Original iPhone backers got a 100$ credit when the prices were dropped, we get nothing?

[Totally]

QYB son. QYB.

You should have returned the device if it wasn't worth the price you paid. Apple is generous with their return policy.

Q. Y. B.

 

[MultiFinder17]

The reason they gave the refund with the iPhone is because the price was dropped by $200 just over two months after its release. A 33% price drop ($599 --> $399) after two months deserves a bit of money back. A 14% price drop ($349 --> $299) after eleven months does not.

 

[jasie02]

If you don't buy AW, you will save $350+, even better deal!

No one need AW, but lots of us want it.

 

[The Doctor11]

I definitely got that $50 worth out of my watch over the past year so I see no problem here. And Apple didn't drop the price because it was overpriced, it's to either boost sales or because they can produce them for less.

 

[iZac]

Good point. Perhaps I am(reaching), but the original iPhone worked much better than my watch ever did, and probably ever will. In comparison, the iPhone was, for its time, marvellous piece of tech, that worked decently and did what it was meant to do.

 Watch feels half baked, update after update.

I know the usability and fluidity of the iPhone was revolutionary compared to the other smartphones at the time, but you have to agree a smartphone with extensive internet capabilities and only 2G was unforgivable, even back in 2007.

No App Store either, Stevie J wanted to force developers to make little web apps. In your heart you have to remember how vitriolic the community was over those things. We all have rose tinted spectacles over these things we remember so fondly.

Perhaps you'll feel the same way in 9 years when looking back on your first Apple Watch.

 

[8692574]

When Apple realized in 2007 that they had overpriced the iPhone they sent every early backer a 100$ credit. Same scenario a few years later and we get nothing?

I know fellow forum members will say that I accepted to pay this price, but lets all just agree to say this device definitely felt like a first generation and still does to some extent. I really want to back you up Apple! But please don't screw over the ones who give you those impressive "first day" sales numbers, we're the real deal.

Instead I really feel like a guinea pig, one who paid the premium price and still can't get ⅔ of his 3rd party apps running properly.

Hopefully Apple doesn't deceive us once more, I am hoping for decent upgrade program when  Watch 2 comes out.

Source:
http://www.cnet.com/news/steve-jobs...ne-customers-re-price-drop-offers-100-credit/

That happened cause they lowered the price very soon!! Also I don't feel my AppleWatch is half as bad as it is for you.... it served me well so far and does everything it was advertized.


Also worth quoting the article:
"Second, being in technology for 30 years I can attest to the fact that the technology road is bumpy. There is always change and improvement, and there is always someone who bought a product before a particular cutoff date and misses the new price or the new operating system or the new whatever. This is life in the technology lane. If you always wait for the next price cut or to buy the new improved model, you'll never buy any technology product because there is always something better and less expensive on the horizon. The good news is that if you buy products from companies that support them well, like Apple tries to do, you will receive years of useful and satisfying service from them even as newer models are introduced."


And last but not least if they gave you 50 bucks back, would that make your "awful" experience less awful or are you just trying to cash in....???


EDIT:
You say "lets all just agree to say this device definitely felt like a first generation and still does to some extent" well it feels like first gen because it IS first gen and we all knew it when we bought it....

 

[mildocjr]

You're talking about this like it's just another Apple device though. You said it yourself, $10,000 models. Those are just going to become useless once the batteries give? No way, Jose.

Yes, I think that there will be other generations of watches, Apple has a pulse ox. in the Apple Watch but turned the feature off because they couldn't get it working correctly before launch. The ability to read blood pressure also came up a few months after it released. Tell me that you honestly believe that an Apple Watch will last as long as a Rolex. That one day you will hand your watch down to your kid. It's not happening for anyone, which is why $10,000 is unjustifiable. The last computer to my knowledge to make it 20 years in a constant on state was a 1970 mainframe, and that still required replacement parts. At the end of the day the watch is not a mechanical watch with a perpetual dial, but a computer, and at the end of the day, I'm still counting on another generation of Apple Watch to come out by WWDC.

