If they don't, they simply don't need SL...some people are still absolutely happy running Panther or Tiger, for that matter...
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If they don't, they simply don't need SL...some people are still absolutely happy running Panther or Tiger, for that matter...
If they don't, they simply don't need SL...some people are still absolutely happy running Panther or Tiger, for that matter...
yeah but some people (like me) need to do certain things.
i know with music it's called GAS
Gear Acquisition Syndrome.
The "stretch" in fat binary size due to x86+x64 would be comparable to the PPC stretch. All the code would need to be duplicated for each architecture, just like it was duplicated for PPC.
I was thinking that as well. Evidently if you're running a mostly 64-bit collection of apps in OS X and you launch a 32-bit apps the system has to load the whole 32-bit framework stack.
I've already seen developers making comments like "well I'm my app doesn't need to be 64-bit and it may run slower"
my answer is "I don't care" we'll see what sort of resource hit running 32-bit and 64-bit frameworks at the same time does but I'm certainly going to be bugging developers to compile to 64-bit if the resource hit is even mildly noticeable.
How about OS X Garfield?
Naa, I think Snow Leopard is the way to go
i support os x garfield!!
ya right, thats why its taking so much time.. just wait for the release and you'll know that snow leopard will be much more than a "service pack"
its going to be a different enough os, how would they make people buy otherwise, and it'll have really good performance.
When does this come out? June or September?
I think Sept at the latest. Apple's already increasing the speed of the seeds and by WWDC we probably will have a feature complete seed go out with a revised user interface.
nobody really knows, but my best prediction is july or august.
apple said about a year so they dont want to delay it much. also the builds are rapidly getting better.(and i have a feeling that they have much more going on inside that than they release to the developers) wwdc is a major event and it cant go without any talk of snow leopard. i think they'll preview it in june with a july release date. or if things dont quite work out right august should be a safe bet.
anyway nobody can really Know cause, even apple is trying to finish it as soon as possible, but if something goes wrong nobody can predict it.
lets be a bit more patient here and wait. we'll know when its out, and wondering when it will come out can only make us all jittery. no point served (though its exactly what i'm doing.)
Well what's Lion going to have?
Well then
I'm gonna have to start compiling a list of what 10.7 "Lion" should have.
Technology is moving so fast it's hard to see even two years into the future let alone 3 which is likely when 10.7 will be shipping.
Well then
I'm gonna have to start compiling a list of what 10.7 "Lion" should have.
Technology is moving so fast it's hard to see even two years into the future let alone 3 which is likely when 10.7 will be shipping.
Wrong. Modern studies have shown that genetically, it's closer to the Panthera family (Leopard, Tiger, Lion, Jaguar) than anything else. It was once thought to belong to a family of its own due to its inability to roar (the snow leopard makes wimpy sounds), so they called it Uncia Uncia, but nowadays they're leaning towards Panthera Uncia. In short, it's a leopard that says "meow".
Not to jump in the middle of this pointless dispute, but the other poster was correct. Snow Leopard and Leopard are in fact different species. Its genetic proximity to other big cats was never contested.
Moreover, panthera is not a family, and whether Snow Leopards are members of that taxonomic group, I do not know. All big cats are members of the Felidae family, but that's neither here nor there. It's not clear why it matters, but at the very least, if you're going to interject a "correction", make sure you're correct.
Right, I somehow read it as subfamily rather than species.
It's a subfamily. My point was that the snow leopard was long believed to be a more distant relative to the pantherinae subfamily than it actually is, partly due to the fact that what distinguishes tigers, lions, jaguars and leopards from the rest of the felidae family is anatomical changes that gave them the ability to roar. Therefore they gave it a whole 'nother genus (Uncia). But DNA studies have shown that it's actually a bona fide member of the panthera subfamily. There's no consensus on whether to call it Uncia Uncia or Panthera Uncia, though.
Very interesting read guys, btw isn't panther a member of the panthera family surely? And which other "big (or small for that matter) cats" do not roar, other than my much beloved homely cats. And (hope I am not tiring anyone here) is the roar stemming from some anatomical vocal chord difference or from some brain function responsible for it, and what purpose does it serve, to scare other animals away and establish superiority?
Your facts are correct, but you reach the wrong conclusion. Panthera is a genus. A snow leopard, Panthera Uncia, is still a different species from the leopard (Panthera Pardus), tiger (Panthera Tigris), jaguar (Panthera Onca) and lion (Panthera Leo).
