OS X Mountain Lion Bringing Automatic App Downloads to Mac

[nokuchikushi]

Why can't they just have "inform of update when app if available when app launches" like most of the apps you buy off-App Store do today?

I don't like having to manually check the App Store for an update, but neither would I want them to auto-update without my knowledge.

In ML you get exactly that - a notice saying updates are available, with the option to open the App Store and update them.

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Close,
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Oh really, Close!
Will this thing ever learn, Close, Close, Close........

9 months later... Getting board yet?

ODD but I am on the latest ML release and I only get a notification box telling me updates are available, nothing more. I can go to the App Store or close the box (and it does close as expected).

 

[blow45]

I disagree. The Finder can set the default size of the font up to 16 pixels, the icons on the desktop can be up to 128 pixels wide, and you can set the font size in Safari to always be anything up to 24 pixels minimum, as with all modern browsers. Preview has the zoom buttons right in the top bar (where you can use LARGE icons is you like), Simple Text allows you to set whatever size you want as the default font. So NO I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WANT. Everything you are asking for is available. If you want larger type on the desktop and menus, it's there. The settings are not where Windows puts it, and that's what you seem to object to. Mac users do not need to "suffer through small fonts" as you claim. It's just not true.

Go to "View --> Options" in the Finder and later right-click on the Desktop and choose "Show View Options." It's pretty simple. In the browsers, Mail, anything, etc. go to the preferences and choose a large font. You only have to do this once when you set up your computer or app.

Os x doesn't have dpi settings period, there are no alternatives to that.
Get info items will look impossibly small in high res screens such as the iMac and pretty much every notebook apple sell.
So will system preferences
So will safari bookmarks, address and search bar.
So will the menu bar
So will all the menus
So will all the right click menus.
So will any font used by mac app store, excel, word, pages, keynote or ANY other app in their interface.
Apple hasn't even bothered changing the max size of font to anything higher than 16 when the last few years resolutions have been ever increasing.

Apple doesnt have another way of doing universal dpi for fonts. Apple has NO way for doing it. It's not a matter of opinion, it's matter fact, though with apple fact hardly matters when it comes to apologists. People with the current high res macs will never, ever, be able to set dpi to increase the small font of the menu bars and almost all other ui items, with very few exceptions. Please don't mislead people in their buying choices, if they prefer larger font, if they can't suffer the impossibly small font of the current macs, Ther won't be able to do anything about it.And in case some people are not convinced about that they can be my guests and check ANY feedback or complaint thread on this here, in apple support forums, or in any forum on the web, to see people saying again and again that they ve not found any viable alternatives to this ommision.

And apple doesn't care to fix it, because they know that will be a selling point for retina to finally get clear font instead of larger font. They won't fix it because they want you to buy.

 

[50548]

Os x doesn't have dpi settings period, there are no alternatives to that.
Get info items will look impossibly small in high res screens such as the iMac and pretty much every notebook apple sell.
So will system preferences
So will safari bookmarks, address and search bar.
So will the menu bar
So will all the menus
So will all the right click menus.
So will any font used by mac app store, excel, word, pages, keynote or ANY other app in their interface.
Apple hasn't even bothered changing the max size of font to anything higher than 16 when the last few years resolutions have been ever increasing.

Apple doesnt have another way of doing universal dpi for fonts. Apple has NO way for doing it. It's not a matter of opinion, it's matter fact, though with apple fact hardly matters when it comes to apologists. People with the current high res macs will never, ever, be able to set dpi to increase the small font of the menu bars and almost all other ui items, with very few exceptions. Please don't mislead people in their buying choices, if they prefer larger font, if they can't suffer the impossibly small font of the current macs, Ther won't be able to do anything about it.And in case some people are not convinced about that they can be my guests and check ANY feedback or complaint thread on this here, in apple support forums, or in any forum on the web, to see people saying again and again that they ve not found any viable alternatives to this ommision.

And apple doesn't care to fix it, because they know that will be a selling point for retina to finally get clear font instead of larger font. They won't fix it because they want you to buy.

I want to make it clear that I am probably one of the most vocals "fanboys" out there, having converted at least 15 people to Mac over the last 5 years.

Moreover, I absolutely hate Windows in all its forms. However, the point I am trying to make is that Apple NEEDS to devote further resources to the OS X team in order to: (i) fix outstanding issues; (ii) come up with new features on the basis of experienced users' feedback, and NOT on automatic presumptions that whatever appears on iOS must be replicated on OS X.

