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OS X 10.4.6 Now Available

PCMacUser said:
Well you kind of missed my point. I was talking about what I noticed. I don't use Mail. I don't use Safari. I use Entourage and Firefox. Migration doesn't help me. I have nothing to migrate from. The built in slide shows don't display pictures in order, so I use third party software for that. I hardly ever use the shell.

But I shall shut up now. It's like walking into a mosque and shouting 'Praise Jesus' in here sometimes hahah...
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So, just because you don't notice something was new in a release means it doesn't exist? That seems a fair way to compare two pieces of software....NOT. Fact is, each 10.x release has major feature additions, whether you notice them or not. Equally, fact is, Windows service packs don't. They're just rollups of all their bugfixes.

Nothing religious about that. It's reality of the non-distorted kind.

Occasionally we get new features in OSX 'service packs' too like the widget management tool in 10.4.1 or Safari 1.3 in 10.3.9. But I guess since you don't use those you've probably not noticed.
 
Multimedia said:
I feel so bad for you BUT you really didn't do it right. ALWAYS shut down all apps and repair permissions b4 running the COMBO updater - never the incremental. Leaving applications running and not repairing permissions before running only the Combo is just asking for trouble. Sorry Eddy. You really didn't follow protocol. :(
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That's baloney. If that was the protocol, Apple would make you do that before running the software update. They don't.

I've never done it, since 10.1 days. Never had a problem.
 
All seems well on my power mac. I think I'm going to wait a couple days before I put it on my PB since I read about one guy having issues.
 
MacRumoron said:
upgraded on iMac G5 and can no longer connect to the internet.. and don't know how to fix it..

my iMac isn't recognizing my USB network adapter
..i'll find a solution sooner or later :p
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Binning the USB network adaptor?

Really, more trouble than they are worth even on Windows never mind the Mac.
 
avensis087 said:
. . . anybody out there praying that tomorrow brings something more special than an OS X update??
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I am! At least update that Homepage and acknowledge you had a 30th anniversary. :rolleyes:
 
I updated my Software.

Hit the Restart button, Machine Restarts, Startup Chime, Grey Screen with Apple logo, Nothing for a while, Black Screen, Machine Restarts, Apple Chime, Grey Screen with Apple logo, Blue Screen, Mac OSX thingy, Desktop Wallpaper, Menu Bar, Dock.

Rough Startup but hey it finally worked. It was a little scary I wonder what caused the reboot hick-up.
 
alexstein said:
I updated my Software.

Hit the Restart button, Machine Restarts, Startup Chime, Grey Screen with Apple logo, Nothing for a while, Black Screen, Machine Restarts, Apple Chime, Grey Screen with Apple logo, Blue Screen, Mac OSX thingy, Desktop Wallpaper, Menu Bar, Dock.

Rough Startup but hey it finally worked. It was a little scary I wonder what caused the reboot hick-up.
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That's exactly what's supposed to happen with this update.
 
wow, its the first 10.x.x update ever to not break compatibility with my clear dock background using TransparentDock. That developer can finally get a rest :)
 
Sorry if someone already mentioned this (12 pages is quite a bit to rummage through), but I really hope this fixes the Intel iMac keyboard problems. There's really no mention of it in the list of updates, which if it actually was something fixed I would think it would be mentioned since it seems like a major issue (I would also think that that since it's a major issue, it woulda been fixed a long time ago, but I suppose I'm wrong about that as well). Anyways, so far so good, but I haven't been running 10.4.6 for very long. Here's hoping...
 
I Would Never Update W/O Quitting All, Repair Permissions and Only Use The Combo

Multimedia said:
I feel so bad for you BUT you really didn't do it right. ALWAYS shut down all apps and repair permissions b4 running the COMBO updater - never the incremental. Leaving applications running and not repairing permissions before running only the Combo is just asking for trouble. Sorry Eddy. You really didn't follow protocol.
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aegisdesign said:
That's baloney. If that was the protocol, Apple would make you do that before running the software update. They don't.

I've never done it, since 10.1 days. Never had a problem.
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Just because they don't "make you do that" doen't mean you don't need to to make sure you don't run into problems like Eddyg had. And just because you never had a problem not doing it doesn't mean one shouldn't do it. You are darned lucky aegisdesign. I would never run an update while other applications are still running and without running repair permissions first and with only the Combo and never the incremental updater. But that's just me. You could be right. Only Eddyg may not think so right now.

Can I get a witness here? I need an amen please. ;) :D :p :cool: :eek: :eek:
 
the.snitch said:
wow, its the first 10.x.x update ever to not break compatibility with my clear dock background using TransparentDock. That developer can finally get a rest :)
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That's because the developer of TransparentDock was actually ahead of things and testing before 10.4.5 was released. I suspect they not only wanted to be ahead of time but update-proof.
 
Detlev said:
YEAH BABY!!!! This is the 30th anniversary update. I knew they wouldn't let us down. Thank you Steve!! You go, man.

Back to reality:

Cool, Disk Utility's repair permissions feature will no longer report "We are using special permissions for..." messages.
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That is a smart move by Apple.

