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What a annoying feature this will be.

Why do Apple insist on trying to build software that does basic organization and attempts to do the thinking for us. I don't want all apps on all my devices...

This is on the same annoying level as Lions "Automatically open windows on a restart" feature that angers the world. It took them 12 months to fix that...

Why don't they focus on fixing the crappy bugs in the browser and You tube viewer to make the software more stable, over finding more pointless features for the lowest common denominator.

A big Grrrrrrrrr... from me.

Solution: When it asks you if you want to enable automatic downloads, click "Close".
 
What a annoying feature this will be.

Why do Apple insist on trying to build software that does basic organization and attempts to do the thinking for us.

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Why don't they focus on fixing the crappy bugs in the browser and You tube viewer to make the software more stable, over finding more pointless features for the lowest common denominator.

I didn't want folders and icons in my terminals, and look at what they did in their search for the lowest common denominator!
 
Apple is using iCloud where it makes sense rather than copying

What does that even mean? Have you used Joli OS? Do you even know what you're talking about?

This feature is currently available in Joli OS and has been for a while. There's no debating that.
 
Out of interest how does ML handle two monitors when doing full screen on an app? Does the second monitor turn blank like it does in Lion?
It's exactly like it was in Lion unfortunately. It depends totally on the apps in question being set up a certain way.. eg.. Aperture works really nicely if you fill up much of the second screen with palettes and windows, and they still hover above the grey backdrop, at least.

I still wish you could full screen two apps, one on each monitor. Usually it's not a hassle to just run them in big windows though.
 
It's referring to the feature where if you buy an App on one iOS device, you can set it to automatically download on other devices.

I don't consider that to be a feature, I consider it to be annoying. I was extremely frustrated when every app I bought on my phone was on my new iPad too. Just what I don't want: Phone sized apps on my iPad.

Fortunately you can turn this off.

What I want to see in iOS 6 are some rules relaxed. On my iPad, which does not ship with the Clock app for some odd reason, developers, due to the stupid API restrictions, cannot even develop a fully functional alarm clock app. I have to remember to leave any 3rd party alarm clock app running as the last opened app for it to work correctly!

Or Deep Twitter Integration....please: If I do not have an account make the menu option when I want to share a photo go away. Or better yet, allow an API for all social apps to get "Deep Integration" like what Android does. Then, if you install the app it will be in the menu. (Facebook is WAY better on Android due to this because you can set a picture to upload and leave a comment on it or tag it prior to it uploading...without even opening the app. That is good usability and there is no reason for iOS to not do it too.)

Apple needs to loosen up.

I am kind of a big fan too.

27' 2011 i7 Powered iMac
13' 2011 Macbook Air
iPad (current gen)
iPhone 4 (previously had 3GS, 3G, and gen 1)
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So this means I should wait on some of the universal apps I've been wanting for the Mac, huh? Because if I already have them on my iPad, then once ML drops, it should automatically download on my Mac, if its truly universal, right??? This could save people a lot of cash not having to buy "universal apps" twice just so you can have it on you Mac as well.
 
God Morning!!!

I read this from last night:

"Apple has failed miserably with OSX Lion and throwing out features Windows and other Linux distro's have been doing for years only now is pointless. It seems they're more focused on developing iOS products than with OSX development."

This is a totally pointless, uninformed and nonsensical post.

What features of Windows?
What features of Linux?
How have they focused on iOS over OSx?

Here we go, another fanboy in denial, too blind to see what's happening and either unable or unwilling to criticize Apple even when they clearly deserve it.

OSX is a very mature OS in the big scheme of things and the improvments I see are user initiated. What do I mean? iCloud for instance. Apple is not the originator of the iCloud idea any more than they were of the GUI interface. I have been using "DropBox" to store data for use on my various devices and Gmail to transfer contacts and then came iCloud.

Apple didn't exactly engineer OSX from the ground up, much of what makes OSX what it is was incorporated from an open source OS. Look at the features they only recently put in, full screen apps, ASLR, even their own anti-malware engine xprotect and now automatic app downloading? There's nothing wrong with copying a good idea and changing it to work for your needs but they're rather late to the game with the inclusion of those features. This isn't to say OSX is a bad product considering it's quite powerful yet so simple to use, but to think it's always ahead of the game is completely unrealistic.

By integrating the app, iCloud, right into the architecture of the two OSs my operation is now seamless and I have eliminated a whole lot of duplication the old cloud systems offered.

There is no iCloud for SL, only Vista, Win7 and Lion. SL still receives updates from Apple yet no iCloud integration, kind of sad considering there's quite a few SL machines bought in 2011 that don't have native iCloud integration and have to resort to using a web browser to access its services. IMHO when Apple supports 2 versions of Microsoft OS's (where Vista is no longer supported by MS) and only 1 of their own, that is ridiculous.

Apple's vision of cloud computing is very similar to Microsoft's. The only entity that has a different vision of what it should be is Google. Microsoft has Skydrive (their version of Dropbox) and Intune (which is their cloud enterprise remote management).

