iphone is the only one you can buy.. and its not just iPod with OSX, new imacs, new keyboard,new mouse , news displays , all those are coming.
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iphone is the only one you can buy.. and its not just iPod with OSX, new imacs, new keyboard,new mouse , news displays , all those are coming.
please ... just lost an oportunity to say somethin smart.
I really believe that people expecting a simple iPhone without the phone are going to be disappointed. Apple (and AT&T) are going to try to keep those two product lines very different. Yes, it likely will be touchscreen, but I expect it to look different. Remember, many people do not opt for the Video iPods...I believe most by the Nano's, so it should be interesting to see if Apple revamps the whole line.
On a feature request note (a feature I want in the iPhone as well)...we need to be able to playback full SD H.264 files. It is ridiculous that the iPhone cannot playback files larger than 640xN. It would be nice to be able to have one copy a of DVD encoded that works on my iTV, iPhone, and new iPod (which I might not even get if there is not much difference between it and the iPhone).
On a feature request note (a feature I want in the iPhone as well)...we need to be able to playback full SD H.264 files. It is ridiculous that the iPhone cannot playback files larger than 640xN. It would be nice to be able to have one copy a of DVD encoded that works on my iTV, iPhone, and new iPod (which I might not even get if there is not much difference between it and the iPhone).
I realize this may be unlikely, but I agree that the iPod would be an iPhone minus the Phone. It'd be a blast browsing the net while listening to tunes, while sipping a latte at my local Caribou Coffee (mmm.......... Caribou......).
We've all heard that the iPod is "all about the music" but more recently, the iPod has taken on more of a PMP (portable meadia player) stance rather than just an MP3 player. That being said, a device that played music, videos, browsed mobile YouTube, and surfed the web would be one KILLER PMP.
Besides. If they're stuffing OS X into the thing, they better be using it for more than just CoverFlow and a few licks of Quartz rendering... What a waste that would be...
-Clive
We've all heard that the iPod is "all about the music" but more recently, the iPod has taken on more of a PMP (portable meadia player) stance rather than just an MP3 player. That being said, a device that played music, videos, browsed mobile YouTube, and surfed the web would be one KILLER PMP.
Besides. If they're stuffing OS X into the thing, they better be using it for more than just CoverFlow and a few licks of Quartz rendering... What a waste that would be...
-Clive
iPhone Nano?
Interesting what these financial analysts come up with:
http://investing.reuters.co.uk/news...722_RTRIDST_0_BUSINESS-APPLE-NANOPHONE-DC.XML
Interesting what these financial analysts come up with:
http://investing.reuters.co.uk/news...722_RTRIDST_0_BUSINESS-APPLE-NANOPHONE-DC.XML
Well I have an iPhone and absolutely love it -- and so does everyone I show it off to. And yes, as early adopters we kinda get screwed in a year -- but that comes with the territory.
Someone had written that eventually the iPhone & iPod will merge -- well it already has! The current iPhone and future iPod are stopgaps until the capacity catches up**. I don't think Jobs wants us to have two devices in our pockets... that's ridiculous... ONE device in our pockets, and then a laptop at home (and
TV, maybe an iMac 
)
**In terms of capacity, flash memory is marching forward nicely -- it's much faster and especially more stable than HD's, especially in a mobile environment. I can see flash eventually pushing HD's out the door -- and in a few years the iPhone/iPod will have as much memory as the current models do. Who needs a 200GB of storage anyway?
The Nano will replace the old 'bulky' iPod. That's what I do now -- Nano for the gym, car, etc -- iPhone for everyday stuff...
Someone had written that eventually the iPhone & iPod will merge -- well it already has! The current iPhone and future iPod are stopgaps until the capacity catches up**. I don't think Jobs wants us to have two devices in our pockets... that's ridiculous... ONE device in our pockets, and then a laptop at home (and
TV, maybe an iMac )**In terms of capacity, flash memory is marching forward nicely -- it's much faster and especially more stable than HD's, especially in a mobile environment. I can see flash eventually pushing HD's out the door -- and in a few years the iPhone/iPod will have as much memory as the current models do. Who needs a 200GB of storage anyway?
The Nano will replace the old 'bulky' iPod. That's what I do now -- Nano for the gym, car, etc -- iPhone for everyday stuff...
I like my ipod (I have a 40 gb, grayscale - can't remember which gen).
For me the most important features are:
Capacity - I have 60 GB of music alone. I would like to sometimes be able to use lossless or higher quality music and have the storage to do so. Capacity is very important. 8 GB is not enough! Do you think it's possible to have a 60-80 gb flash ipod in the near future at a reasonable price?
Battery life - Very important as there are times you just forget or don't have time to charge the thing.
