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OS X El Capitan Reviews: 'Solid as a Rock' and a Worthy Update Thanks to Performance Improvements

I'm cautiously optimistic. Happy to hear these good things about 10.11, but gun-shy after the first few versions of 10.10. Most likely I'll wait for 10.11.1.
 
tristengrant said:
Would it still be recommended to do a fresh install? Or would doing a regular update be just as good. Usually I do a fresh install.
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Not that I judge anyone for what they do in these situations, to each their own. But from my experience only I am speaking, my MacBook Pro Retina is a little over 3 years old. Starting with OS that came on it and everyone that got installed after, I have never done a fresh install and this thing still runs excellently. Rarely a hiccup. And I usually have 2 VMs running for development and OS X and the two windows VMs run great.
 
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1. Last I checked the SlingPlayer update didn't work with my Public Beta. Not sure if there are any other outstanding comparability issues.

2. I like split view but BetterSnapTool accomplishes the Windows style snapping split view and allows for top/bottom halves and quarters or half plus two quarters which is nice.

3. My big issue with Mission Control is that the tiles up top have been shrunk to names until you hover over, at which point it expands to show the Yosemite style desktops/full screen apps. I feel like this adds a step. On a 13" laptop I can see the need for this but on my 27" iMac I don't. I'd like a checkbox to disable this feature.

4. On my MacBook Air, Mail still has stability issues on the public beta.
 
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tristengrant said:
Would it still be recommended to do a fresh install? Or would doing a regular update be just as good. Usually I do a fresh install.
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There are certainly proponents of the fresh install around here, but generally if your current install is working well, an upgrade install will work fine for you. IMO in most cases all the work if a fresh install is a complete waste of time.

Even in cases where an upgrade install causes issues, those are normally just incompatibility with third party utilities and applications that are easy to diagnose and fix.
 
How about releasing EC for older 64 bit and 32 bit systems, ie Mac Pro 1,1 and higher!
That way even more people can upgrade to iOS 9!
 
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xgman said:
"Solid as a rock"? Rock Cocaine Crack maybe . . . . Hardly solid as a rock from what I can see and postings on macrumors forums.
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These forums are a great way to see the kind of problems you might face with an upgrade, but they are not at all representative of the frequency of said problems. People post far more about issues than they do about successful installations.

If you were to go by these forums, every piece of software ever written is a piece of bug-ridden junk.
 
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bbeagle said:
"rootless" is a feature that makes your Mac MORE secure.

You've still got root - you can still use 'sudo' - You've just got another layer of protection. The 'root' user can't write to /System, /bin, /sbin or /usr (except /usr/local). A few other security things 'root' user can't do as well. It protects you from having software ask for the root user, you give it root user privileges, and then it modifies your system files. It can't do this anymore.

Look here: http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/193368/what-is-the-rootless-feature-in-el-capitan-really

(You can turn it off if you want as well)
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I was aware of that. It's still scary, because I fear that Apple is going to castrate OS X the way iOS is castrated (although I believe that it's a good thing for a mobile OS). Rootless in itself shouldn't be too much of a problem, I just hope that it's not the begin of something.
 
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I'll be preparing for a fresh install tonight. I'm still rocking my 2012 iMac.
 
Wondering if tomorrow's release will be identical to the GM candidate I already have (1.7.27) ?
 
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I was aware of that. It's still scary, because I fear that Apple is going to castrate OS X the way iOS is castrated (although I believe that it's a good thing for a mobile OS). Rootless in itself shouldn't be too much of a problem, I just hope that it's not the begin of something.
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I have no doubt most OSes will be secured like iOS within 5-10 years, because 99% of the population will want devices to just run apps on. This is the way it's going.

There will always be those 1% of devices people like us can use, but things will be locked down for the majority of systems.

Another car analogy :) How open were cars from the 1890s to 1950s? You could work on whatever you wanted. Today, cars are extremely hard to change and fix. They've gone from open to closed.
 
I'm on a mid 2010 Mac mini 4gb ram running yosemite and it's awful. Like, really almost unusable, it takes forever to start. It takes about 3 minutes for safari to open. Even longer for iTunes.

. I haven't been following news on El capitan but does anyone know if it will be better than yosemite?

I've seen loads of posts online with people having the same problem as me.
 
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