OS upgrades - has it always been this way?

[iThinkergoiMac]

First of all, Lion has made some major changes. Everything is now 64 bit. Any program that is not 64 bit is going to have running problems.

I'm running plenty of 32-bit applications with no issues. 32-bit applications run perfectly fine on Lion. If it doesn't, the issue is elsewhere, not with the application's bit-ness.

Secondly, Lion has really boosted its graphics requirements. Sure you can run it with a slow graphics card, but you may not like it.

Again, running Lion with a GMA X3100. Terrible graphics card. Some animations are a little slow, but nothing that's a big deal.

Those people who report no problems WHATSOEVER are almost uniformily running on more than 8 gb system RAM.

6 GB here. I know it's more than average, but from my memory usage stats 4 GB would also be fine as I rarely use more than 4 GB RAM.

I heartily agree with everything else you've said.

 

[gr8tfly]

First of all, Lion has made some major changes. Everything is now 64 bit. Any program that is not 64 bit is going to have running problems.

Absolutely not true. The only requirement for 64-bit compatibility with the OS are kernel extensions, or kexts. Kexts must match the mode the kernel runs in. In SL, if you booted to the 64-bit kernel, you would have the same compatibility requirement as Lion. The same applied to 32-bit kernels (the default mode on most machines prior to Lion).

Applications, on the other hand, can run in either 32-bit or 64-bit mode, regardless of the mode the kernel runs in.

 

[zarathu]

Once again complete rubbish. People do that for the dev's because they tend to have bugs, and they don't want their actual computer affected, once the OS actually comes out, there really is no reason to keep the old OS there, and without all your files, the new OS is pretty useless. Sure there are bugs, but nothing that massive or problematic so far. Or at least I haven't heard of it.

You work for Apple, right?

The best man at my wedding(almost 40 years ago) is an apple consultant, and he agrees that everything is honkey dokey. He showed me how his Aperture 3 program runs fine, while we waited for the bouncing ball repeatedly between the change of photos. ROTFLMAO!!! I didn't ask him to actually run any processes.

None of the stuff you suggested take much processing power or RAM according to my Activity Monitor. Not surprised! Like to see the same event when you have something running that actually requires RAM or Processing power. But then.... it also sounds like you haven't read much of the writings on the Apple Support columns. I suggest you go over there are take a gander.

 

[Amberfool]

You work for Apple, right?

The best man at my wedding(almost 40 years ago) is an apple consultant, and he agrees that everything is honkey dokey. He showed me how his Aperture 3 program runs fine, while we waited for the bouncing ball repeatedly between the change of photos. ROTFLMAO!!! I didn't ask him to actually run any processes.

None of the stuff you suggested take much processing power or RAM according to my Activity Monitor. Not surprised! Like to see the same event when you have something running that actually requires RAM or Processing power. But then.... it also sounds like you haven't read much of the writings on the Apple Support columns. I suggest you go over there are take a gander.

No actually I don't. What programs do most people use actually require huge amount of RAM anyway? I mean beside Aperture, which seems to be your default.

I actually have been to the Apple Support section, but I have yet to see a widespread problem. Half of it is just people talking about lion, a quarter are just asking questions, with no actual problem, and only a quarter or so of what I can see from the first few pages are actual problems, and none of them seem to affect more then a few people at most. That is usual for a new Mac OS, and I'm sure many of them will be fixed in the next update coming in a few weeks.

 

[Damers]

This thread has been off topic since post #7. The OP must be face palming, I am.

 

[Boo The Hamster]

A thread on an internet forum getting derailed! Who'da thunk it?

The abuse still seems to be going strong though, particularly from those who are in the Pro-Lion camp. The feeling appears to be that if you choose to downgrade to Snow Leopard, then you're 'a bit stupid' or 'don't get it'.

When I was young I used to drink fruit juice or a well-known brand of Cola (no, not that one, the other one).
When my friends and I got to an age where we could actually get into pubs without being laughed at, beer appeared in our lives.
Most of the others loved it - me I thought it was awful. Tasted like dishwater, cost more than my fruit juice, and I couldn't get in a car and drive afterwards.

'Come on, keep trying it,' they said. 'You'll get used to the taste eventually.'

25 years later, and I'm still teetotal. Got nothing against people who drink (sensibly), and none of my friends take the mickey out of me for not drinking.

Pity the same doesn't seem to apply to operating systems.

Oh well.