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OS X Mountain Lion Limits Apps to Mac App Store, Signed Apps by Default
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Believe it or not, I have Ubuntu on my old G3 iBook. My wife, a Systems Administrator, loves playing with it. Me? Well, I gave it to her after I installed it. Couldn't access my printers and I certainly can't go down to Walmart* or Game Stop to pick up my favorite MMOs for it.
Actually Microsoft already announced that Windows 8 Metro apps will be available exclusively through their Windows 8 Store.
What did happen? Not much.
For interest - what applictions do you use? I have applications that won't get on to MAS, if they did, they'd become crippled.
There are a great deal of applications that cannot get onto MAS without functionality be stripped.
When things are done in the name of our safety, you know it's not for our benefit. All negative words have been expunged from the language, so we can't even complain. Ridley Scott knew more than we imagined.
I'm saying you can distribute the app outside of the Mac App Store.
However I'm very curious to know who blesses your particularly favoured technology.
That's the thing though; the "average user" might do video editing, they might do photo editing, they might do one of the many things I listed. Any of those things aren't that great on Linux, and would be a dealbreaker for any of those individual things.
If I were really into photography (I am) but were otherwise an "average user" just using Office/Internet/etc., Linux is still a deal breaker.
If I were really into home video stuff due to kids/family, but otherwise an "average user", Linux's lack of decent video editing is still a deal breaker. See what I'm getting at?
Windows and OS X don't have these problems.
I would be using a ThinkPad with Ubuntu on it if I could get Office, Photoshop, and Logic or Cubase on it. It's not that I'm completely in love with OS X. It's just that the applications that run on it suit me. It's likely the same for most other people, which is why OS X and Windows are what people use, not Linux.
You realize that you've just reduced Linux to the same technology status as iOS and Android, don't you? You're declaring it a "Media Consumption OS" despite the other things it can do.
It's a deal breaker for you..Not for all of us..
People don't use Linux because they look for "MS Office" not an office suite and the same could be said for the rest. I have an uncle who is the a regional manager of a large resturant chain, his region has about 100 stores, his desktop is Linux. Everything he produces comes from open source, you have to want to use it.
Conceited much? You are right about one thing, though, the greater computer-using public doesn't even want to know what you use on your computer. They simply want to get click-happy and use an OS that does all--and I mean all--the work for them. That's why not even Ubuntu has made much of an impact, even though Ubuntu is the most desktop-like Linux currently available.
You, sir, are NOT an 'average computer user'; you are part of the 2% (well, maybe 4% now) of users with Linux on their desktop while OS X covers 10-12% and Windows roughly 80-85%. The average user today is still using Windows, but that's gradually shifting to a more comparative mix of OS X and Windows. By the time Linux gets to a 1/3rd share, none of us will be alive.
If there were any mass exodus from OS X, roughly 3/4ths would migrate back to Windows because it's a somewhat-known evil whereas Linux is almost a complete unknown to those users. Sure, Adobe would love to tell Apple off, but people forget that Apple is why Adobe became so big in the first place.
"People shouldn't be afraid of their Macs, Macs should be afraid of their people."
Yes...
My contempt for humanity knows no bounds.
I don't know about that, while I'm inclined to agree the people that would most likely leave are people like me and windows offers no real haven.
John grubers review said the default was the middle one. Signed apps against apple ID but from any source.
I guess Wil Shippley is smiling today.
Security is important, but this a solution in search of a problem. How much malware was out there, really?
I'm beginning to like Apple less and less.
I'm beginning to like Apple less and less.
What part of "...also on a new "identified developer" program under which developers distributing their applications outside of the Mac App Store can register with Apple and receive a personalized certificate they can use to sign their applications..." didn't you understand?
Looking at Linux's current desktop penetration I'd say it's a deal breaker for more than just me.
And let's not get into professional references as to how Linux will work, because having worked at law firms, engineering firms, and the banking industry, and I can assure you I can come up with many more reasons why it won't work.
Again: I like Linux. I do. But I'm based in reality, and the reality is Linux software selection currently sucks when compared to Windows and OS X.
Again it won't work for you..
I was pointing out that you can in fact use it for business. Market share is not indicative of quality look at Apple.
By the way we are now way off topic..send me a message we can continue this off line if you'd like.
Again, you're completely missing the point. It's not about me, it's about businesses and people in general.
We don't need to take it offline, I clearly don't agree with you.
I've always considered it a server and/or programmers OS myself. But yeah, I'm well aware that it's more than capable of doing everything that OSX and Windows can. Problem is, it doesn't have the vast selection of applications that make it a primary choice for the enterprise or design pro markets.
But I was talking about the so called "average user". The mom and dad market, as I call it. These are people who don't even use a quarter of what their PC is capable of. For them, it doesn't matter what OS or computer they're using. A $5000 Mac Pro would end up being a media consumption device for that particular demographic.
A friend of a friend years ago jokingly ran "the porn test" before giving a passing grading on a new distribution of Linux.
The porn test? I run that at least twice daily!
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Hmmm... it's gonna be a pita installing gnu apps. I'll keep my Snow Leopard until I can. I have compiled a lot of apps by myself and downloaded another bunch of open source apps compiled by third-party (e.g. Gimp binaries).
Apple silently is pushing old-time Mac geeks to its newer model of making money: every bit of app you own must be paid in some way.
Apple silently is pushing old-time Mac geeks to its newer model of making money: every bit of app you own must be paid in some way.
I don't know why people down-voted your post. You are 100% correct. The next OS version after Mountain Lion is indeed going to be set to not allow ANY outside software installation beyond the App Store. Apple will control 100% of what you are and are not allowed to install on your computer. They will tell you it's for your own good and security (odd since there are no major malware issues on OSX and never have been) when the TRUTH is it's for GREED and CONTROL.
All these years I thought it was Microsoft and Bill Gates that were Big Brother and were going to take our freedoms and flush them. Here, it's Apple and their Chinese army of manufacturers that are teaming up to destroy the U.S. and all our freedoms together. Long live Communism and total control over the population from the Corporations that control the puppet government of the USA!!!! Viva La Communism!
OSX, until then, could be considered a programming capable OS. It joins the flexibility and vast collection of GNU apps for developers and the the usability of Mac. I run on my 10.6 a lot of programming tools, mostly free software compiled by myself.
The way Apple is pushing its workstation operating system, I think programmers will be more likely to buy a Lenovo Thinkpad dual booted with Linux and Windows. Linux for programming and Windows for entertainment and content consumption.
If they're concerned about security, they must make its OS safer instead of more closed. Windows did a nice move to safety with Microsoft Security Essentials. It's not the best security suite, but it's pretty decent.
Apple should invest in an anti-malware tool like MS did.
