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OS X 10.4.6 Now Available
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This update is dangerous - do not apply without a backup
Hi,
I now know of six people who have had serious upgrade issues with this
update.
The symptoms in all cases are the upgrade process failing, putting the
installer in the Trash and leaving computer unable to execute any
process without a CPU exception. Subsequent reboots then fail.
The only solution is to reinstall MacOS 10.4 and then download the patches
~220Mb worth to get you back to where you were.
I suspect that Apple may pull this update and have a new one soon..
Cheers, Ed.
Hi,
I now know of six people who have had serious upgrade issues with this
update.
The symptoms in all cases are the upgrade process failing, putting the
installer in the Trash and leaving computer unable to execute any
process without a CPU exception. Subsequent reboots then fail.
The only solution is to reinstall MacOS 10.4 and then download the patches
~220Mb worth to get you back to where you were.
I suspect that Apple may pull this update and have a new one soon..
Cheers, Ed.
Major wireless problems after update...
After updating I'm having weird keychain problems and wireless problems doing WPA auth with my access point. I'd suggest holding off applying. Anyone else see weird wireless issues?
After updating I'm having weird keychain problems and wireless problems doing WPA auth with my access point. I'd suggest holding off applying. Anyone else see weird wireless issues?
I dont know if this has been suggested, but what do people think about having a poll for every update of the OS,
eg have something like the following as the poll choices:
update installed with noticeable improvement to system
update installed no noticeable difference
update installed with minor speed decrease
update installed with minor incompatibility issues
update installed with serious decrease in system performance/operation
update did not install correctly
update killed my mac
This way instead of wading through 13+ pages of forum a quick look at the poll would let people get a general feeling for what this update is doing to peoples macs, and if it is a good idea to maybe wait to install, or jump right in.
Just putting an idea out there
eg have something like the following as the poll choices:
update installed with noticeable improvement to system
update installed no noticeable difference
update installed with minor speed decrease
update installed with minor incompatibility issues
update installed with serious decrease in system performance/operation
update did not install correctly
update killed my mac
This way instead of wading through 13+ pages of forum a quick look at the poll would let people get a general feeling for what this update is doing to peoples macs, and if it is a good idea to maybe wait to install, or jump right in.
Just putting an idea out there
Update poked my iBook!
Just to add my voice to the growing chorus that is suggesting something is wrong with this update.
I used software update to download and install 10.4.6 on my 12" 800Mhz G4 iBook. It was running 10.4.5, all up-to-date, with no modifications or haxies or anything running.
At the end of the install I got the error saying the package had been moved to the trash. The finder was still usable but no apps would launch. I dragged the package out of the trash but it refused to run.
I had to power down by holding down the power button. Rebooted and the iBook hung on the grey Apple for about 15 minutes. Powered off again, and fortunately my wife brought her work PC laptop home so I looked up this thread to see what the issue was.
So an hour later I've reinstalled Tiger from the DVD and am downloading the 10.4.5 combo update.
Thanks Apple! What a great way to spend an evening.
Zen
Just to add my voice to the growing chorus that is suggesting something is wrong with this update.
I used software update to download and install 10.4.6 on my 12" 800Mhz G4 iBook. It was running 10.4.5, all up-to-date, with no modifications or haxies or anything running.
At the end of the install I got the error saying the package had been moved to the trash. The finder was still usable but no apps would launch. I dragged the package out of the trash but it refused to run.
I had to power down by holding down the power button. Rebooted and the iBook hung on the grey Apple for about 15 minutes. Powered off again, and fortunately my wife brought her work PC laptop home so I looked up this thread to see what the issue was.
So an hour later I've reinstalled Tiger from the DVD and am downloading the 10.4.5 combo update.
Thanks Apple! What a great way to spend an evening.
Zen
Updated my 1.33 Ghz iBook a few minutes ago and all seems well. Is it me or do most of the people experiencing problems running older systems?
aegisdesign said:
To a certain extent that's probably true. MS releases minor updates pretty regularly, but usually leave mass changes to the big releases. This can be very annoying, but it is understandable; they're really victims of their own monopoly.
For a start, they have to build and maintain an OS that runs on a ridiculous number of configurations, 99% of which Microsoft hasn't even seen. As well as that, they have to ensure they don't break an equally ridiculous number of applications. When you're hampered by this level of backwards-compatibility, it's little wonder things go very slowly.
Apple on the other hand, only needs to support a handful of machines, a relatively small number of applications and the relatively small size of the user base means that they can release stuff that won't run on older versions of their own OS, without causing that many people, that much hassle.
MS doesn't have the luxury of just busting stuff at each new release; it would be disastrous for their users if they did.
The other problem is incentive. Most Windows purchases are pre-installs. So from MS' point of view there is little need to rush out an OS, because they've pretty much tied up the market anyway. There's no real difference (money-wise) from a machine pre-installed with XP and a machine installed with Vista.
DarkRail said:
Yeah! Now thats what I'm talking about!
My only grip with MacOS was its ability to sync with my Nokia Series 40 phone!
Full support for Address Book, Calendar, To-Do
(what's left is Notes sync)
ssorry I didn't go thorugh the whole thread...but is it just me or Safari is flying after the update
Just on iBook sig, double restart freaked me out at first, and it took ages to get going....Just booted to OS X seems to be fine, Saying this after what has been said i'm weary of installing the update on my iMac G5....Think i'll give it another couple days,
SHadoW
SHadoW
Multimedia said:Just because they don't "make you do that" doen't mean you don't need to to make sure you don't run into problems like Eddyg had. And just because you never had a problem not doing it doesn't mean one shouldn't do it. You are darned lucky aegisdesign. I would never run an update while other applications are still running and without running repair permissions first and with only the Combo and never the incremental updater. But that's just me. You could be right. Only Eddyg may not think so right now.
Can I get a witness here? I need an amen please.
No chance. baloney is what it is!
aswitcher said:
Sorry but NO, it's not a premature release; it is working perfectly for most Mac users around. Just a few remarks for the scared ones:
1) Apple STATES that in PPC machines there is a DOUBLE reboot - no odd behavior intended, so please relax;
2) On Disk Utility you will ONLY see, from now on, permission repair messages when they ARE supposed to happen;
3) The Cagefighter haxie for Mail (to use Panther-style buttons) is gone for now; the update kills it (not that I would care much anyway);
4) Notwithstanding what other users say about the "repair permissions myth", please DO quit all apps and DO repair permissions before running the update.
The risk of facing problems gets much lower, and the hassle you have is irrelevant even if "repair permissions" are not that necessary anymore;
5) I have always used the Software Update mode with the routines above, and nothing ever happened to my Mac. Combo/delta updaters, in my opinion, are for extreme cases, including those arising from connection breakdowns...
I hope this helps...
http://blog.smalldog.com/article/88/running-apple-remote-desktop-on-an-intel-macHarbinger said:
"Using special permissions" did not mean that anything was broken. I guess this "using special permissions" confusion is a shibboleth.cjboffoli97 said:
When I referred to what I didn't notice, I was responsding to the earlier post that said 'I didn't notice many differences in XP Service Packs'. But there were literally hundreds of updates and bug fixes. You're EXACTLY right - just because you don't notice it doesn't mean it doesn't exist!aegisdesign said:
These are just the FIXES that appeared in SP2....
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/811113/en-us
But a startling similarity between XP Service Packs and the recent 10.4.x updates is they tend to break a lot of computers! Quality control isn't the same as it apparently used to be at Apple.