There were many posts here by uneducated noobs who complained that Disk Utility always "reported problems."

aegisdesign said:
Do we have to have this discussion every year? :eek:
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Amen.

It is the most boring and pathetic debate.

ChrisFromCanada said:
THEY HAVE FIXED AIRPORT ON MY INTEL MINI. SIGNAL STRENGTH BETTER THAN EVER!

I scanned over the thread and hadn't seen any reports yet so here is your early indication!
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Great to read, and thanks for sharing. I'm going to go update my wife's Mac mini now. Outside of the wireless issues, it's an amazing computer...so I hope those issues are now gone...
 
I see the repair permissions myth is still going strong.

See http://daringfireball.net/2004/12/software_update

Totally right.

Multimedia said:
Just because they don't "make you do that" doen't mean you don't need to to make sure you don't run into problems like Eddyg had. And just because you never had a problem not doing it doesn't mean one shouldn't do it. You are darned lucky aegisdesign. I would never run an update while other applications are still running and without running repair permissions first and with only the Combo and never the incremental updater. But that's just me. You could be right. Only Eddyg may not think so right now.
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I'm not darned lucky. I just don't listen to the crap on here and I'm careful what software I install. No haxies, no Norton anything, no input managers, no kernel hacks, no dodgy fonts. Regular Apple sanctioned system maintenance and backups which I've never needed.
 
WildCowboy said:
That's exactly what's supposed to happen with this update.
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I saw it now, too. I should have read the info sheet a little bit more careful. Thanks though.
 
the.snitch said:
wow, its the first 10.x.x update ever to not break compatibility with my clear dock background using TransparentDock. That developer can finally get a rest :)
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(Off-topic: Hey! Thanks for the 'ware name :D I hadn't looked at all, but I was wanting something to do even less than that software provides!)

Topic-On: The update went just fine on my G5 iMac. Maybe I should say it went as expected, with requisite double-start, and slight delay at getting to the login. As others have mentioned, how one can make it to the end of this thread and ask, "What's up with the hick-up?" is truly mistifying. :D Maybe the install took much longer than it seemed, but then I've got the patience to read though a bit of the thread before the ADD (Added Desire to Drink) starts to take its toll. <sip>





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aegisdesign said:
I'm not darned lucky. I just don't listen to the crap on here and I'm careful what software I install. No haxies, no Norton anything, no input managers, no kernel hacks, no dodgy fonts. Regular Apple sanctioned system maintenance and backups which I've never needed.
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I strongly agree with aegisdesign on this and would add that I also don't make system or application changes at all via the terminal unless a) it's sanctioned by Apple via a knowledgebase article, or b) there is an accompanying reset or "undo" command - a get out of jail free card.

I'm not a member of the church of permissions repair. There are basically only two instances when I run it: The first is if I'm really, really bored and want to pass some time, and the second is if an application uses the old "vice" installer which often sets incorrect permissions (Yep, I'm looking at you Macromedia/Adobe). Even still, I haven't had an issue yet with a vice installer where it's usage has caused any noticeable performance degradation or abnormalities pertaining either to operation of the system or the application it installs - only the fact that disk utility corrects permissions for the files that were installed. But there is never a difference in performance or function afterwards.

Repair permissions has become sort of the modern day equivalent of the legendary "rebuild the desktop" advice from the days of Mac OS 9 and earlier. A magic cure all for anything - and I mean anything. Both are relatively harmless, safe to run, and extremely unlikely to cause any problems in and of themselves. But whether they specifically address a problem the user is having is another story altogether.

My machine came with 10.3.0 installed. I've installed every update since then without a single problem right through 10.4.6. I've never repaired permissions before or after an OS update, and never had any reason to. When I upgraded to Tiger, I used the basic upgrade, not archive and install or clean install. So far, there have been none - zero - problems.
 
PCMacUser said:
The built in slide shows don't display pictures in order, so I use third party software for that.
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If you set the folder that contains your pics to column view (not icon or list), the built-in slideshow will display the pics in order.
 
treblah said:
http://daringfireball.net/2006/04/repair_permissions

Cue permissions controversy in 3, 2, 1…
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Oh, I know. People go overboard. When I suspect that there were a lot of permission problems during Jaguar. I remember installing twice to get everything installed. The good thing is that the special permissions messages are hidden. No more newbies running Disk Utility 15 times in a row. :p

I know UNIX fairly well having dealt with it daily during the 1990s and permissions shouldn't go wrong in normal operations, but my experience with Mac OS X from the public beta forward that it wasn't normal--sometimes better, sometimes worse.

I'm pretty satisfied by the end of Tiger that it'll be a reasonably stable operating system...for UNIX.
 
I believe 10.4.6 upgrade did something negative to my computer

12" powerbook 867MHz with a CD-Burner 640mb ram and a 60gb hd. After installing 10.4.6 and rebooting (the normal twice for PPC) i put a dvd in with some data on it. the disc never showed up in the finder and it wont eject. Holding down the trackpad button on startup wont eject it, but it does make motor noises a bunch before continuing to start.

the worst part is that in system profiler it says I don't have a burner but it does see the cd drive in the ata menu. iTunes says no disc burner or software found. hopefully its 10.4.6 and not my hardware dying at a coincidental time.
 
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