OS X 10.11 El Capitan Runs on All Macs Capable of Running Yosemite

[Gasu E.]

Words cannot justify how speechless I am of this name.

Hence the term "speechless."

 

[Mike MA]

The point is that apple SHOULD NOT be selling 5400RPM hard drives. Apple actually downgraded its iMacs from 7200RPM hard drives as standard down to 5400RPM drives at the end of 2012. Apple just needs to slightly cut its profit margins and have fusion drives as standard. Or they're just another company that is in it purely for the profit and not for giving the user the "best possible experience".

Well, do you have to report a margin somewhere on your work? As long as the offering match demand, you will try to maximize.

 

[Mike MA]

Nice to see the old devices still being supported btw. Seems to be in contrast to the iOS policy. Besides Airplay/Handoff restrictions, my Macbook Air 2010 still works pretty well.

 

[Gasu E.]

Agreed. I mean, OS X Hollywood, Golden Gate, or Redwood would've been better.

No, those things have nothing to do with Yosemite. "El Capitan" is to "Yosemite" as "Snow Leopard" is to Leopard", which was as "Mountain Lion" is to "Lion". "El Capitan" is actually pretty perfect for the task it was intended to fulfill.

 

[rdlink]

Sadly though the iMac is the desktop that most people buy and it having a spinning hard drive really does affect performance. The 21.5 inch iMac has a 5400rpm Hard drive, and it REALLY slows down the machine. I cannot believe they are still selling this as a default option.

But if they didn't offer the HDD option people would complain (more) about price. I think we're a couple of years, tops before prices of SSD technology comes down to the point where Apple no longer offers HDD on any of their computers.

 

[AllergyDoc]

Having enjoyed the beauty of Yosemite National Park many times, I like the name. I'm looking forward to using the OS.

 

[oldmacs]

Well, do you have to report a margin somewhere on your work? As long as the offering match demand, you will try to maximize.

Well no… Apple have a huge profit margin on its devices. I don't think they should compromise experience for a slight increase in margin.

5400RPMs are a joke and Apple should be ashamed.

 

[Bill-Rodwell]

Have not installed it yet---Going to wait till see if there are any bugs

 

[unplugme71]

OS 10.12 - La tierra sin agua

I prefer El ultimo de nosotros

 

[Benjamin Frost]

Yay, my 2007 iMac is still chugging along pretty good[sic].

I'm glad to hear that your 2007 iMac is still chugging along pretty well.

 

[redheeler]

Have not installed it yet---Going to wait till see if there are any bugs

Of course there are bugs. No software is perfect, especially beta quality software.

However, so far, 10.11 has worked fine for me and appears to have helped a bit with lag as well.

 

[DaveMcM76]

Definitely seems to have breathed a bit of life back into my ailing Mid 2011 Mac Mini and no immediately obvious issues - in fact both this and iOS 9 seem remarkably stable for beta 1 releases so far.

Also, for whoever it was that mentioned it earlier my About This Mac DEFINITELY said "OS X Yosemite Version 10.11" when I first looked after the upgrade but it now says "OS X El Capitan Version 10.11" so there would appear to be some odd delay in this text getting updated somewhere...

 

[groovyd]

https://developer.apple.com/metal/

I'd like to know exactly what user level features Metal improves upon over OpenGL for example will we see 8x smoother window scrolling in safari and mail etc? Does it render fonts faster or is it just for 3D effects or will it accelerate all 2D features as well? Sounds like they put it in pretty deep so everything should gain automatic benefit?

 

[canman4PM]

Yay, my 2007 iMac is still chugging along pretty good.

Mine too. Amazing ain't it?

 

[canman4PM]

Have to admit I was very pleasantly surprised when my mid-2007 iMac supported Mavericks, then last year with Yosemite, that was totally unexpected and now again. Granted, I've upgraded to an SSD and added 2GB of RAM to the machine, but it's running the latest and greatest from Apple and doing very well at it. Not a bad investment at all!

See my post above.

I thought I'd have replace the thing by now.

 

[canman4PM]

Can anyone answer (or guess) the following: Will Mid 2007 iMac really perform alright with El Cap? I've got a 27" iMac from '07, with 4GB RAM. I upgraded to Yosemite but it was too slow...downgraded to Snow Leopard because it was streamlined and fast. What do you think...will my system really run okay with El Cap, or should I just stick with Snow Leopard?

