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OS X 10.10.3 Puts More Focus on Emoji, Lays Groundwork for Skin Tone Modifiers
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Luckily, you're not the one who decides what has a "place" in an operating system.
Surely, fonts do (if you disagree, consider that one of the hallmarks of the original Mac was how many nice fonts it shipped with)?
Text APIs do (consider how great it is in OS X that virtually every text field has built-in spell check, suggestions, corrections and more)?
Easier input of special characters does (ever tried inputting multilingual text in Windows? Mac OS has been way ahead in this regard for a long time)?
And if all of the above is true, why not just go all the way and provide a set high-quality special characters?
What, because OS X has Wi-Fi bugs? That's a non sequitur, and you know it. Those bugs don't get fixed by throwing the five people working on emoji into the networking team, nor by hiring another five people with networking expertise off the street. Software engineering doesn't work that way.
Maybe I am a bit odd, but I think to solve a racial issue with emoticons by adding skin tone modifiers is actualy extremely racist.
An emoticon is meant to represent an emotion, obviously, and I think there should not be ANY racial association in them.
It worked great with normal smileys...no one gets offended by them.
Think of it this way: by creating "skin tone modified" versions you are forced to make a racial statement with every use of those emoticons...what a stupid idea...
Wouldn't it be much better to make those emoticons "generic" with yellow "skincolor" (or blue, green, purple or whatever non natural color one would prefer...)
What I am trying to say is that if you want to do something about racism, you won't accomplish anything if you force racial segregation upon communication.
An emoticon is meant to represent an emotion, obviously, and I think there should not be ANY racial association in them.
It worked great with normal smileys...no one gets offended by them.
Think of it this way: by creating "skin tone modified" versions you are forced to make a racial statement with every use of those emoticons...what a stupid idea...
Wouldn't it be much better to make those emoticons "generic" with yellow "skincolor" (or blue, green, purple or whatever non natural color one would prefer...)
What I am trying to say is that if you want to do something about racism, you won't accomplish anything if you force racial segregation upon communication.
Again, the yellow ones already exist and are here to stay. This is about these:
Additionally, it's not Apple that are doing this. It's part of Unicode 8. They're just ensuring the update will work on OSX.
I am aware of that...and my post was aimed at those emoticons listed by Shandyman...as in: "I think it would be better if those emoticons had the same "unnatural" coloring as the yellow (normal smileys), that would be a lot more integrating then the segregation due to different "natural" skin colors"
Sorry if I wasn't clear enough on that
I hope my comment did not read like i was trying to criticise Apple for this, as my criticism is aimed at the whole "political correctness by segregation" path that is currently so dreadfully en vougue.
Not to me it didn't. I was just trying to provide some additional salient information, to help show the people banging on saying that Apple dropped everything just to work on the emoji thing.
Maybe they should. Could not get any worse then it already is.
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"I should stop writing in this delicate subject and risk being flamed for free"
too late for me
too late for me
Ahhhh, thanks for being one of the few sane people that would rather include everyone (=NOT racist) then to promote racial separation (=racist).
In this particular case, I think, political correctness is a realy thin disguise to hide racism...let's not go there (ever again)...
Emoji Challenge
Since becoming a member of Unicode last year, I have learned a lot about the derivation of emoji and the original Japanese intent. The human emoji was suppose to be more of a nuetral hue when the US/Apple adopted it. However, the perception of the human emoji that the viewers and public sees appears to be one sided. That is why we developed iDiversicons.
The major mobile technology players are addressing it through the skin tone modifiers that Unicode is proposing. There is a Unicode Draft Technical Report 51 that addresses more than I can articulate. Here is the link: http://www.unicode.org/draft/reports/tr51/tr51.html
Since becoming a member of Unicode last year, I have learned a lot about the derivation of emoji and the original Japanese intent. The human emoji was suppose to be more of a nuetral hue when the US/Apple adopted it. However, the perception of the human emoji that the viewers and public sees appears to be one sided. That is why we developed iDiversicons.
