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So that Samsung you mentioned isn't EOL either.

I didn't mention any model of Samsung but I have a Galaxy Note 2 and a Galaxy S2X and don't expect any more software updates for either of them since they don't support hardware past 9-12 months most of the time.
 
iPad 3 - 7 months.

Nope. You are falsely assuming that items stop working the moment a new model is released. They don't. Nor does Apple stop servicing them at that point, because they don't.

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In other news, the 2012 Mac Pro is obsolete and it's still in the stores.

Not in the context of this article. 'Obsolete' is in this case is a legal designation for being potentially SOL if you need service on it. Because at that point, the requirement to produce the parts needed to service the item has ended.
 
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The original iPhone will soon be considered obsolete in Apple Retail Stores according to an internal Apple document shared by 9to5Mac. Products considered 'obsolete' are ineligible for service parts and documentation at retail stores and cannot be repaired at mail-in AppleCare Repair Centers.

I've seen this happen with my old iPod (2003 vintage). I have to hook it up to an equally obsolete (and unpleasantly heavy!) MacBook to use the Old Skool Firewire port to charge it. In the glove box of the car, where it usually lives nowadays, it draws enough power to run, but the battery slowly goes to nothing. Sic transit gloria mundi.

I wonder if I shouldn't put my first iPhone (a 3G, not an Original, I must admit) on my technology altar between my two Cubes. I thought that design was just too cool. Pity they didn't work out.

I think the iPhone/iPod solution is to finally put a Bluetooth-capable radio in the car! ;)

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Apple typically makes products 'obsolete' or 'vintage' five years after they are discontinued, though there are some exceptions where required by law. The original iPhone went on sale in June 2007 and was discontinued in July 2008 when the iPhone 3G was released.

Other Apple products that will be considered 'vintage' as of June 11, 2013 include the mid-2007 models of the iMac, the late 2006 model Xserve, and the original Mac Pro. 9to5Mac has the list of newly minted vintage and obsolete products, while Apple maintains a list of all products named vintage or obsolete going back to the Apple II.

Article Link: Original iPhone Will Soon Be 'Obsolete' In Apple Retail Stores

That list will be a hoot to check out. The sad fact that all things eventually pass into obsolescence or death is a part of life, but it is kind of amazing to look back at all those products, both revolutionary and evolutionary, and think about the influence Apple has had on consumer technology (either on its own or by proxy through Microsoft and Samsung).
 
"But I'm still using an original iPhone..." - no one sane in 2012-2013.

I am. 8GB iPhone 1.
So I am in a little pickle over this. But if the phone dies I'll probably just buy a cheap 4S or something. I don't want to cause I hate to replace phones that are still working. But I guess I must.

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The problem with the Tim Cook bashing is that you don't seem to understand how CEOs really work. Steve Jobs was an exception. The CEO isn't supposed to innovate. They're supposed to run the day-to-day business end of things. Cook is perfect for what he's supposed to be doing. It's Jonny Ive's job to innovate.

Steve was an exception. But maybe it is one of the reasons why Apple is where it is today. Because of this exception of a CEO.
 
I think a few people need to take off their rose tinted glasses. It was utterly gimped thanks to lack of 3G connectivity. I couldn't contemplate buying one as I had been using 3G for a few years before the iPhone launched.

I agree. That's why, as cool as thought my buddy's Original iPhone was, I waited to make the 3G my first iPhone. Since then, however, I don't think there will be another brand of phone in my pocket. My real interest was travel capability in Europe, which 3G would provide.

That lack of 3G capability, however, did not make the Original iPhone any less revolutionary. It put my Treo 650 to shame. Whether or not this is pathetic I cannot say, but the iPhone has materially changed my life. (It doesn't help/hurt that I am an Apple investor.)

Does that make my glasses green?
 
I am. 8GB iPhone 1.
So I am in a little pickle over this. But if the phone dies I'll probably just buy a cheap 4S or something. I don't want to cause I hate to replace phones that are still working. But I guess I must.

Ummm...if it dies then it is not still working... no?
 
The problem with the Tim Cook bashing is that you don't seem to understand how CEOs really work. Steve Jobs was an exception. The CEO isn't supposed to innovate. They're supposed to run the day-to-day business end of things. Cook is perfect for what he's supposed to be doing. It's Jonny Ive's job to innovate.