I also noted above a number of other problems which are being either deliberately ignored by Apple, or for which there are no specific resources available, such as:

- the pathetic Airport Utility (the availability of version 5.6 notwithstanding);
- the even more pathetic OS X Server (or what remains of it);
- the less-than-ideal implementation and performance of OpenGL/GPU drivers;
- lack of built-in video codecs for Safari and QuickTime (why do I have to install the now-dead Perian for that?);
- lack of possibilities to tweak settings such as mouse polling rates (so as to avoid jumpy cursors in third-party mouses);
- resolution-independence options as referred to above - I mean, Apple has ALWAYS been at the forefront of handicapped people's needs;
- 64-bit awareness and multithreading across the board (I have EIGHT cores waiting to be used and only HandBrake or a handful of pro apps employ them!);
- basic Blu-Ray support (not that I care either, but why not?);
- dual/triple monitor unified desktop support;
- Safari memory leaks (not that I personally care with 16GB of RAM);
- iMessages' disk space bug (which ends up consuming all RAM plus all available space in the startup disk);
- better WebDAV and so on;
- a growing disregard for Apple UI standards across the board.

So there you go; or do you really want me to care about on-screen reminders? For this we already have Growl. And you must agree with me: Launchpad was definitely not Apple's finest hour.

 

[blow45]

Excellent post.

 

[shurcooL]

Blu-Ray is ****. You pay large money for the movie that you supposedly own, and it comes with draconian DRM, forces you to watch 45 seconds of FBI messages. It comes on optical disk which is mechanical and outdated. On windows it requires paid crappy software to watch. iTunes Movies are now 1080p and can be enjoyed beautifully on MBAs.

I don't know about you, but I really like Launchpad. So does my mom who knows nothing about computers. They just need to fix bugs in it, that's all. And maybe add built-in spotlight search.

 

[50548]

Blu-Ray is ****. You pay large money for the movie that you supposedly own, and it comes with draconian DRM, forces you to watch 45 seconds of FBI messages. It comes on optical disk which is mechanical and outdated. On windows it requires paid crappy software to watch. iTunes Movies are now 1080p and can be enjoyed beautifully on MBAs.

I don't know about you, but I really like Launchpad. So does my mom who knows nothing about computers. They just need to fix bugs in it, that's all. And maybe add built-in spotlight search.

I know Blu-Ray is crap; I am just saying: PRIORITIZE true enhancements to OS X instead of simply copying iOS or dumbing down on features - whether this means allowing BR as a native means of backup or not, I don't care. Just PRIORITIZE OS X.

 

[nokuchikushi]

I want to make it clear that I am probably one of the most vocals "fanboys" out there, having converted at least 15 people to Mac over the last 5 years.

Moreover, I absolutely hate Windows in all its forms. However, the point I am trying to make is that Apple NEEDS to devote further resources to the OS X team in order to: (i) fix outstanding issues; (ii) come up with new features on the basis of experienced users' feedback, and NOT on automatic presumptions that whatever appears on iOS must be replicated on OS X.

I also noted above a number of other problems which are being either deliberately ignored by Apple, or for which there are no specific resources available, such as:

- the pathetic Airport Utility (the availability of version 5.6 notwithstanding);
- the even more pathetic OS X Server (or what remains of it);
- the less-than-ideal implementation and performance of OpenGL/GPU drivers;
- lack of built-in video codecs for Safari and QuickTime (why do I have to install the now-dead Perian for that?);
- lack of possibilities to tweak settings such as mouse polling rates (so as to avoid jumpy cursors in third-party mouses);
- resolution-independence options as referred to above - I mean, Apple has ALWAYS been at the forefront of handicapped people's needs;
- 64-bit awareness and multithreading across the board (I have EIGHT cores waiting to be used and only HandBrake or a handful of pro apps employ them!);
- basic Blu-Ray support (not that I care either, but why not?);
- dual/triple monitor unified desktop support;
- Safari memory leaks (not that I personally care with 16GB of RAM);
- iMessages' disk space bug (which ends up consuming all RAM plus all available space in the startup disk);
- better WebDAV and so on;
- a growing disregard for Apple UI standards across the board.

