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I really think they're releasing this today because they know how much of a failure the "new iPad" will be. They're trying to take the focus away from their inability to make a good tablet.

The iPad is an awful tablet and a poor experience compared to the Mac. I love MAC OS X, it's beautiful, intuitive and powerful something which iOS is not!!

"AppleSpeculator - macrumors newbie"...obviously some android d*ck rider who created an account here just to talk smack about Apple.

I on the other hand cannot wait for this update, Apple has a lot of cool things up their sleeves.
 
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I tried the AirPlay feature last night with the new apple tv it is nice, at first I thought how am I gonna navigate the screen then I remembered air mouse.
 
The only problem is that notification center only works with Appstore apps :(
Yeah, checked my list of applications that use Growl and are not from the App Store:

1Password (is available on App Store though on Lion, I'm using SL)
Arq
Daisydisk (crippled version on App Store)
Dropbox
Firefox
Flow
Handbrake
Hazel
Knox
Max
Quicksilver
Skype
Sparrow (is available on App Store)
Spotify
Transmit
VLC

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I really think they're releasing this today because they know how much of a failure the "new iPad" will be. They're trying to take the focus away from their inability to make a good tablet.

The iPad is an awful tablet and a poor experience compared to the Mac. I love MAC OS X, it's beautiful, intuitive and powerful something which iOS is not!!

if you're going to come out with claims like that you better look for an argument 1st! this is not the place for that kind of talk!

You might not like iOS but a lot of people do! If you want to speak freely about how much you hate it at least explain what you don't like + add to the discussion.
 
The updates that are involved with ML are far more significant than what you are talking about. Lots get changed under the hood that nobody really talks about since they aren't marketed that way.

Kernel updates occur all the time. They do not normally make the list of "features" in the consumer readable notes and marketing since only developers would really be able to understand. Its just normal life cycle stuff.

Apple always used to make a big deal of OS new features and improvements, and it wasn't just "developers" that were interested. But of course that was back when they were Apple Computer Inc.
 
The only problem is that notification center only works with Appstore apps :(

This is not true. If an app is signed properly and not on the Mac App Store then it can send notifications to Notification Center. You can forward Growl messages to Notification Center using Hiss.
 
Awesome. Mountain Lion will destroy all the "competition".

Considering the reception of win8 CP there might not be all that much competition...

I think that there needs to be more competition in this area, if win8 doesn't take off then apple might have free reign. We couldn't have them getting sloppy now could we.
 
I really think they're releasing this today because they know how much of a failure the "new iPad" will be. They're trying to take the focus away from their inability to make a good tablet.

The iPad is an awful tablet and a poor experience compared to the Mac. I love MAC OS X, it's beautiful, intuitive and powerful something which iOS is not!!

hahahahahahahahahaahahahaha :D:D:D:D:D
 
Yeah, checked my list of applications that use Growl and are not from the App Store:

1Password (is available on App Store though on Lion, I'm using SL)
Arq
Daisydisk (crippled version on App Store)
Dropbox
Firefox
Flow
Handbrake
Hazel
Knox
Max
Quicksilver
Skype
Sparrow (is available on App Store)
Spotify
Transmit
VLC

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Because there is an API you have to use to make it work.
 
Awesome. Mountain Lion will destroy all the "competition".

I'm sorry but in what sense? Windows will undoubtably sell more copies, make more money and end up on more computers throughout the world. What aspect of this is "destroyed" Even Windows Vista sold more and had a higher market share than all versions of OS X combined.

I'm sure Mountion Lion will be a welcome upgrade for Mac users and will be mostly well received.
 
I really think they're releasing this today because they know how much of a failure the "new iPad" will be. They're trying to take the focus away from their inability to make a good tablet.

The iPad is an awful tablet and a poor experience compared to the Mac. I love MAC OS X, it's beautiful, intuitive and powerful something which iOS is not!!

Straight up troll
 
no im not John C Dvorak. i dont even know who he is. I was just giving my opinion and now people are bullying me. This is not a nice forum.

