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Here's a video of the UMPC from Channel 9.

The best part is when Scoble asks him about battery life and gets the 'uh, well, you know, it's, uh, different partners, uh, you know different configs, so, um...well yeah' :D

We are looking at a 2 pound monstrosity that gets 2-3 hours of battery life.
Jack of all, Master of none...
 
treblah said:
Here's a video of the UMPC from Channel 9.

The best part is when Scoble asks him about battery life and gets the 'uh, well, you know, it's, uh, different partners, uh, you know different configs, so, um...well yeah' :D

We are looking at a 2 pound monstrosity that gets 2-3 hours of battery life.
Jack of all, Master of none...

I'm not 100% certain that 2 pounds counts as a monstrosity. It's 7" large, they size I've been wanting forever.

The battery life sucks.. yeh, for sure.
 
cr2sh said:
I'm not 100% certain that 2 pounds counts as a monstrosity. It's 7" large, they size I've been wanting forever.

Compared to the 'form factor we want to see in a few generations' from the video, it is a monstrosity. ;)
 
Bubbasteve said:
I think this is a great idea... of course I would prefer Apple's version of it, but great none the less.

I agree, I'm pretty excited about a small device that's bigger than a PDA but will allow for GPS, etc...sure it isn't as pretty as a Apple product but who knows if sales of these devices are good this may encourage Apple to build a similar device.
 
But what niche does it fill? Between a Treo and a laptop you've got all the functionality in more efficient form factors. It seems to me that if you need anything more than a Treo can provide having a full-fledged laptop would be more convenient than trying to use this Origami thing.
 
I don't know what to say, I guess the sales will tell if there's a market for UMPC's, right now I wouldn't buy one, even if it was made by apple. I'm currently more interested in the Macbook
 
Hmmm... I'm sure some will find pupose for this device - but personnally? I bought myself a PDA - used it for a few months, and now its gong up on ebay. Very nice, just I didn't find I needed it. This device doesn't seem to have many benefits over a PDA - yet it's not pocketable.
 
While I agree that there is potential, I just don't see a market right now. The biggest hurdle is the 3 hour battery life. If this is suppose to replace my iPod, PDA, and other such devices, than 3 hours will not cut it. Furthermore, this essentially is the evolution of the Tablet PC. They have never found a market beyond niche (not even niche really) for whatever reasons. I'm not saying it's going to fail, I can't predict that, but I don't understand the big splash it has made in the media.
 
I like it in some ways, but it's the wrong compromise! I want the best of both worlds (power and portability) not the worst! This is less powerful/usable than a convertible tablet/notebook, with a much smaller screen, yet lacks the portability of a PDA. May as well carry a subnotebook (only slightly larger and equally pocketable--meaning NOT) and be able to type and use keyboard shortcuts.

Plus battery life on these seems to be poor--when they really need BETTER life than a laptop. A laptop is often used near an outlet anyway. But something ultraportable and able to be used while standing begs to be used anywhere, anytime. Preferrably without having to think about charging every 3 hours.
I personally DO want a semi-pocketable, fully-capable computer, despite the screen/input sacrifices that would be entailed. (Whether that means handwriting-recognition or just a very tiny keyboard--a super-subnotebook sounds fine to me.)

My reason is, I can't always PREDICT when I'll need/want my PowerBook.
To show some photos, play a game, email a contract, or make emergency changes on a client's web site. So I end up a lot of the time not having my Mac with me when I need/want it. Conversely, I often end up lugging the thing around and not using it! Either way, I lose.

I avoided the same dilemma with a digital camera--I knew if I got a big one I wouldn't have it with me when I wanted to take a picture. So I got a really tiny one with full-size features (Pentax Optio S). I want the same option in a computer. I want it small enough that I always (or nearly) have it with me, without it being a burden. And I want it capable enough to do just about anything--maybe not well (that would demand more speed, bigger screen, full keyboard, etc.)--but it can DO what I need. That's so much better than nothing!

And if I can connect any old display and keyboard to it, I'd magically have a full-size Mac at most places I visit anyway. Not THAT's the best of both worlds.

These Origami devices, though, are not remotely pocketable. Even just a SLIGHTLY smaller screen... and make the casing NOT significantly bigger than the screen... would make a couple inches difference. Like a Newton form factor.

And of course I'd demand OS X :)

Now, just because I want a 6" screen doesn't mean the market is large. But it is POSSIBLE to create successful new categories sometimes, and I think the market could grow if the product were done right (and priced right). This thing looks like it's too much of a compromise to be the groundbreaker with success beyond what other tablets have managed.
 
Thanatoast said:
Unless there's a cell antenna on there that I'm not seeing, I don't think this will go anywhere. Hmmm. An extra-large PDA that won't fit in my pocket and doesn't replace my cell phone? I don't think so. I'd sooner get a treo.

When did you last see a mobile phone with an external aerial?

That said, this thing appears to have a telescopic aerial like on an old FM radio. Anyone know what that's for? :confused:
 
Well, it's nothing terribly new. The OQO got there before them for hardware but the Microsoft 'Touchpack' is the important addition. That and the price of these is so much cheaper if those prices are to be believed.

I'd still rather have an OQO, just because these UMPCs are bigger, uglier and have all the design prowess of my microwave oven.

I wonder what OQO will do now. They're looking even more like a premium product after this. The Touchpack on an OQO would be nice. OSX on the OQO would be nicer though. Go on Apple, Buy OQO.
 
Just imagin if apple came out with one of these...iPod like, a little thicker than an iPod and slightly smaller demensions than these origami things, with an iTablet version of OS X...omg id buy one in an instant.
 
kwajo.com said:
so why should I trade in my Newton from 11 YEARS AGO for this? :p

Because there's actually software for Origami? I had a Newton for a long time, too, and it didn't even have a decent browser.
 
I've been pretty disappointed with the regular tablet PC I have. It works great as a conventional laptop, but in tablet mode, things get pretty dicey. Lots of uninteded operations, awkward presentations, and other annoyances. I don't think this new device makes any improvements over what I already have, other than its compact size. I'm not expecting much success in the market for this thing.
 
I don't understand why you all are complaining so much.

I think it is a very attractive, sleek AM radio/fish-finder sonar combo, maybe the best I've ever seen.

Three hours is plenty long enough for a fishing trip--wasn't that the supposed length of the boat tour before the castaways were stranded on Gilligan's Island? I'm sure it can play Limbaugh on your local talk station in glorious monophonic sound while you're kickin' back, downin' the suds.

Running XP, those crappies and muskies don't stand a chance.

Viva Oragami! Perfect companion for the Popeil's Pocket Fisherman!
(similar scale and design sophistication!)
 
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