Features that I might use, but are not critical:
Wifi - Sure it would be fun to surf the internet or share music with others, but not a necessity. (It might be cool to share music that I wrote in Garageband with others)
Connectivity - It might be cool to be able to connect it to TV and be able to watch a movie with other people. (though one would need friends to actually do this)
For me the most important features are:
Capacity - I have 60 GB of music alone. I would like to sometimes be able to use lossless or higher quality music and have the storage to do so. Capacity is very important. 8 GB is not enough! Do you think it's possible to have a 60-80 gb flash ipod in the near future at a reasonable price?
Battery life - Very important as there are times you just forget or don't have time to charge the thing.
Features that I might use, but are not critical:
Wifi - Sure it would be fun to surf the internet or share music with others, but not a necessity. (It might be cool to share music that I wrote in Garageband with others)
Connectivity - It might be cool to be able to connect it to TV and be able to watch a movie with other people. (though one would need friends to actually do this)
Ok, I have another idea:
There will be two HDD based iPods...one will be an 80 gig, and be the same design as currently but cheaper. The other will be a full touchscreen iPod at 120 gigs. That will give the users a choice, and from that choice...Apple will know if people are ready for touchscreen iPods (like what they did with the iPod Photo). I think they are, but I also think that it's easier to use the current iPod (when working out especially) than the iPhone as an iPod.
The only thing that may slow the iPod's growth down, unfortunately, is the iPhone. It'd be great if the iPod also had a camera built in, wouldn't it?
I'm still curious as to what they will do with the design of the Nano. They have to up the capacity to around 16 gigs, it's time.
There will be two HDD based iPods...one will be an 80 gig, and be the same design as currently but cheaper. The other will be a full touchscreen iPod at 120 gigs. That will give the users a choice, and from that choice...Apple will know if people are ready for touchscreen iPods (like what they did with the iPod Photo). I think they are, but I also think that it's easier to use the current iPod (when working out especially) than the iPhone as an iPod.
The only thing that may slow the iPod's growth down, unfortunately, is the iPhone. It'd be great if the iPod also had a camera built in, wouldn't it?
I'm still curious as to what they will do with the design of the Nano. They have to up the capacity to around 16 gigs, it's time.
Well I have an iPhone and absolutely love it -- and so does everyone I show it off to. And yes, as early adopters we kinda get screwed in a year -- but that comes with the territory.
Someone had written that eventually the iPhone & iPod will merge -- well it already has! The current iPhone and future iPod are stopgaps until the capacity catches up**. I don't think Jobs wants us to have two devices in our pockets... that's ridiculous... ONE device in our pockets, and then a laptop at home (and
Actually, I don't think he minds...as long as both the devices in your pocket has an Apple logo on it.
I kid, I kid!
I agree with you. The Nano is pretty darn nice for the gym. I may actually get one when they refresh it. I don't want to take my iPhone to the gym, and I'd rather use a Nano than my current Shuffle in the gym. But 200 GB of storage is nothing to mock. That's an external HDD right there.
This article gives me some insight in what MacRumors thinks is "soon". Appearently, January 2008 is "soon".
iPal
Goodie! I want a handheld Mac that will run virtually all my software as well as being an iPod, address book, calendar, camera, calculator. I don't need a phone. I want a better Palm and if it would also run all my old Palm software that would be fantastic. I'm not looking for Halo or WOW but I would like to be able to run most applications. True MacOS X would be great.
Cheers
-Walter
Sugar Mountain Farm
in the mountains of Vermont
http://SugarMtnFarm.com/blog/
http://HollyGraphicArt.com/
http://NoNAIS.org
Goodie! I want a handheld Mac that will run virtually all my software as well as being an iPod, address book, calendar, camera, calculator. I don't need a phone. I want a better Palm and if it would also run all my old Palm software that would be fantastic. I'm not looking for Halo or WOW but I would like to be able to run most applications. True MacOS X would be great.
Cheers
-Walter
Sugar Mountain Farm
in the mountains of Vermont
http://SugarMtnFarm.com/blog/
http://HollyGraphicArt.com/
http://NoNAIS.org
I agree but battery life/size doesn't evolve subject to Moore's Law -- I mean considering how much the iPhone does it's almost a miracle that they can A) fit a battery in there and B) that it keeps a charge
Of course it depletes after a year and you need to throw another $100 or whatever at getting it fixed... bummer.
PS: Should this iPhone have more call forwarding features? My friend has some t-mobile phone that has all these 'if-then' statements built in to Call Forwarding... whereas the iPhone's is currently binary..
Stream .pls MP3 streams?!
Yawn, so the new iPod will have WiFi I hear, but can it stream .pls MP3 streams?! Also, why can't the iPhone? Pocket Tunes on Palm Treos do this just fine!
Yawn, so the new iPod will have WiFi I hear, but can it stream .pls MP3 streams?! Also, why can't the iPhone? Pocket Tunes on Palm Treos do this just fine!
i don't see Apple adding wi-fi to iPod. what you are basically saying is that Apple will make a iphone minus phone feature minus 52-72gb for $349. we are talking about $250 for phone features.
