Order iPhone 4S on added line and then cancel contract?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by SexyBeast, Oct 17, 2011.

  1. SexyBeast macrumors regular

    Jun 9, 2010
    So I have an iPhone 4 with Verizon. I thought about adding a line to my account and ordering the 4S. Then I would switch the 4 and 4S so the new phone will be on my current line. I would then sell the iPhone 4 and use that money to pay the early termination fee. Would this work? Also, if I was unable to sell the iPhone 4 immediately, could I activate a "dumb" phone on the new account and switch to a family plan so I wouldn't have to pay the data line charge while I am waiting to sell the iPhone 4? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
  2. callmemike20 macrumors 6502a


    Aug 21, 2007
    Why not just sell the iPhone 4 and use it to buy a iPhone 4s out of contract? The costs will be similar.
  3. SexyBeast thread starter macrumors regular

    Jun 9, 2010
    I don't want to pay $700 out of pocket immediately. I plan on getting a 16GB so that would actually be more expensive ($199 + $350 (ETF))
  4. skapple85 macrumors newbie

    Jun 5, 2011
    Yes you can do that but you'd lose your number.
  5. jgalan14 macrumors 6502

    Oct 11, 2011
    Well you need to pay a month of service it could be close to 100$ or more so at the end you paying the same , so that's your decision, and it will work , done it before btw
  6. skapple85 macrumors newbie

    Jun 5, 2011
    Although you could port it to a prepay acct with lets say ATT and then port it back after like 90 days to replace your temp number with the new IP4s.
  7. SexyBeast thread starter macrumors regular

    Jun 9, 2010
    How exactly? I'm adding a line to my current account, activating the 4S on the new line then switching it to the old line and canceling the new line.


    I would immediately switch to a family shared plan. I currently pay $59.99 for 900 min and $30 for data. The family plan is $69.99 for 700 min (more than enough, I just need more than 450 which is the next level down on the individual plans) and I'd pay $30 for the new line for data. Which is more like $40 extra. If I immediately put a "dumb" phone on the new account once everything is activated, could I avoid paying the data fee?
  8. whiskeyvol macrumors regular

    Mar 14, 2011
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    you might wanna verify if it's as simple as canceling the number. someone told me recently that AT&T has a new
    policy with added accts with iPhone where they make you keep the new line activated for a period of time (6mos?).

    in short, I think they're on to the scam
  9. SexyBeast thread starter macrumors regular

    Jun 9, 2010
    Anyone with Verizon know for sure?
  10. boshii, Oct 17, 2011
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2011

    boshii macrumors 68040


    Jul 6, 2008
    Atlanta, GA
    The data would be prorated (should you use any). Otherwise, yes you would avoid the data fee.


    That's untrue. I just did it with the 4S. I added a line, got the 4S, swapped sims, and put the included 4S sim in a dumbphone. I called AT&T and the dropped the data plan, no questions asked.

    EDIT: I may have misread your post. I didn't cancel the line. I'm just paying $10 a month extra for the freedom to upgrade my phone yearly.
  11. pezasied182 macrumors 6502

    Jun 3, 2011
    So, to be clear, you're saying your going to:

    1. Open a new Verizon line with a 4S.
    2. Transfer 4S to current Verizon line
    3. Sell iPhone 4 ~$300
    4. Pay ~$300 for ETF on new line.

    The one problem I find is √erizon MIGHT charge you more for your iPhone than the $200 it costs for a new contract. They're subsidizing $450 for the phone, so they'll want that back. One way or another, you'll end up paying full price for the phone.
  12. jenzjen macrumors 68000

    Aug 20, 2010
    Depending on where you live (craigslist, eBay), you'll be able to get a 16GB for 550-650.

    Verizon will charge you taxes, fees, etc on the 199 so it will be closer to 199 + ~50 + 350 = 600 right there.

