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OS X El Capitan Review Roundup: Not Hugely Different From Yosemite, but Adds New Conveniences
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The name of El Capitan should gives you a clue already
This version is more on stability and polishing. The next cycle will see major changes, similar with Snow Leopard after Leopard. Not coincidentally, Snow Leopard is the most satisfying MacOS X to date. And so will be El Capitan.
"I haven't had Mail stop working yet and I'm a week into using it--that's a damn good sign"
This comment is a joke right?
This comment is a joke right?
Not really snow leopard 2, but more like a Leopard to Snow Leopard approach. Yosemite to El Capitan is like Leopard to Snow Leopard.
Why is it a joke. Many folks reported that Mail would randomly stop syncing out of nowhere. I've seen it a few times. In fact, I got so pissed, I simply stopped using it and switched to a third party product that've worked more reliably than Apple could ever do.
I did not have that problem under Yos, and I don't have it in El Cap. You might want to look elsewhere for a solution.
I meant a joke at the reviewer being happy that the mail issues seem to be improving (not that they aren't improved).
It's not a damn good sign. It's a travesty that (some) people were content that a core functionality of a core app didn't work as advertised for a very long time.
But perhaps that's my pessimism at the positivity of his review comment/the lack of context. Naturally the fixes are of course welcome (if not unjustifiably overdue) for those that haven't switched to a more reliable app/webapp.
Entertaining post.
But I like full-screen, which hides the menu bar anyway. And with split screen, I can now work with neat window snapping.
I've spent hours looking for a solution, but found nothing. I don't have time to spend on it any more (especially since it sounds like El Capitan may finally fix the problem anyways)... and I don't want to switch to another email client.
So, which features are you missing then?
I like this new approach. I'd rather fewer features without bugs than more features with a lot of bugs.
iWork updates are almost always separate, not part of OS X. You should see iWork near or the same day on El Cap via MAS.
Oh, sorry. I misunderstood. Yea, what Apple have done with Mail for the past 4 years has been unacceptable. I think the reviewer meant that he hasn't seen any problem in the first week, which is a good sign because every Mail.app problems I've seen were obvious on day 1 and worse later as more emails coming in. I am now seeing more issues in Safari 8.1 on El Cap as I continue to use it, so that's definitely not a good sign.
MailMate is my email client but the UI is just horribly outdated. If Apple fixes the problem, I'd be happy to switch back.
I saw the option a few days ago, turned it on, saw that it worked, didn't like it being hidden, then turned it back off. Whereas the dock takes up over 100 pixels of space along the bottom of the screen and is rarely ever useful (it's good for checking if a program is running, hidden, or not running, and for launching programs, and not much else), the menu bar is full of useful stuff. Various indicators about my computer, accessories, the day and time... it's a reliable way to check which application currently has focus... etc. Plus it only takes up 20 pixels of space.
I'm glad you can have it your way. But I don't want it that way. I wouldn't be too surprised if Apple removes the features from System Preferences before the final release of El Capitan... but if they do that, they'll probably leave in the system files so that you can enable it via Terminal or through Tinker Tool.
Not a joke at all unfortunately. Mail doesn't do sleep/wake very well in Yosemite, nor did it in Mavericks and before that I don't really remember. I must get the warning 'mail cannot connect to blah blah' several times a day. Of course it can connect, the servers are up, the network is working, it's just got hung up somewhere. Kill all the tasks, perhaps kill and restart mail, all fine again.
Mail also doesn't deal well with IMAP server connection limits. Many mail servers have a max IMAP persistent connection limit and when you have a laptop, or two, and a phone and an iPad all connected and occasionally trying to download mail, you can hit the limit, either you don't get a connection or one you had before gets closed, that's throws mail for a loop on OSX, iOS deals with it much better. This is true even of Apple's own @icloud.com service.
Just about every beta for the last 2 years has specified 'Mail improvements'. Perhaps with the death of discoveryd and the resurrection of mdnsResponder, and some work, I hope they have it this time.
Yosemite's been the worst for me and I don't mean because of UI. Completely barring the UI, I've had graphical glitches, Mail glitches, boot failures, system freezes, etc. The worst OS X experience ever.
And I waited until 10.10.3 to install and did 2 clean installs. The problems persist.
I'm getting so tired of not being able to only delete history without deleting all website data. I don't know why Apple has not fixed this stupid design issue.
Someone suggested going into show history and doing it there but this way also deletes everything.
Come on, Apple, you're really slipping when it comes to user experience
Someone suggested going into show history and doing it there but this way also deletes everything.
Come on, Apple, you're really slipping when it comes to user experience
I loved Snow Leopard as plenty of others did too, at the same time with the exception of Lion, I never had any problems with any OS and don't mind these incremental updates.
Yea
Yeah crazy, I've had really nothing for issues. Safari unexpectedly quit 3 times since fall for me, and a few bugs during daily startup and reboots. I can't complain, but know many who do.
Yeah crazy, I've had really nothing for issues. Safari unexpectedly quit 3 times since fall for me, and a few bugs during daily startup and reboots. I can't complain, but know many who do.
The worst bug for me is sometimes I restart my system and it doesn't come back on.
It's in a book arc stand with dozens of cables. I have to unhook it and boot it up and them re hook everything and my windows have to be resized.
You're not kidding. Ars Technica usually delivers fairly in-depth reviews, but his were by far the best. The review they currently have up on OS X El Capitan pales in comparison to any of his reviews. Quite a shame...