I too have a late 2007 and found Yosemite really breathed new life into the old machine. In which will be downloading EC, when it comes out, so send me a message a month or so after if you want me to guinea pig for you.

 

[canman4PM]

The first 27" iMac was in 2009. Perhaps you mean the 24" iMac from 2007 which will max out at 6GB of memory. You should consider upgrading no matter which OS you are running.

Why? Mine cost a lot of money and so would its replacement. Why rush?

 

[canman4PM]

I wouldn't be complacent, I would consider start looking at upgrading at some point in the next couple years. Don't think this trend will continue on. (IMHO) maybe next year.

I can't believe it's gone on as long as it has. I figured I'd be un-upgradeable after Lion. Mountain Lion, Mavericks and Yosemite have both been pleasant surprises. As is El Capitán.

 

[canman4PM]

What you state is true; 5400 RPM drives do slow down algorithmic and computational operations of certain tasks within a computing system environment, yes. However, the read and write speeds of the drive are/were designed for a specified use case and in thise instances the drive works just fine. Most normal consumers do not even know they have, or don't have for that matter, a specific hard drive in their computer. You cannot cherry-pick your data set for use from an applicant pool of Macrumor readers, or you and your friends, etc. as the bias is extremely intact we and corrupts valid data you are trying to use to make a point. When I say "most normal consumers," I am alluding to the 95% of people of use their iMac or CPU system for surfing the Internet, email, chat, Facebook, etc.; tasks using meanial resources and only needing basic hardware computer parts to operate efficiently within the given threshold allowed (while still maintaining high customer satisfaction rates from customers), and that allows the use of the 5400 RPM drives.

While I do agree they should provide a basic option at the same price point for a smaller sized SSD instead of the larger HD, again their "research, development, customer feedback, etc." has all led to the decision they made to continue using the specified drives. I am not going to sit here and say I know better than Apple based on my opinion or thoughts without the facts, that's just ignorant; they are after all the most profitable business in the world lol so they must be doing something right somewhere. I will say the transition is there to SSD drives and the tota transition within he iMac lineup has just not been a necessity until now (according again to the research and data they spend billions of dollars annually collecting). I do feel it was more important to change the mobile lineup to include standard SSD as there is usually only one storage option on the road with a laptop, the built-in HD. Unlike a home PC where you can hook up an extern TB drive for added storage and have it rate Read and Write both faster still, even without an SSD internally. So the contexts are different and the situations are different, but things are changing yes.

Sometimes we just have to step back and remember that our voices, the voices of us individuals in Macrumors, are the extreme minority and not a realistic sampling of likely identified computer owners in general. While we all here may agree or disagree to a point, the world away from here has no clue. And as a perfect example, my mother sent me a text earlier this morning and asked me, "... What's this new Apple Music thing I heard about?" Not only does she have no clue lol, she has no idea what iTunes Radio is either. So most people in categorized in the general applicant saming pool are not affected by most of what personally affects users like you and I.

Hope you understand what I am trying to say and see what I mean lol.

Have a great day.

Best...

USVet96

It's funny that most people on this site don't seem to get, or have forgotten, that we are not "most people".

 

[canman4PM]

Got it running on my 2007 iMac last night. Haven't managed to play with it enough yet to see if it's actually quicker than Yosemite was.

Keep us advised.

 

[WardC]

Mine says "El Cabrón", but hey, that's just me...

 

[0000757]

- Xserve (Early 2009)

Whoa, I forgot that was even a product.

 

[MagicHAM]

I can't believe it's gone on as long as it has. I figured I'd be un-upgradeable after Lion. Mountain Lion, Mavericks and Yosemite have both been pleasant surprises. As is El Capitán.

Same here, i should consider myself lucky that I haven't needed to buy a new MacBook at this point.

My Mac minis last version is Mac OS Lionel it has 4 gigs of ram still runs well is Yosemite could have run on this thing.

 

[smiles813]

I remember when the names were cool.

 

[razmanugget]

It makes me sad to see so many people bashing the name El Capitán.

For rock climbers, climbing El Capitán is for pure bad asses. It's so arduous that climbers climb it over several days and have to pitch tents that they connect to the side of the mountain.

Imagine sleeping in one of these...