So there you go; or do you really want me to care about on-screen reminders? For this we already have Growl. And you must agree with me: Launchpad was definitely not Apple's finest hour.

Hey, I don't want you to care about on-screen reminders or anything else. I don't know you and don't want to. I get it. You hate everything Windows, you also hate just about everything about Apple and Mac. I get it. Nothing would be as good as something you yourself would devise. You have a kick-ass system (about which you reminded us repeatedly and we are duly impressed, believe me, we bow before your awesomeness) and despite having this kick-ass computer almost everything about it drives you ******* crazy angry because Apple does not know what they hell they are doing (not that you personally care LOL). I get it. Loud and clear. Loud and clear.

 

[faroZ06]

I know its just a workaround, but each major update just go to the terminal and type in "chflags nohidden ~/Library". The whole changing flags thing kinda threw me off as I came from linux and kept trying iterations of chattr instead. But its an easy enough command to remember (not to mention chflags is useful to know for multiple reasons), especially if you use terminal often enough.

Ah, that's what I want. I'll go do that next time I'm on my Lion disk. Or I'll change it with Finder if it indeed has the "invisible" checkbox available.

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I want to make it clear that I am probably one of the most vocals "fanboys" out there, having converted at least 15 people to Mac over the last 5 years.

Moreover, I absolutely hate Windows in all its forms. However, the point I am trying to make is that Apple NEEDS to devote further resources to the OS X team in order to: (i) fix outstanding issues; (ii) come up with new features on the basis of experienced users' feedback, and NOT on automatic presumptions that whatever appears on iOS must be replicated on OS X.

I also noted above a number of other problems which are being either deliberately ignored by Apple, or for which there are no specific resources available, such as:

- the pathetic Airport Utility (the availability of version 5.6 notwithstanding);
- the even more pathetic OS X Server (or what remains of it);
- the less-than-ideal implementation and performance of OpenGL/GPU drivers;
- lack of built-in video codecs for Safari and QuickTime (why do I have to install the now-dead Perian for that?);
- lack of possibilities to tweak settings such as mouse polling rates (so as to avoid jumpy cursors in third-party mouses);
- resolution-independence options as referred to above - I mean, Apple has ALWAYS been at the forefront of handicapped people's needs;
- 64-bit awareness and multithreading across the board (I have EIGHT cores waiting to be used and only HandBrake or a handful of pro apps employ them!);
- basic Blu-Ray support (not that I care either, but why not?);
- dual/triple monitor unified desktop support;
- Safari memory leaks (not that I personally care with 16GB of RAM);
- iMessages' disk space bug (which ends up consuming all RAM plus all available space in the startup disk);
- better WebDAV and so on;
- a growing disregard for Apple UI standards across the board.

So there you go; or do you really want me to care about on-screen reminders? For this we already have Growl. And you must agree with me: Launchpad was definitely not Apple's finest hour.

I don't understand your contempt for Airport Utility, but I agree that iMessage is more like iMess, and Quicktime really should come with the codecs found in Perian. Still, I certainly like Quicktime more than Windows Media

But iMessage is a total joke. Apple is even making it Mountain Lion-only. It tends to glitch on my iPhone, too. Sorry Apple, @#$% iMessage; I'm sticking with AIM.

 

[faroZ06]

Blu-Ray is ****. You pay large money for the movie that you supposedly own, and it comes with draconian DRM, forces you to watch 45 seconds of FBI messages. It comes on optical disk which is mechanical and outdated. On windows it requires paid crappy software to watch. iTunes Movies are now 1080p and can be enjoyed beautifully on MBAs.

I don't know about you, but I really like Launchpad. So does my mom who knows nothing about computers. They just need to fix bugs in it, that's all. And maybe add built-in spotlight search.

Totally. I hate Blu Ray.

And HDMI also sucks. There is some kind of BS DRM system on HDMI, and it makes it so we can't even use our HDMI cable box or TiVO sometimes because the DRM glitches and robs us of our movie we just bought.

 

[nokuchikushi]

I swear they should rename this site MacCryBaby. The comments would make much more sense.

 

[the read]

Wow. It surely would be annoying if they designed it your way.

Agreed, hopefully they won't.

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Are you sure that's how ML implements it? Have you used it or just speculation? If that is the case that's unfortunate but hopefully testers will give feedback and they'd change it before public release.

Pure speculation. But they've demonstrated the ability to make these poor workflow choices in the past.