He is known for his provocative predictions (which some commentators having the benefit of hindsight later dismiss as having being simply inaccurate at the time they were made) regarding the perceived viability and future of various technological devices,
 
He is known for his provocative predictions (which some commentators having the benefit of hindsight later dismiss as having being simply inaccurate at the time they were made) regarding the perceived viability and future of various technological devices,

And also for being a curmudgeon!
 
Xcode 4.4 Developer Preview 2 for Mountain Lion

They also released Xcode 4.4 Developer Preview 2 for Mountain Lion, which supports development using iOS 5.1 devices, the previous one was limited to iOS 5.0 device for debugging etc.

ML works fine for my day to day work. And Airplay works great.

VMWare still doesn't work though. Wish they release an update, i don't think it will happen till a public release of ML.
 
I'm sorry but in what sense? Windows will undoubtably sell more copies, make more money and end up on more computers throughout the world. What aspect of this is "destroyed" Even Windows Vista sold more and had a higher market share than all versions of OS X combined.

I'm sure Mountion Lion will be a welcome upgrade for Mac users and will be mostly well received.
Indeed. OSX vs. Windows 8 is not interesting, in terms of sale anyway.

iPad vs. Windows 8-based tablets, on the other hand...
 
Seems very soon, it feels like just a week or ago since I installed the first preview...

Totally off topic, Safari on my original iPad still hasn't crashed since 5.1!
 
This is not true. If an app is signed properly and not on the Mac App Store then it can send notifications to Notification Center. You can forward Growl messages to Notification Center using Hiss.

Is this only for the previews, though? It would make sense for Apple to not require the Mac App Store during the testing period.

I heard that they were going to only allow Mac App Store apps to use notification center. How much truth is there to this?

Also, how do they enforce this? OS X is not a locked down environment by any means.
 
I heard that they were going to only allow Mac App Store apps to use notification center. How much truth is there to this?

This makes sense from Apple's perspective because they want people to only use the Mac App Store to download programs (which is safer, easier and more controlled).

For those of us who think nothing of downloading programs anywhere off the net, this is obviously an annoying attribute, but hardly surprising given how Apple has a hold on their eco-system.
 
This makes sense from Apple's perspective because they want people to only use the Mac App Store to download programs (which is safer, easier and more controlled).

For those of us who think nothing of downloading programs anywhere off the net, this is obviously an annoying attribute, but hardly surprising given how Apple has a hold on their eco-system.

It doesn't really make sense, though. Developers are geeks, and iOS apps are developed on OS X. If you cripple and lock down the OS, and take away features that geeks enjoy using, less people will want to develop for iOS and the platform will suffer.

Apple should have a marked interest in keeping Mac OS X a fun and powerful system for geeks along with keeping it easy to use for the mainstream. They've done a good job of this so far, and the platform has done well. Screwing it up now by adding in restrictive code is not good in the long run.
 
I really think they're releasing this today because they know how much of a failure the "new iPad" will be. They're trying to take the focus away from their inability to make a good tablet.

The iPad is an awful tablet and a poor experience compared to the Mac. I love MAC OS X, it's beautiful, intuitive and powerful something which iOS is not!!

edit: no im not John C Dvorak. i dont even know who he is. I was just giving my opinion and now people are bullying me. This forum is not too civil.

At first I thought you may be being sarcastic...(seeing how not one single company has been able to make what Apple has made with the iPad, thats not opinion either its a researchable fact).

Truth hurts, doesn't it?

And now I know you're just trolling.
 
Apple always used to make a big deal of OS new features and improvements, and it wasn't just "developers" that were interested. But of course that was back when they were Apple Computer Inc.

No. That was back then when Mac OS X was primitive and every iteration "had" to include many more big features, because so many necessary things were missing. OS X has matured by the time of Tiger and most stuff that came after that were less impressive. It's not surprising at all. For 3D developers, Lion finally brought support for OpenGL 3, which was missing since the days of Leopard and SL should have included it in the first place. Yet it wasn't really a big deal for most people, because consumers don't care. Even though this is a big deal for many developers.
 
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