OS X 10.4 Tiger build 8A393 Seeded

[jayscheuerle]

I don't know where you're getting your info. But it's getting faster and less buggy with every new release. The latest one only has 15 minor bugs left as opposed to hundreds of major ones in the earlier releases.

This thread?

"I can tell you that so far each beta release has gotten worse. Although I havent tested 8A393 yet but 8A385 is absolutly horrendous."

"I have 12 software apps that have been broken by the last 3 seeds of Tiger. Plus the server version kernel panics like crazy on my Xserves."

No personal insight myself, but why is your word better than these other peoples?

 

[bosrs1]

This thread?

"I can tell you that so far each beta release has gotten worse. Although I havent tested 8A393 yet but 8A385 is absolutly horrendous."

"I have 12 software apps that have been broken by the last 3 seeds of Tiger. Plus the server version kernel panics like crazy on my Xserves."

No personal insight myself, but why is your word better than these other peoples?

It's not. But then my hardware might be better then theirs 🙂

 

[~loserman~]

It's not. But then my hardware might be better then theirs 🙂

The main reason is you probably havent tested as exhaustively as we have.
Or your numbers of equipment you tested on is much lower than ours.
We have tested Tiger on 128 of our 1835 Xserves at the same time.

and our findings clearly show that over the last 3 beta releases things have gotten much worse.
Now that doesnt mean that the next release couldnt fix a ton of stuff... because it could. But so far that hasnt been the case.

 

[Plymouthbreezer]

Sounds like you need to purchase more RAM. Not enough memory can be a big reason for your system acting slow. At least 1 GB would be a good idea.

No, the slowness is because I'm running Tiger on my iPod through the Firewire.

Dashboard is awesome, and I love how it pops up below the dock. 🙂

 

[BWhaler]

...let's not forget Tiger is still is in beta with bugs being stamped out left and right.

Apple has 3-4 months to get this right.

 

[wdlove]

...let's not forget Tiger is still is in beta with bugs being stamped out left and right.

Apple has 3-4 months to get this right.

They do need to stamp out bugs.

Lets just hope its not 3 - 4 months to fix them. They would still need production time. We want to see Tiger by June 24th.

 

[inkhead]

Tested it as exhaustively as you have? I'll bet $50 that you installed over a previous beta, or had a previous OS on the drive.

Do this (AND DO NOT USE AN IPOD) If you don't follow these steps to the letter and install off the DVD (no running osinstall.mpkg from disk!!) or you will get a horrible experience

1. Burn the DVD from ADC Seed of latest build (8a393 as of today....)
2. Starup from disk.
3. FORMAT drive for Tiger to go on (very important)
4. Install Tiger

If any other OS was previously on there, tiger 10.3, 10.2 even if tiger tells you upgrade or install over AND EVEN archive and install... It will cause problems. During testing clean install each time is the only way to go. The last thing as a build nears gm that's done is insure that the install updates and overwrites correctly.

Do what I say then report back problems. Also don't run any external firewire drives in this build. Just do it.

Still seeing bugs? Well then something is wrong with your hardware.

I've taken my seed and run it on 5 machines, all running very damn well (spare and older machines) I have them run scripts that open, close, launch and do finder operations all day (thanks automator!) to test stability. Things are really stable in this build. Very impressed with apple's work so early in the game.

The main reason is you probably havent tested as exhaustively as we have.
Or your numbers of equipment you tested on is much lower than ours.
We have tested Tiger on 128 of our 1835 Xserves at the same time.

and our findings clearly show that over the last 3 beta releases things have gotten much worse.
Now that doesnt mean that the next release couldnt fix a ton of stuff... because it could. But so far that hasnt been the case.

 

[~loserman~]

Tested it as exhaustively as you have? I'll bet $50 that you installed over a previous beta, or had a previous OS on the drive.

Well... I guess you lose. When do I get my $50.

Still seeing bugs? Well then something is wrong with your hardware.

I seriously doubt the 128 XServe G5's we installed it on are all bad, because we have seen the problems on all of them.

 

[bosrs1]

Well... I guess you lose. When do I get my $50.




I seriously doubt the 128 XServe G5's we installed it on are all bad, because we have seen the problems on all of them.

Was that $50 overall or per machine?

 

[Plymouthbreezer]

Do this (AND DO NOT USE AN IPOD) If you don't follow these steps to the letter and install off the DVD (no running osinstall.mpkg from disk!!) or you will get a horrible experience

1. Burn the DVD from ADC Seed of latest build (8a393 as of today....)
2. Starup from disk.
3. FORMAT drive for Tiger to go on (very important)
4. Install Tiger

If any other OS was previously on there, tiger 10.3, 10.2 even if tiger tells you upgrade or install over AND EVEN archive and install... It will cause problems. During testing clean install each time is the only way to go. The last thing as a build nears gm that's done is insure that the install updates and overwrites correctly.

Actually, I did everything you said, expect for running off my iPod. The past few times it's been running fine (and not as slowly). 🙂

 

[Montserrat]

Soon please

I know at least 3 people who are waiting to get a new Mac depending on Tiger's arrival. I've shown them all the things that Tiger's going to be able to do, so perhaps it's my fault they haven't bought into Apple hardware yet, but with the release so imminant it seems a shame not to take advantage of it.

However, I'd rather have a bug-free (I know - that's impossible, but hey... close as possible) release rather than some hashed together POS M$ style. In the meantime, I just have to pay my daily visits to the quicktime files to gawp... Damn it looks cool...

 

[wdlove]

I don't think that they are the only three. It seems that many are waiting to purchase a new Mac until WWDC and Tiger. Especially with the expected upgrades.

 

[Plymouthbreezer]

I don't think that they are the only three. It seems that many are waiting to purchase a new Mac until WWDC and Tiger. Especially with the expected upgrades.

Yeah... Same here... I want an iMac G5 20", but will wait til this time next year so she ships with Tiger, and by then, it will be faster. 🙂

 

[FFTT]

The new WWDC link on the Apple home page
gives a strong indication that the expo will be all about
Tiger.

I can't imagine all those industry pros going there for training
seminars at considerable cost, if they had nothing to train on.

Lets hope their slogan "Spotlight on Innovation"
brings many good things to those of us who have waited.

 

[MacSA]

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=10983&Page=2&pagePos=3

Macworld UK caught up with the company's vice president of worldwide developer relations, Ron Okamoto, to discuss Apple's focus at the event this year.

Okamoto told Macworld this year's event will focus on Mac OS X 10.4 "Tiger". "There's so many great things in Tiger that we really want to help developers use within their applications," he said.

 

[andrewm]

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=10983&Page=2&pagePos=3

Macworld UK caught up with the company's vice president of worldwide developer relations, Ron Okamoto, to discuss Apple's focus at the event this year.

Okamoto told Macworld this year's event will focus on Mac OS X 10.4 "Tiger". "There's so many great things in Tiger that we really want to help developers use within their applications," he said.

You left this part out:

In response to an interview question as to his overall opinion of all of Tiger's new features, Okamoto responded, "They're gRRRRRRReat!"

So sorry. I couldn't resist.