 

[8692574]

Yes, I think that there will be other generations of watches, Apple has a pulse ox. in the Apple Watch but turned the feature off because they couldn't get it working correctly before launch. The ability to read blood pressure also came up a few months after it released. Tell me that you honestly believe that an Apple Watch will last as long as a Rolex. That one day you will hand your watch down to your kid. It's not happening for anyone, which is why $10,000 is unjustifiable. The last computer to my knowledge to make it 20 years in a constant on state was a 1970 mainframe, and that still required replacement parts. At the end of the day the watch is not a mechanical watch with a perpetual dial, but a computer, and at the end of the day, I'm still counting on another generation of Apple Watch to come out by WWDC.

They might offer internal upgrades for the 10000 version

 

[mildocjr]

They might offer internal upgrades for the 10000 version

because they've provided internal upgrades for the 2013 12-core Mac Pro buyers?

 

[IphoneIssues]

Yes, I think that there will be other generations of watches, Apple has a pulse ox. in the Apple Watch but turned the feature off because they couldn't get it working correctly before launch. The ability to read blood pressure also came up a few months after it released. Tell me that you honestly believe that an Apple Watch will last as long as a Rolex. That one day you will hand your watch down to your kid. It's not happening for anyone, which is why $10,000 is unjustifiable. The last computer to my knowledge to make it 20 years in a constant on state was a 1970 mainframe, and that still required replacement parts. At the end of the day the watch is not a mechanical watch with a perpetual dial, but a computer, and at the end of the day, I'm still counting on another generation of Apple Watch to come out by WWDC.

As I said, the $10,000 watch is not going to become useless once it dies. It's silly to think so. Apple actually cares about their image, and they try to avoid screwing people as much as possible. Not going to happen. Just like there's not going to be a new watch next month or in September.

 

[dukebound85]

When Apple realized in 2007 that they had overpriced the iPhone they sent every early backer a 100$ credit. Same scenario a few years later and we get nothing?

I know fellow forum members will say that I accepted to pay this price, but lets all just agree to say this device definitely felt like a first generation and still does to some extent. I really want to back you up Apple! But please don't screw over the ones who give you those impressive "first day" sales numbers, we're the real deal.

Instead I really feel like a guinea pig, one who paid the premium price and still can't get ⅔ of his 3rd party apps running properly.

Hopefully Apple doesn't deceive us once more, I am hoping for decent upgrade program when  Watch 2 comes out.

Source:
http://www.cnet.com/news/steve-jobs...ne-customers-re-price-drop-offers-100-credit/

The watch has been out a year. You obviously thought it was worth the price. You knew it was a first gen. What are you blabbering about?

 

[mildocjr]

Apple actually cares about their image, and they try to avoid screwing people as much as possible.

Then why are they selling us AMD dedicated GPUs?

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

As I said, the $10,000 watch is not going to become useless once it dies. It's silly to think so. Apple actually cares about their image, and they try to avoid screwing people as much as possible. Not going to happen. Just like there's not going to be a new watch next month or in September.

They might offer internal upgrades for the 10000 version

You're forgetting who the target customers are. They drop $30,000 during a shopping spree on a lazy weekday and think nothing of it, and can well afford a new Edition on a yearly basis. Additionally, nothing screams "I have money" more than shelling out $10-17k on a watch that'll become obsolete in a few short years. People who normally save up a few months paychecks to afford a $10k Rolex and expect it to last a lifetime aren't who Apple is marketing the Edition to.

 

[mildocjr]

People who normally save up a few months paychecks to afford a $10k Rolex and expect it to last a lifetime aren't who Apple is marketing the Edition to.

Is this place hiring? 10k in a few months is a much better deal than what I've got right now.

 

[8692574]

because they've provided internal upgrades for the 2013 12-core Mac Pro buyers?

2 complete different market, one is a pro machine that you buy to make money, the other is a piece of jewellery so yes I expect those to be treated differently.

EDIT:
Not that I care I don't have one, but I am sure they thought about that when they started selling a 10K watch!
Will they do it? I don't know, but they sure tought about that.

 

[mildocjr]

2 complete different market, one is a pro machine that you buy to make money, the other is a piece of jewellery so yes I expect those to be treated differently.

Well let's have a look at wearables, does the Fitbit have upgrades? What about android wear? Both of those have been in the market way longer than the Apple Watch. The apple watch runs a version of iOS same as the iPad and the iPhone, the bands are interchangeable. At the heart of a Rolex is a bunch of gears and a quartz, at the heart of an Apple Watch is a processor and ram.