Edit: matticus008 is right, this is a pointless discussion. Lets get back to Mac OS X Snow Leopard. Though I do wish that Apple would give a percentage of their revenues from each OS sale to fund conservation efforts for that cat species.
Let me put it this way: The words Snow Leopard are a variation of the word Leopard. I'm still talking about marketing. Apple doesn't care about exact genus and species of a Snow Leopard. They are just marketing it with those words to show that SL is mostly a stability/performance improvement to Leopard.
They are saying that they are happy for now with the feature set of Leopard and just want to improve other aspects of it to make it as stable and efficient as possible. As for the average consumer, they don't care about OpenCL or Grand Central. I'm not trying to downplay the importance of these new features, as I think they are fantastic, but as far as the consumer is concerned, it's all just under-the-hood improvements.
I do agree with you that this is not just Leopard SP1. There is a lot more to it that deserves more than just a 10.5.x
The terminology is a bit messed up. In North America, panther is synonymous with cougar... but the cougar isn't part of the Panthera genus (a.k.a. the Big Cats), it's a Puma.
Cougar (a.k.a. Puma, Panther, Mountain Lion) = Puma Concolor
Jaguarundi = Puma yagouaroundi
In Latin America, "panther" is used to mean jaguar, and in the rest of the world, a panther is a leopard.
In other words, if everyone just stops using the word panther, all will be fine and non-confusing.
Tiger, lions, leopards and jaguars roar. The rest of the cats (big or small) don't.
They used to think that it stemmed from the hyoid bone (a bone that serves as an anchor for the tongue) not being fully ossified, meaning it's still a bit soft, like cartilege... but now they know the roaring ability is due to an elongated larynx. The snow leopard has the same soft hyoid bone as the four "real" big cats, but still can't roar.
That, or it's just an in-joke about leaving PowerPC users out in the cold.
i wonder if Apple wont use Puma and Cougar as they appear to be exactly the same.
haha but i dont think Apple's Marketing Department cares if a Jaguar, Panther, Leopard and Snow Leopard are of the same species they just have different names and appear to have different markings/colours to the public which is all that matters! it looks like Anuba has done some research and is most likely right.
… but experts and geeks can converse about it of course!
haha but i dont think Apple's Marketing Department cares if a Jaguar, Panther, Leopard and Snow Leopard are of the same species they just have different names and appear to have different markings/colours to the public which is all that matters!
it looks like Anuba has done some research and is most likely right.… but experts and geeks can converse about it of course!
What I'm wondering is if they're making up the names as they go along, or if they had a list of cats from the beginning and are ticking them off one by one. They only have one or two usable cats left... the rest have ridiculous names and/or are small and wimpy.i wonder if Apple wont use Puma and Cougar as they appear to be exactly the same.
haha but i dont think Apple's Marketing Department cares if a Jaguar, Panther, Leopard and Snow Leopard are of the same species they just have different names and appear to have different markings/colours to the public which is all that matters!
but experts and geeks can converse about it of course!
i think they may have licensed a few big cats at the start and have licensed Cougar a while after that. i dont think they even did that with Snow Leopard though and just went for it.
still holding out for Lion though, might be the last version -> king of the jungle! (well animal kingdom really they dont live in the jungle).
still holding out for Lion though, might be the last version -> king of the jungle! (well animal kingdom really they dont live in the jungle
).
That's still not correct, even if that is in fact what happened when you read.
No, panthera is neither a family nor a subfamily. It is a genus. Pantherinae is the subfamily, not panthera.
Again, a fact never disputed. Whatever the taxonomic location of Snow Leopard, it is a distinct species.
Can we all just let this go and get back on topic? This whole biology safari is nothing more than a result of mistake. The orthographic similarity between Leopard and Snow Leopard is intentional--just as Apple has already disclosed. There's no doubt of Apple's intent to link the two conceptually to help let-down consumers expecting something totally new or PPC users when they move past denial through to acceptance.
Good idea, let's everyone resist the urge to put in the last word on the [off-]topic....
Right. Here's another idea for you: Save your nitpicking for someone who A) cares, B) is a native English speaker. Genus, family, subfamily, subspecies, umbrella, glove, gordian knot, whatever you call that crap in English is fine with me.
Also, Frodo Dumbledore-Beeblebrox hangs out with birds called "wookies" in Star Trek V: Battlestar Galacticum. Discuss.
Yes, to settle the matter of the snow leopard's relation to the leopard. Not to get caught in an anal-retentive vortex.