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OS X 10.9 to Bring Enhancements to Finder, Safari, Multiple Monitor Support, and Multitasking
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Are there any "power users" left on apple ? most of them have left for PCs as the MacPro isnt getting any love ?
First bringing features from ios to os means MORE features not less.
There is no feature coming from ios till now that removed something from osx.
Unix has already a feature of pausing apps. Since version 1.0 i would assume. Every linux has this feature. It is nothing new.
And you need this because applications USE resources like
-> memory allocations not freed
-> large dlls, plugin memory
-> having an inactive ui that nevertheless always asks its event queue if something happens to get active again.
And believe me from a developers experience ... the last point IS a real battery braker.
So having an api there a developer can say "Hey os, please suspend me, i don't have anything to do" is a feature every system administrator wishes for years. Because he does not longer have to do this manually.
And thats exactly the new thing about it.
Finally have a mechanism there an app can suspend it self.
Because till now this is not possible for the application to do this even if you want to do it. (And i now 3 of my applications which will really be happy about that feature)
Well they buggered up Expose a long time ago; lets see what other damage they can do with this update!
I agree OS X is too bloated. When I go into System/Library there are 144 services being loaded at startup. On my iMac that's almost 2GB of memory. The last time I used OS X that didn't lag and drag was Snow Leopard.
Well there's always Windows 8, that super awesome, full featured, allow the user to do anything they want OS that's fully designed for the desktop.
Think. When iOS is a castrated version of OS/X, the only way to "bring iOS features to OS/X" is to cut more in OS/X.
As far as technical side is concerned, it does not matter if application frees allocated memory or not. If the memory is not being actively used, it gets swapped to the disk. And BTW, on UNIX systems novice users often get confused thinking that the app does not free the memory because of the way UNIX system shows memory usage. When the application allocates memory, its memory footprint as shown by OS grows. When the app de-allocates the memory it does not show in the UNIX reporting (but the memory does get freed)
Hi i am power user and i use a macbook pro retina.
I do stuff like the water simulation of iron man on my macbook.
see http://www.flowlines.info
I compille flowline multiple versions a day. On my pc it takes about 2 hours ( 8 core xeon, 32gb ram) On my macbook it takes less than half an hour (mainly because of the ssd).
Simulation speed on my macbook is about 90% ... but i can take it with me to the customers and in the meeting room if necessary. Can't do that with the xeon workstation.
And for power user
i work about 12-14 hours a day with it, compiling on linux, windows, macos using parallels to virtualize all three os. Do 3d and 2d, compositing and video cut with it.
So yes .. there are power users. Real power users don't complain because they know they get what they need.
If I had to guess, you could probably still do that by hovering over the tab you want to move the file to, and it'll automatically switch to that tab, allowing you to drop the file there. That's how OS X usually works anyway.
It is a castrated version in mechanisms of apis that are not supported on ios (and in many cases this as changed over the years).
But it has its own mechanisms wich are additions. And they are ported back.
So if you have Features from IOS wich are NOT present on OSX.
And you ADD it to OSX ...
that means
you have MORE on osX.
Or just as simple as
1+1 = 2
and NOT
1+1 = 0
The ability to continue running background apps should be a default whereas switching selected ones on or off should be an option.
Why have a multicore machine with 4, 8 or more gigs of RAM? Very few consumer apps utilize that much processing power on their own, but combined it's a different story. Beside, why is such a feature necessary on a Mac Mini, iMac or MacPro? Heck right now, my MacPro is in the shop and I'm using my 15" MBP plugged in (as a dual screen with my 30" ACD attached). With my MBP plugged in, I certainly don't need to conserve battery life by having background apps suspended "in-state."
Why have a multicore machine with 4, 8 or more gigs of RAM? Very few consumer apps utilize that much processing power on their own, but combined it's a different story. Beside, why is such a feature necessary on a Mac Mini, iMac or MacPro? Heck right now, my MacPro is in the shop and I'm using my 15" MBP plugged in (as a dual screen with my 30" ACD attached). With my MBP plugged in, I certainly don't need to conserve battery life by having background apps suspended "in-state."
Although I hoped that "OS X 10.9 to Bring..." was followed by ZFS when I clicked on it, those enhancements sound really nice, too.
I'm looking forward to see what they came up with.
I'm looking forward to see what they came up with.
once you realize you're dealing with teenagers and mouth-breathers in mom's basement, reading these forums becomes much more bearable.
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And since iOS isn't a castrated
rolleyes version of OS X, then your hypothetical dissolves into thin air.Do you think literally every feature and aspect of iOS already exists in OS X, albeit in a superior version in OS X? That's the only way for your comment to make sense - to think that any feature from iOS, incorporated into OS X, would diminish OS X.
Not if you make such crippling features completely optional, as Apple has in the past with both sudden and automatic termination.
I also want to point out that telling people to "think" never made anyone think of anything. In fact in my experience, people's brains tend to recede further into the void.
The way we've interacted with computers hasn't changed so much, though what we use computers for has changed significantly over the course of OS X. We still operate computers with traditional inputs such as a keyboard and trackpad/mouse, and Apple seems pretty set in keeping it like that. I wouldn't want the GUI changed just for changes sake.
As a wise man once said: 'Different' and 'new' is relatively easy. Doing something that's genuinely better is very hard.
I agree with all the other statements about the file systems and underlying technologies though.
wrong, wrong, wrong. they still consume CPU cycles which in turn means battery. ex: a photo slideshow that cannot be seen since its in the background, yet still continues to swap photos.
nobody is suggesting OS X is going to start closing your "batch" applications. as has been stated a 100 times it's a (rumored) new feature to enable app devs to allow their apps to be suspended.
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Disable Automatic Termination on 10.7/10.8
Better multi-monitor support is always welcome, as are improvements to Safari.
Really don't care for the tabbed browsing & tagging in finder, but whatever.
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defaults write NSGlobalDomain NSDisableAutomaticTermination -bool trueBetter multi-monitor support is always welcome, as are improvements to Safari.
Really don't care for the tabbed browsing & tagging in finder, but whatever.
Well there's always Windows 8, that super awesome, full featured, allow the user to do anything they want OS that's fully designed for the desktop.
Oh, I'd probably go with Linux, since 80% of my work is programming in a POSIX environment. With windows or OS x in a VM to run photoshop. Meh.
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Fix what you have
Sure would be nice if Apple devs fixed what they had before rolling out a new OS but this seems to be the trend these days, sadly
Sure would be nice if Apple devs fixed what they had before rolling out a new OS but this seems to be the trend these days, sadly
Well, if it's described as a port of the iOS feature, then yes, I am concerned. iOS does NOT permit apps to continue performing calculations while they're backgrounded.
You can have the same feature for the end-user on both computers (the feature being smart multitasking) even if they run differently. Problem solved.
If someone told you that Windows machines and Macs both have the feature of 'file management' would you pipe up and say they are different features because they do it differently? Maybe you would.
Well, the same way i do it now? By swiping left and right with 4 fingers on the trackpad. Alternatively, by using the combination i have set up, ctrl+l/r arrow.
I just want to have a mechanism to put what i want on the monitors, and not have the stupid extended desktop.