Steve Jobs was an exception and Apple is an exception. You can't deny that Steve had a lot to do with inspiring and forging the success of Apple.

I think the Tim bashing is warranted. He seems to just be filling the seat. Not very inspirational and just overall very blah. We hear "Steve would never allow this" all the time and often, it's a valid argument.
 
, while "consumer protection laws" tend to hurt everyone

Not really, thanks to the way they are written. CP laws don't deal with warranty requirements so much as lemons, ie selling something known or suspected as being crap quality to unsuspecting buyers. The outcomes fall back on the retailer and outside of like 3 countries in East Europe after six months the buyer has to prove the issue was present at time of purchase. Which is almost impossible since they would need a service record to have any kind of proof and that would have likely fixed the issue via service etc. Without that record it's easier for the seller to say (for example) 'you waited 14 months to come in so you really want me to believe that your phone couldn't make any phone calls during that time. Prove it to a judge' and not be dinged for it. Even in Italy

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Parts for it, yes.

Yes and no. Once something reaches this level they don't have to have and often don't have the parts in store. They just have to have the means to get them

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Explain why not. If it still works, why wouldn't you use it?

It would be slow as hell on the Internet and have few apps but if you were looking for a phone that is just a phone and maybe a music player, why not.

I think if Apple were to ever make a 'cheap' iPhone that would be the way to do it. Make one that is basically a flip phone in uses but with the touch screen etc. for those sorts of folks that buy an iPhone, iPhone 3G and use it for 5 years and then don't really want to buy a new one cause they don't need all that fancy stuff.
 
Ummm...if it dies then it is not still working... no?

Of cause. You are right. But my point is the reason I still have the iPhone 1 is because it is still working. And working very well.

This is a pic of the front and back of the iPhone. Bad pics but it still works just fine. Has been kept in a case for most of it's life.

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Ohh I remember going to the Apple store on my birthday to buy one without any contract, my friends all got me Apple gift cards that year awww. I still have one in a drawer but it has some scratches on the back from the stupid slider Incase. I wish the backs could be replaced easily :D
 
I think a few people need to take off their rose tinted glasses. It was utterly gimped thanks to lack of 3G connectivity. I couldn't contemplate buying one as I had been using 3G for a few years before the iPhone launched.

The iPhone was still revolutionary in design, but the "2G" almost felt like a prototype. The 3G really got things rolling.
 
I am. 8GB iPhone 1.
So I am in a little pickle over this. But if the phone dies I'll probably just buy a cheap 4S or something. I don't want to cause I hate to replace phones that are still working. But I guess I must.

Why not get a new *free* iPhone and use your museum piece as an iPod?

Might be some other great uses for an old iPhone too.
 
I have the original iPhone which I purchased the day after launch in the UK back in November 2007. I've yet to upgrade and have used the phone every day since, I think it may only have been turned off for a maximum of a few hours at a time for things like exams many years ago.

Some of the more amusing moments recently have been when people ask if it's the new iPhone, I guess they had forgotten what the 2G looked like.

The only part thats failed on the phone is the headset which I had replaced once under warranty, the current one has also stopped working. The phone has also never been in a case, though I've been careful with it over the years, so it's still in good condition, no scratches on the screen and only one hard to see dent on the back. The chrome strip around the screen is looking a little worn though.

So whats it like for my day to day use.

Phone Calls - Works fine
Text Messages - Works fine
Email - Works fine
Web Browsing - Slow, but if you can wait its fine
Camera - Low quality, no video
Calendar - No sync services for it anymore so I sync via iTunes
Contacts - No sync services for it anymore so I sync via iTunes
Music - Works fine, can listen to music for quite a few hours.
Movies - Plays back standard def videos fine, playback lasts a few hours
Games - Angry Birds, Star Defense, Zenonia, Zen Bound, Galaxy on Fire, Monkey Ball and others play fine though some are a little slow. Can only play for around an hour or so on the battery.
Updates and New Applications - There are none available, make sure not to auto update the apps in iTunes.