The likelihood of your scenario happening with Apple's track record of putting devices on the legacy list, is about the same chance as a high school dropout with no family and 3 kids working at McDonalds buying a brand new Bentley Continental GT at 19 years old.

Regardless if you want to call it jewelry or not is beyond the point and the fact still stands that the Apple Watch is a product made by Apple. Even if they wait 2 years to upgrade the watch, Watch OS support for the device goes out 3 years after the product is initially released and Apple support will no longer work on the device if it is over 5 years old. It is considered vintage. Since the first watch missed support for pulse o2 and blood pressure readings, I'm comfortable saying they are going to release a second generation this year, stopping the production of the original Apple Watch and starting the counter for the 5 year legacy product support.

Apple may be known for it's great product support, but it is definitely not known for keeping a device's generation around for 10+ years. Even the iPod classic underwent changes throughout it's lifecycle. As for making comparisons, the apple watch is a lot closer to a computer in it's likeness than a piece of jewelry.

 

[NT1440]

When Apple realized in 2007 that they had overpriced the iPhone they sent every early backer a 100$ credit. Same scenario a few years later and we get nothing?

I know fellow forum members will say that I accepted to pay this price, but lets all just agree to say this device definitely felt like a first generation and still does to some extent. I really want to back you up Apple! But please don't screw over the ones who give you those impressive "first day" sales numbers, we're the real deal.

Instead I really feel like a guinea pig, one who paid the premium price and still can't get ⅔ of his 3rd party apps running properly.

Hopefully Apple doesn't deceive us once more, I am hoping for decent upgrade program when  Watch 2 comes out.

Source:
http://www.cnet.com/news/steve-jobs...ne-customers-re-price-drop-offers-100-credit/

I've had my watch for a whole year, why in god's name would I be entitled to a partial refund?

 

[8692574]

Well let's have a look at wearables, does the Fitbit have upgrades? What about android wear? Both of those have been in the market way longer than the Apple Watch. The apple watch runs a version of iOS same as the iPad and the iPhone, the bands are interchangeable. At the heart of a Rolex is a bunch of gears and a quartz, at the heart of an Apple Watch is a processor and ram.

The likelihood of your scenario happening with Apple's track record of putting devices on the legacy list, is about the same chance as a high school dropout with no family and 3 kids working at McDonalds buying a brand new Bentley Continental GT at 19 years old.

Regardless if you want to call it jewelry or not is beyond the point and the fact still stands that the Apple Watch is a product made by Apple. Even if they wait 2 years to upgrade the watch, Watch OS support for the device goes out 3 years after the product is initially released and Apple support will no longer work on the device if it is over 5 years old. It is considered vintage. Since the first watch missed support for pulse o2 and blood pressure readings, I'm comfortable saying they are going to release a second generation this year, stopping the production of the original Apple Watch and starting the counter for the 5 year legacy product support.

Apple may be known for it's great product support, but it is definitely not known for keeping a device's generation around for 10+ years. Even the iPod classic underwent changes throughout it's lifecycle. As for making comparisons, the apple watch is a lot closer to a computer in it's likeness than a piece of jewelry.

At this point is all speculation, your comparison with androidwear makes no sense ....one is a 10K watch the other a 200....

As i said they MIGHT give update internals to the top tier so the watch os could very well run... but again 1st is speculation 2nd I could care less as i do not have that kinda money and if i had it would be the least of my concern

EDIT:
I never said the same HW would be supported, but an updated internal offered to the top tier model....you are putting words in my mouth i never said......and if you read my post i also said do i think it will happen?? i said they MIGHT (strong word my friend as per wiki
The verb may expresses possibility in either an epistemic or deontic sense, that is, in terms of possible circumstance or permissibility. For example:

• The mouse might be dead means that it is possible that the mouse is dead)

Let's not be always negative!

 

[IphoneIssues]

At this point is all speculation, your comparison with androidwear makes no sense ....one is a 10K watch the other a 200....