    Like someone else wrote, the costs will be about the same +/- 50.
  13. SexyBeast thread starter macrumors regular

    Jun 9, 2010
    That's not a bad idea. I might do that.
  14. SexyBeast thread starter macrumors regular

    Jun 9, 2010
    I added the line with a Family Share plan and only pay $10 more per month. More than worth it to be upgrade eligible every year. Plus I paid $199 for my 4S and sold the 4 for $350!
  15. jenzjen macrumors 68000

    Aug 20, 2010
    How so? Details?

    I see the following for individual and family plans, so I don't see where it is just $10 different unless you downgraded from 900 to 700 minutes.

    450 $39.99
    900 $59.99
    Unlimited $69.99

    700 $69.98
    1400 $89.98
    2000 $99.98
    Unlimited $119.98
  16. alphaod macrumors Core


    Feb 9, 2008
    I doubt Verizon subsidizes $450. Seeing the parts on the iPhone is only $200 or so, I'm thinking they subsidize less than $200 a phone.
  17. FreakinEurekan macrumors 68040


    Sep 8, 2011
    Eureka Springs, Arkansas
    Or, he already had a family plan and added it as a 3rd line...
  18. shanmugam macrumors 68020


    Sep 24, 2008
    Blazer town!
    you are joking right? ASP aka the average selling price of the iPhone 4 for apple is about $625

    so apple get any where between $350 to $450 from ATT/Verizon/Sprint for each and every iPhone sold ...

    there is a article somewhere in the macrumors
  19. flyboy0 macrumors newbie

    May 3, 2011
    What the heck are all these idiots talking about?! This is possible. Ive done this before with Verizon.

    1. Add new line and purchase new 4S for 199, 299, etc, whichever model you're getting

    2. Switch new 4S to your line and put the 4 on the new line

    3a. Either switch the third line to a non-smart phone so you can sell the iphone 4 and it is ready to go for the new buyer

    3b. Pay the early termination fee (350), terminate the new line with the iphone 4 and then sell the 4.

    4. Costs? If you can sell the iphone 4 for at least 300, who knows, you might get more, but im just saying 300 to be safe.......if you can get 300, you'd be making up for most, if not all of the cost of the early termination fee and the only expenses you'd be looking at is the cost for the new iphone 4s ($199), tax/activation on new phone ($20).

    5. Trust me, ive done this before with the iphone 4. the only difference is, i kept the new line open for my sister. she is using a non-smart phone.
  20. dmusicman385 macrumors regular

    Oct 12, 2011
    New York
    Sprint would let you do this. I know that for a fact. Although I havn't done the cancel line part (I have 3 lines on a family plan), I have used the upgrade for one phone and then immediately transferred that phone to another line.
  21. chuffman15 macrumors regular

    Sep 30, 2011
    Martinsburg, WV
    i had 2 mytouch 4g's. ordered 2 iphone 4s's. sold the 2 mytouchs and my ipod touch to cover the new phones and my tmobile etf. (little pat on my back).
  22. SexyBeast thread starter macrumors regular

    Jun 9, 2010
    I had the 900 min ind plan for $59.99. I added the new line and switched to the family plan $69.99. I lose 200 min, but 700 is more than enough as I use about 550-600 per month. I switched the 4S to my primary line and put a non smart phone on the new line, so no data or text messaging plan needed. I pay $10 extra per month, however I am now eligible for an upgrade every year between the two lines. Since non-contact iPhones sell on craigslist for a premium, I will always have the new iPhone and will most likely never have to pay out of pocket for it.
  23. Sirmausalot macrumors 6502a


    Sep 1, 2007
    If you order an iPhone on your existing line and agree to two years more, can you then go back to your dumb phone and cancel the data plan then do what you want with the iPhone?
  24. 305rob305 macrumors member

    Jun 29, 2011
    I just don't understand... If you add another line to your family plan you will have to pay $10 plus $30 for data... In the end you have to pay $40 extra
  25. 305rob305 macrumors member

    Jun 29, 2011
    But you can't do that... The carrier has you under a contract with both the iphone 4 and 4S which requires a data plan..? You can't just drop an iphone under contract and put a dumbphone...

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