Overall its slow and there are no new apps or updates for it, but it still works fine. The most frustrating thing is that older versions of the apps are not available so apps that used to work fine on it can no longer be purchased or downloaded for it.
The battery life is still not bad, I leave everything turned on (WiFi, Bluetooth, Location, Notifications), and charge the phone at night so it's good for the next day. Though this isn't completely necessary as it will run for a good few days of light usage.
The lack of 3G is annoying but most places I go have WiFi. The lack of GPS is another issue, though not one that I'm that bothered by.

As well as the original iPhone I also have an Apple Bluetooth Headset to go with it, the battery life on the headset isn't that great any more but it does the job, though I rarely use it.


When I first bought the phone I said I would use it until it broke, was lost, or the battery life became so bad that it's unusable. It isn't that time yet though probably soon it will be. I've watched the release of every new iPhone since, where I've been pretty excited to see it but decided not to buy as it either wasn't a big enough change (the earlier models) or was out of my budget especially as my phone still works (newer models).

Folks like me take our hats off to you sir!! :)
 
It's considered "vintage" by Apple five years after sales are discontinued.
It's considered "obsolete" by Apple seven years after sales are discontinue.

That last bit is only where required by law, otherwise they are obsolete at five

UK consumer law says that any possible obligation between seller and purchaser dies six years after purchase

Which is different than the manufacturer obligation. And if UK law is like many other areas its on the purchaser to prove there was an issue when they bought it but only six years later did it present, which they won't likely be able to do. So that six year thing is rather moot

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I think the Tim bashing is warranted. He seems to just be filling the seat. Not very inspirational and just overall very blah.

Which forces the media to to focus on the products not the razor dazzle man. Too much focus on Steve is why the stock got down to under $100 when folks just thought he was sick (but it wasn't yet confirmed)

We hear "Steve would never allow this" all the time and often, it's a valid argument.

Nope, almost never. Because a good 99% of the time it's just folks saying it about somethng they don't like with no idea if Steve did or didn't. Remember tech takes time, we could be seeing things Steve did on some level for another 10 years.

About the only time someone has said 'Steve would never' and it was correct was firing alleged total asshat Scott Forstall. Apparently he'd been an issue for folks for a while but Steve wouldn't listen.

And in the end what Steve would or wouldn't is moot, the man is dead. It's not his company anymore
 
Why not get a new *free* iPhone and use your museum piece as an iPod?

Might be some other great uses for an old iPhone too.

I already own an iPod. 5th gen video one. That I use sometimes. The other times I like to go out without just to enjoy the scenery and surrounds. And to write in my pad. Yes pen and paper.

Also that is free "with a contract". I do not really want a contract like this. Hence I still use my "museum piece" as a phone.

Good uses for an old iPhone?

1. Alarm clock
2. iPod
3. Clock
4. Paper weight
5. Display cabinet piece.
etc etc
 
Original iPhone Will Soon Be 'Obsolete' In Apple Retail Stores:

So it joins the current MacPro I guess...
 

When I eventually upgrade to a new phone this is likely what will become of mine, assuming its not lost or broken. It will hopefully live out the rest of its days as a nice looking desk clock (I even grabbed the app "Flip Clock" for this many years ago when they were still available). :D

Though like I said in my pervious post, it's not about to be relegated to clock duty just yet.
 

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I still use the original iPhone as my main phone. The biggest drawbacks being no picture texts and haven't been able to download any new apps/updates for 2 years now.

But it still works perfectly and gets lots of compliments from people who thought they were extinct. I have only replaced the battery once, and it holds a charge for 1-2 days of regular use. It's a real testament to Apple that an everyday phone can hold up for 6 years or more.

I have unlimited data through ATT, but apparently am not eligible for unlimited data on a new iPhone if I were to upgrade :mad:
 
Do you mean OEM parts straight from IBM or sold by 3rd parties, because that is a huge difference here (you could probably still find OEM Apple II parts through third parties). Especially considering IBM no longer makes ThinkPads (Leveno now makes them).


Out of curiosity, do you still use the laptop? I can't imagine it having much practical use anymore.



We have went to the moon with unmanned probes since then, it is possible that they had ThinkPad's in them but I don't know for certain.
Both IBM & Lenovo carry parts.

I've been using ThinkPads right out of college, as well PowerBooks concurrently then, as well as ThinkPads & MBP's now. I upgrade at each refresh so, no I don't use the 700c on a regular basis, but I do keep it in working order just for fun since it was my first, much like I keep my first PowerBook 170 in working order.
 
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