As i said they MIGHT give update internals to the top tier so the watch os could very well run... but again 1st is speculation 2nd I could care less as i do not have that kinda money and if i had it would be the least of my concern

EDIT:
I never said the same HW would be supported, but an updated internal offered to the top tier model....you are putting words in my mouth i never said......and if you read my post i also said do i think it will happen?? i said they MIGHT (strong word my friend as per wiki
The verb may expresses possibility in either an epistemic or deontic sense, that is, in terms of possible circumstance or permissibility. For example:

• The mouse might be dead means that it is possible that the mouse is dead)

Let's not be always negative!

He doesn't understand that we're talking about a watch, which is meant to be fashion-focused...

 

[mildocjr]

He doesn't understand that we're talking about a watch, which is meant to be fashion-focused...

Both of you, seriously, do you think Apple would say, hey sure send us your watch we'll update the hardware that has changed? They won't do that, it's like someone said previously, the $10,000 is for the 1% who can afford to burn that kind of money without batting an eye.

 

[matrix07]

When Apple realized in 2007 that they had overpriced the iPhone they sent every early backer a 100$ credit. Same scenario a few years later and we get nothing?

I know fellow forum members will say that I accepted to pay this price, but lets all just agree to say this device definitely felt like a first generation and still does to some extent. I really want to back you up Apple! But please don't screw over the ones who give you those impressive "first day" sales numbers, we're the real deal.

Instead I really feel like a guinea pig, one who paid the premium price and still can't get ⅔ of his 3rd party apps running properly.

Hopefully Apple doesn't deceive us once more, I am hoping for decent upgrade program when  Watch 2 comes out.

Source:
http://www.cnet.com/news/steve-jobs...ne-customers-re-price-drop-offers-100-credit/

AW price drop after one year, same for every iPhone models every year. It's just a nature of tech world.

 

[mildocjr]

At this point is all speculation, your comparison with androidwear makes no sense ....one is a 10K watch the other a 200....

As i said they MIGHT give update internals to the top tier so the watch os could very well run... but again 1st is speculation 2nd I could care less as i do not have that kinda money and if i had it would be the least of my concern

EDIT:
I never said the same HW would be supported, but an updated internal offered to the top tier model....you are putting words in my mouth i never said......and if you read my post i also said do i think it will happen?? i said they MIGHT (strong word my friend as per wiki
The verb may expresses possibility in either an epistemic or deontic sense, that is, in terms of possible circumstance or permissibility. For example:

• The mouse might be dead means that it is possible that the mouse is dead)

Let's not be always negative!

Hate to say I might be right but https://www.macrumors.com/2016/04/08/apple-watch-2-debut-wwdc-june-brian-white/

 

[caligurl]

If you don't buy AW, you will save $350+, even better deal!

No one need AW, but lots of us want it.

i want TWO! (actually.... i want 3 but i'll settle for 2!)

 

[AZhappyjack]

When Apple realized in 2007 that they had overpriced the iPhone they sent every early backer a 100$ credit. Same scenario a few years later and we get nothing?

I know fellow forum members will say that I accepted to pay this price, but lets all just agree to say this device definitely felt like a first generation and still does to some extent. I really want to back you up Apple! But please don't screw over the ones who give you those impressive "first day" sales numbers, we're the real deal.

Instead I really feel like a guinea pig, one who paid the premium price and still can't get ⅔ of his 3rd party apps running properly.

Hopefully Apple doesn't deceive us once more, I am hoping for decent upgrade program when  Watch 2 comes out.

Source:
http://www.cnet.com/news/steve-jobs...ne-customers-re-price-drop-offers-100-credit/

Quick, somebody, call a whaaaa-mbulance.

 

[Fry-man22]

Hopefully Apple doesn't deceive us once more, I am hoping for decent upgrade program when  Watch 2 comes out.

The iPhone price drop was $200 and it happened within 60 DAYS of release. That's 33% in 2 months - a massive different that happened fast. The Watch price drop was $50 almost a YEAR after it was announced. That's 13% in 12 months - a slight adjustment across a time period where manufacturing cost could have dropped.

I bought the first gen iPhone at $600 and it was every bit worth it compared to the tech of the day, the $100 was a nice bonus but in no way was it setting a precedent. Even if it was, that precedent does not apply here since the time is greater and the price drop is less.

The upgrade program will likely be sell your watch and buy another one, and that is totally fine. While that may may you complain; that's life. Things depreciate. If you don't like that then buy diamonds or gold instead of tech.