Good stuff and customer driven, the changes are (Yoda talk).

Meh. iCloud and this new app download feature is all about syncing between the software used on Apple devices whether OSX or iOS. It can be convenient to help certain things auto sync'd but I disagree for the apps.

For example quite a few apps aren't written for the new iPad retina display and looks really ugly when blown up to fit the screen size. There's several apps I use on my iPhone I don't want to see on my iPad via automatic downloading until they make a version reformatted for the retina display. Besides some of the apps I use exceed the 5GB iCloud limit (I refuse to pay for more storage) and prefer to do a local backup on my computer so I can resync all my apps whenever I want.
 
So this means I should wait on some of the universal apps I've been wanting for the Mac, huh? Because if I already have them on my iPad, then once ML drops, it should automatically download on my Mac, if its truly universal, right??? This could save people a lot of cash not having to buy "universal apps" twice just so you can have it on you Mac as well.

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding you, but do you mean you want to run the same app on your iPad & Mac? Unfortunately, you cannot run the same app on both Mac OS X & iOS. You have to buy a Mac OS X version & a separate iOS version. These apps aren't that universal yet.

However, if you just mean buy it on your iPad and have it automatically downloaded to iTunes (or vice versa) without syncing, you can already do this. Am I making sense?
 
I'm always perplexed by the "who did it first" mentality. It is so backwards facing that you will always be blindsided by any disruption.
 
Unless the news is os x mountain lion fixes most of lion's ****, nothing to get excited about.

OS X has lost all it's excitement anyway, no doubt since the b team of apple is developping it, when they do that is, it's become a very problematic os at its core, apple are right to be disallowing it from a older systems because it makes them resource hogs. Anyone out to extend the lifetime of their older mac should simply install windows, period.

They better be giving out for free btw, no one charges for a service pack, not even Microsoft, and with the things lion users had to endure it will be a common decency, of there's any of that left still at apple.

Microsoft doesn't charge for a service pack? Please explain to me then the price of Windows 7, which was simply to Vista as Snow Leopard was to Leopard. A glorified service pack with a few new features, though not ground breaking new features.

I somewhat agree with you on OSX performance as of late. More that Apple was to generous with the system requirements. Lion lagged my machine something horrible (10 second delays to use something as simple as volume buttons) and I had to go back to SL. I think Mountain Lion is more akin to Leopard-SL and will be a more tuned releases with some minor new features but nothing ground breaking. But at some point, I can't argue much when my Mac is pushing 5 years old that a new OS was laggy. Sometimes you just need... new hardware.
 
10.8 does have many under the hood improvements, as well as new features that have nothing to do with iOS.

Care to enlighten the audience on those? And while you're at it (since we're ALSO talking about iOS and its implications to OS X), can you explain how the Music app on iPad can be so horrendously designed?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20122563-37/how-apple-screwed-up-the-ipad-music-app-with-ios-5/

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/use...le-ios-5s-new-music-app-on-ipad-hate-it/11422

Downvote all you want, but he's right. Save As is back in 10.8.

You mean as a true "save as" menu command or just as your interpretation of "duplicate"?

Unfortunately, at this point it's still the same as Lion. Full screen is pretty useless with more than one monitor.

In other words, another missed under-the-hood fix...not to mention all the others I've already indicated above, or things like the lack of possibility to adjust mouse polling rates, the possibility to zoom the screen (a friendly recently converted to Mac asked me why Windows could zoom the screen when things look small and the Mac can't - I had to invent a thousand arguments to answer to that), or the pervasive bug of the missing mouse cursor after watching a movie on DVD Player or iTunes.

And I'm not even talking about things such as the latest version of Airport Utility (so bad that version 5.6 can still be downloaded) or the moribund OS X Server. :rolleyes:

p.s.: Don't get me wrong - my current 16GB iMac runs wicked fast on Lion. But I expect MUCH MORE than iOSification of Mac OS X instead of virtually useless "reminders".
 
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HyperX

You said:
"Here we go, another fanboy in denial, too blind to see what's happening and either unable or unwilling to criticize Apple even when they clearly deserve it."

Wow are you a rude person or what? You need to cool your critical jets and personal attacks a bit.

Just so you know I have been using PCs before the Mac GUI was stolen and I have programmed for C64s, DOS, Windows, Mac and now OSx and iOS. Additionally I have used Unix from the command line days and written code using punch cards.

What am I? A greying man who USES computers for personal and professional purposes.

So young dude back off and be polite, it's a big world and Apple right now has the premium product.
 
Microsoft doesn't charge for a service pack? Please explain to me then the price of Windows 7, which was simply to Vista as Snow Leopard was to Leopard. A glorified service pack with a few new features, though not ground breaking new features.

I somewhat agree with you on OSX performance as of late. More that Apple was to generous with the system requirements. Lion lagged my machine something horrible (10 second delays to use something as simple as volume buttons) and I had to go back to SL. I think Mountain Lion is more akin to Leopard-SL and will be a more tuned releases with some minor new features but nothing ground breaking. But at some point, I can't argue much when my Mac is pushing 5 years old that a new OS was laggy. Sometimes you just need... new hardware.



