied into getting something that i want unless i was fully happy with the deal,hope that makes sense to the sensible people out there,i'm sure it does!
There is nothing unfair about it. It's called commerce. If the iPhone doesn't do well enough at the present price and with the current tariffs, there will no doubt be a price adjustment. Wait for it if you want.Let's hope there's something in the EC fairness laws that can resolve this issue.
Have to disagree about Orange. Their customer service is woeful. I am on my 3rd Nokia N80 since last June. Phone or system keeps crashing, you wait hours to talk to Orange only to get an overseas call centre who haven't got the authority to make decisions. I am still awaiting a return call from 6 weeks ago - I just haven't got the time to sit & listen to their crappy messages & even crappier music. In addition, staff at their retail store just shrug their shoulders & tell you to contact CS. They take no responsibility for you as a customer once you've signed.
I'm excited about the iPhone but, if it is with Orange, I'd sooner go without.
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The inference here is that those of us who have bought an iPhone and signed up with O2 are fools. If that is so, I can tell you that there are many thousands of happy fools in the U.K. already, and my guess is that there will be many thousands more over the coming weeks, particularly after Christmas.
Nobody is trying to bully you. If you don't want an iPhone at the accepted price point, don't buy one. Simple as that.
There is nothing unfair about it. It's called commerce. If the iPhone doesn't do well enough at the present price and with the current tariffs, there will no doubt be a price adjustment. Wait for it if you want.
Well i did'nt sat anyone was a fool,just that i'm not a fool . Sorry you think that you might be one!
Sorry you think that you might be one!
You're right. It does keep it more exclusive. Look what happened to the V3 Razr: Very expensive, exclusive and special to begin with but eventually became as common as muck, available on PAYG for tuppence halfpenny!It really pleases me that there are people not willing to pay (read 'cant afford') the price that the iphone and contract are at, it makes me feel all special inside...
It really pleases me that there are people not willing to pay (read 'cant afford') the price that the iphone and contract are at, it makes me feel all special inside...
besides, £35 a week with wifi and unlimited data is not bad. £279 for ipod, web browser, phone and email is not bad either. and it comes with a solid glass screen - fancy that![]()
Now that might be tad expensive — even for Apple and O2!![]()
Whole heartedly agree with you there,even though i can afford it personally, i like to fight the corner of everyone out there who deserves the opportunity to enjoy this new marvel and i'm not budging on getting it on the current terms {other than an un-locked version,Uugh} until i see it fairly accessible to all.
I-Pod 80gb
I-Mac 2.8 ghz 24"
Macbook pro 2.4 ghz 17"
Macbook 2.2 ghz Black
Mercedes Benz CLS 63 amg Coupe, cubanite silver metallic.
LOLbesides, £35 a week with wifi and unlimited data is not bad.
Now that might be tad expensive — even for Apple and O2!![]()
Whole heartedly agree with you there,even though i can afford it personally, i like to fight the corner of everyone out there who deserves the opportunity to enjoy this new marvel and i'm not budging on getting it on the current terms {other than an un-locked version,Uugh} until i see it fairly accessible to all.
If you use a lot of data, the O2 tariffs are reasonable value for money. Having said that, I suppose that it is 'horses for courses' at the end of the day and some people obviously regard them as poor value.£35 per month I can live with and do![]()
Slight misunderstanding methinks I meant:£35 per WEEK is expensive £35 per month I can live with and do
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