Apple isn't that stupid. That will eat up a lot of iPhone buyers.
what is possible, although unlikely, is the addition of RF in order to go along with Apple TV or Macs. it could be bluetooth, but I don't see wi-fi.
it will be just iPod with touchscreen. that's already good enough for $349.
the only way Apple will add wi-fi is by just giving widgets. No web browsers.
Apple isn't that stupid. That will eat up a lot of iPhone buyers.
what is possible, although unlikely, is the addition of RF in order to go along with Apple TV or Macs. it could be bluetooth, but I don't see wi-fi.
it will be just iPod with touchscreen. that's already good enough for $349.
the only way Apple will add wi-fi is by just giving widgets. No web browsers.
I'm still curious as to what they will do with the design of the Nano. They have to up the capacity to around 16 gigs, it's time.
I just might get a Nano then...
as for the full sized iPod, it will NOT be an iPhone sans iPod. Apple would be KILLING the sales of the iPhone if they offered the same tech for that much cheeper. No, it will be a natural progression- an iPod as we know it, with vastly updated software. I say, bring it on
So you are saying that Apple will purposefully cripple a device to extort people to buy another device?
Well we saw how well that worked with Apple TV...about a week. Apple has never had to do that, they used to simply believe in the quality of their products and trust that they would sell themselves. And they did. It is not uncommon to have multiple iPods. Did the Nano cannibalize the large iPod? Of course not. It either brought people into the iPod family sooner because it was more affordable or it gave an enthusiast a better iPod for certain activities in addition to their regular iPod. I don't believe for a minute they lost large iPod sales. Instead it expanded their brand and market share.
If with this new iPod, Apple played to the enthusiasm of users they would be much more successful. I would much rather have a device where I feel "What DOESN'T it do! It does everything every other device does and then goes OVER-THE-TOP and delivers WAY MORE!"
The iPod has felt this way pretty much until now - things have changed, innovation has happened, possibilities have expanded. It would be a shame for Apple to deliver less than what is possible. That is starting to sound like a Zune.
With the introduction of iTunes Plus the need for more storage is only going to increase. I'd be very surprised if the new ipod didn't have at least a 120GB version. However if they do go with the large touchscreen like the iPhone, which I'm sure they will then the battery life could become an issue. I don't think that we are quite there in terms of replacing the HDD with NAND Flash just yet for large capacity.
However has anyone considered a hybrid device that uses both HDD and NAND Flash. That way you could have your 120GB hard disk with all your stuff on it and say a 4GB or 8GB flash for caching purposes. That way any music or video you view often is copied to the flash relatively quickly allowing the hard drive to be turned off until it's needed again. This should increase the battery life fairly significantly over using the HDD all the time.
I'm also not sure that they will introduce wifi into the iPod so quickly after the iPhone. I have a feeling that at this point Apple will want to leave a fairly big dividing line between the iPod and the iPhone. An iPod is for music and video, an iPhone is a limited capacity iPod and a communications/internet device.
However has anyone considered a hybrid device that uses both HDD and NAND Flash. That way you could have your 120GB hard disk with all your stuff on it and say a 4GB or 8GB flash for caching purposes. That way any music or video you view often is copied to the flash relatively quickly allowing the hard drive to be turned off until it's needed again. This should increase the battery life fairly significantly over using the HDD all the time.
I'm also not sure that they will introduce wifi into the iPod so quickly after the iPhone. I have a feeling that at this point Apple will want to leave a fairly big dividing line between the iPod and the iPhone. An iPod is for music and video, an iPhone is a limited capacity iPod and a communications/internet device.
I can just hear Steve just before he unveils what you describe: "One more thing... We could've just taken an iPhone and removed all the phone features out and stuck in a big hard drive and they would've sold by the millions. But we wanted to do something else. Something different. Something better.
I give you iPod AV. 2 Million Songs in Your Pocket."
Oh, I think it's highly likely.
Think AppleTV and Airport Express connectivity!
iPod + WiFi is checkmate to competitors in the digital living room space.
Buy AAPL.
WIFi is a MUST for me as I want a portable Internet communicator/iPod all in one. No I don't want a phone nor the $60 a month charge. No WiFi no customer here! Pretty simple. But IM not holding my breath either!
You said it ALL! Anything else and I don't buy! Can you imagine not having the WiFi ability and as others suggest here, wait for Apple to add WiFi after AT&T agreement runs out! Yeah Right! In 5 years who knows what will be, but one thing is for sure WiFi will be a lot more pervasive then it is now.
I can't wait for a new iPod, my nano can now hold only about half my music library and if the iPod goes widescreen like the iPhone then I will be able to save some money by not getting one of those.
I can just hear Steve just before he unveils what you describe: "One more thing... We could've just taken an iPhone and removed all the phone features out and stuck in a big hard drive and they would've sold by the millions. But we wanted to do something else. Something different. Something better.
I give you iPod AV. 2 Million Songs in Your Pocket."
This is something I can see him saying. I feel apple might want to make iPhone buyers also want a new iPod, and storage is not a good enough reason by itself. Maybe an HD 720p iPod?