I'm not talking about running an iPad app on the Mac. But if you haven't noticed, there are quite a few apps in the Mac store that are also available for the iPad, iPhone. For example, GTA3, Real Racing 2, Angry Birds, iWork, etc. Some of these apps are available as "universal apps" across the iPad and iPhone, so yo udon't have to purchase the app twice to get them on both devices. If ML is bringing automatic downloads of apps to OS X, then wouldn't that mean that universal apps will include Mac if the devs choose to?

I doubt a lot of the games will, devs tend to charge more for the Mac versions than for the iPad/iPhone versions. Making them universale across the board would essentially cause the devs to lose money.
 
I'm not talking about running an iPad app on the Mac. But if you haven't noticed, there are quite a few apps in the Mac store that are also available for the iPad, iPhone. For example, GTA3, Real Racing 2, Angry Birds, iWork, etc. Some of these apps are available as "universal apps" across the iPad and iPhone, so yo udon't have to purchase the app twice to get them on both devices. If ML is bringing automatic downloads of apps to OS X, then wouldn't that mean that universal apps will include Mac if the devs choose to?

I doubt a lot of the games will, devs tend to charge more for the Mac versions than for the iPad/iPhone versions. Making them universale across the board would essentially cause the devs to lose money.

iWork is a great example of why you won't see universal apps that run on iOS and OS X for a while. Use both of them and you'll see that the iOS version is a completely different app. (Games are a different kind of beast.)
 
10.8 does have many under the hood improvements, as well as new features that have nothing to do with iOS.




Steve was alive when MobileMe was released. That alone is enough to make "If Steve had been alive..." a pointless comment.




Downvote all you want, but he's right. Save As is back in 10.8.



Unfortunately, at this point it's still the same as Lion. Full screen is pretty useless with more than one monitor.

I'm using 10.8. Where's Save As? (There's a Save As in Safari, but there's no "Save" in Safari, and Save As is different there. You don't edit documents in Safari.)
 
In other words, another missed under-the-hood fix...not to mention all the others I've already indicated above, or things like the lack of possibility to adjust mouse polling rates, the possibility to zoom the screen (a friendly recently converted to Mac asked me why Windows could zoom the screen when things look small and the Mac can't - I had to invent a thousand arguments to answer to that), or the pervasive bug of the missing mouse cursor after watching a movie on DVD Player or iTunes.

And I'm not even talking about things such as the latest version of Airport Utility (so bad that version 5.6 can still be downloaded) or the moribund OS X Server. :rolleyes:

p.s.: Don't get me wrong - my current 16GB iMac runs wicked fast on Lion. But I expect MUCH MORE than iOSification of Mac OS X instead of virtually useless "reminders".

I've never wanted or needed to zoom the desktop. To zoom an app's window, tap twice with one finger on your magic mouse or trackpad.

Tap with two fingers to go to Mission Control.

Swipe left or right to browse pages in Safari or Chrome. Add a finger and swipe to move to the next desktop screen.

If this is pointless "iOSification" COUNT ME IN.
 
I've never wanted or needed to zoom the desktop. To zoom an app's window, tap twice with one finger on your magic mouse or trackpad.

Tap with two fingers to go to Mission Control.

Swipe left or right to browse pages in Safari or Chrome. Add a finger and swipe to move to the next desktop screen.

If this is pointless "iOSification" COUNT ME IN.

Did you even read my post? I have nothing against gestures; and in terms of zoom, I was talking about the possibility to zoom the WHOLE screen by 150% or so...try again, please.
 
No you can't. I am talking about the possibility to magnify the screen system-wide (for those not happy with the native resolution of OS X in big screens).

Did you read the link I provided?

"Screen Magnification

Zoom is a built-in, full-screen magnifier that can magnify the items on the screen up to 40 times. "

And, of course, you can always decrease the resolution to increase the size of all the elements on the screen.
 
Did you read the link I provided?

"Screen Magnification

Zoom is a built-in, full-screen magnifier that can magnify the items on the screen up to 40 times. "

And, of course, you can always decrease the resolution to increase the size of all the elements on the screen.

You still don't understand. I want to know WHY general interface elements cannot be magnified as in other OSs. It's not about reducing overall resolution for every single application, nor about zooming into certain parts of the screen. It's about allowing some people with poor eyesight to more easily see the UI. Clearer now?
 
You still don't understand. I want to know WHY general interface elements cannot be magnified as in other OSs. It's not about reducing overall resolution for every single application, nor about zooming into certain parts of the screen. It's about allowing some people with poor eyesight to more easily see the UI. Clearer now?

Not clearer at all. How is that different than the suggestions that I made? Both result in the interface being larger allowing some people with poor eyesight to more easily see the UI.

I'm not being argumentative. I honestly don't see the difference between what I suggested and what you are asking for.
 
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