The major mobile technology players are addressing it through the skin tone modifiers that Unicode is proposing. There is a Unicode Draft Technical Report 51 that addresses more than I can articulate. Here is the link: http://www.unicode.org/draft/reports/tr51/tr51.html
Racism - emojis ?????
Goodness what is everyone on about. I have never read such a load of total rubbish.
Never even consider using emojis and have deleted them form my IOS units.
Yet another waste of time from Apple - How about getting the operating systems working properly first time around and forget these useless/pointless add-ons.
From my (lurking) point of view I am looking forward to the time coming when I can reasonably (economically) dump my Apple iMac and get back to the relative sanity of Windows.
I have been using iPhones and iPads successfully for years and, on the basis of this experience, I bought an Apple iMac 15 months ago and have regretted it from day one especially as I upgraded as these upgrades became publicly available.
Naively, I thought these upgrades would keep my unit up to date and make my experience better, instead I found my self part of an OS X development programme.
Sorry about my grumpiness but all I want is my computer to do what I want it to - instead I have to use bizarre and complicated processes to achieve what I used to do in minutes.
I spend an inordinate amount of time each session Googling
"how do I do ............ in OS X".
Goodness what is everyone on about. I have never read such a load of total rubbish.
Never even consider using emojis and have deleted them form my IOS units.
Yet another waste of time from Apple - How about getting the operating systems working properly first time around and forget these useless/pointless add-ons.
From my (lurking) point of view I am looking forward to the time coming when I can reasonably (economically) dump my Apple iMac and get back to the relative sanity of Windows.
I have been using iPhones and iPads successfully for years and, on the basis of this experience, I bought an Apple iMac 15 months ago and have regretted it from day one especially as I upgraded as these upgrades became publicly available.
Naively, I thought these upgrades would keep my unit up to date and make my experience better, instead I found my self part of an OS X development programme.
Sorry about my grumpiness but all I want is my computer to do what I want it to - instead I have to use bizarre and complicated processes to achieve what I used to do in minutes.
I spend an inordinate amount of time each session Googling
"how do I do ............ in OS X".
And the opinion of so many other people...and partially fact based. Just look at the stability of one vs the other. Unfortunately, my 'nonsense' is well-grounded. That's probably why more people up-voted my post than the 0 on yours. Yosemite is the worst apple OS in years, and it's fairly unanimous amongst long-time and professional users.
And I've been using computers 'in-depth' since Jaguar for Mac, and Windows 98. The rate at which Apple progressed from then until snow leopard was INCREDIBLE. From Snow Leopard to now...it really isn't impressive. Windows made huge leaps from 98 to XP, but XP to now? Not impressive either. Mediocrity is desktop OS. Ubuntu has been fun to play with, but it's not really in the mix.
LMAO I stopped reading the moment you mentioned upvotes having any importance. Sad for you if you live by upvotes. Yeah and there many people that visit this site (such as paid FUD spreaders) that hate Apple and will upvote anything that is posted negative about Apple. But I'm happy for you that you feel "popular" here because of your upvotes.
Oh and BTW, only 2 people upvoted you. Two Whole People. Yep, sooo many people agree with you. Haha, too funny. There's no such thing as "partially fact based". It's either fact or it's not.....and in your case, it's not.
And as expected Apple is now the butt of jokes, well deserved I might add:
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/apple-just-showed-off-its-new-diverse-emoji-for-111891028074.html
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/apple-just-showed-off-its-new-diverse-emoji-for-111891028074.html
Apart from the fact the article is wrong, simply because it's not Apple that brought this about. It's Unicode that caused the change. Apple are just providing support.
I'm not sure if the skin tone is supposed to be color-accurate or what, but asians don't look that yellow...
Most people are referring to these...
They're not yellow.....
Oh I wasn't really talking about that, just the asian skin tone option they included in the new update. Realized this was the old thread... oops ��
A lot of people are ignoring those ones and just banging on about the plain yellow ones, missing the point totally, so I thought you were more of the same. Apologies if I tarred you with the wrong brush.