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OS X Mountain Lion Officially Drops Support for Some Older 64-Bit Macs
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With Apple having withdrawn from EPEAT, you could remove educational from that list.
I honestly don't think they'll care, we've known for a while that older Macs were going to get cut off with Mountain Lion.
My MBP just barely made the cut, and I fully expect it to be the last OS X update I get from Apple. It sucks, but I've had this machine for 5 years now.
The people who only have 3 yr old Macs, they're the ones getting screwed (and that's BS), but like I said, I really don't think Apple gives a damn.
Its obvious that both Apple and MS are trying to turn desktops (and laptops) into a product more akin to a tablet or smartphone. They don't want you keeping the same machine for 5+ years, they want you to upgrade earlier.
I already knew that 10.8 would not support my late 2007 Macbook. Even though it could. Apple just doesn't want to support 5 year old computer and I think that's fair.
They are generous with their iPod Touch, iPad, and iPhone OS upgrade too. You cannot say that about any other mobile OS device.
I'm sure my Macbook will run for years to come and I don't believe Mountain Lion will make me wish I bought a replacement. Instead I'm going for an iPad.
They are generous with their iPod Touch, iPad, and iPhone OS upgrade too. You cannot say that about any other mobile OS device.
I'm sure my Macbook will run for years to come and I don't believe Mountain Lion will make me wish I bought a replacement. Instead I'm going for an iPad.
Surprised your Pro is still running with 8600GT graphics chip. They usually all go bad sooner or later. I doubt very much your graphics chip will make it up the mountain.
The funny part is... if you goto the NVidia site... that card is supported in Windows 8 x64
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If you are curious if your should fit the bill.. best way to find out.. see if a windows 7 or 8 64 bit driver exists...
I agree the 2006/7 Mac Pro is a different issue since the 64 bit machines. I think Apple regrets making these models since they have been incredibly resistant to becoming obsolete and have made people unwilling to put down 10gs for a new tower just for a processor upgrade. Apple previously crippled the GPU upgrade route to get people to upgrade hardware and it wound up being a PR issue and people started flashing anyway. The 1,1 can be upgraded into an octocore with an SD and a new GPU and it will continue to be a beast. No one really needs the new processor.
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No problem Ill continue using my iMac as long as there is software updates then Ill just go to using Ubuntu which I have on here and use regularly anyways.
If you think this list is bad, just want until OS 11 ships. Scratch that, I don't even want to think about it. I'm worried they are going to dumb down the operating system a bit more, make it more iOS-like than it already is. Nothing against iOS, of course. I just think a line has to be drawn between what you use a computer for and what you use a smartphone or such similar device for. I think <2011 will be out of luck for OS 11.
How is ms trying to turn desktops into what you said? Have you seen the minimum requirements for windows 8? They support machines from 8 years or more ago....
Whenever apple is to blame, it's everyone's doing it, and when ms or google mess up it's their own fault?
And how did I twist anything? Or be illogical?
I stated the system requirments for Windows 7 and Windows 8. You can't twist those. Those are the specs required for the operating systems. Unless you work at Microsoft and know something I don't?
I am aware that running 8 on a machine like that won't be pretty, but if your just doing super basic stuff, and don't care about 1080P video, or running the latest games or what not, just a browsing machine, and you want to inject new life into that old machine, Windows 8 can be great, provided it has enough Ram to run around on for basic stuff. I have some crappy Tobsiba Laptop that I bought for 340 dollars at a wal mart on a business trip, because my laptop crapped out.
Had an very old single core sempron in it ( I didnt even know they still put that crap in new machines, though this was 2 or 3 years ago. ), ****** intergrated video, and a mere 2GB of ram, and thats when I learned that 2gb of Ram is enough to let W7 roam around on.
It won't be perfect, but it can be done, assuming the old machine has halfassed decent specs, I know a ton of people who still use those generic black dell P4 towers, Windows 8 could be great for a machine like that.
I also said OSX 10.7 is a pile of ****. Because it is. I wish I could downgrade my iMac to 10.6, but as far as I know. You cant.
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I fully agree about Apple, but how is this obvious for MS? AFAIK Windows 7 will be supported until 2020.
It's really honestly sad and a bit embarrassing that people will defend Apple's every decision, even if it's blatantly screwing customers over.
Here's the thing. We're not talking about running the latest game or running some high intensive stuff.. we're talking about running an operating system. An operating system that unless they unveil something massive is going to basically be the same as Lion in terms of graphics.
Maybe they add an animation or two but it's not as if they couldn't automatically disable it if it's going to run choppy on a computer with a mediocre graphics card.
And let's talk about the root of it, Apple putting in laughably bad GPUs in their $1000 computers.
I frankly wouldn't care, I'm still on Snow Leopard but with ML coming we're gonna likely see SL's support be cut, even security updates. With the latest malware and trojan issues popping up seemingly weekly that's a scary thought to run with no security updates and holes bigger than swiss cheese in the OS.
That's the difference between Microsoft and Apple. MS actually supports their software for a decent amount of time, while Apple basically flips the bird to anyone who can't keep up with the walled garden.
Here's yet another reason I'd never buy another Mac desktop.
Here's the thing. We're not talking about running the latest game or running some high intensive stuff.. we're talking about running an operating system. An operating system that unless they unveil something massive is going to basically be the same as Lion in terms of graphics.
Maybe they add an animation or two but it's not as if they couldn't automatically disable it if it's going to run choppy on a computer with a mediocre graphics card.
And let's talk about the root of it, Apple putting in laughably bad GPUs in their $1000 computers.
I frankly wouldn't care, I'm still on Snow Leopard but with ML coming we're gonna likely see SL's support be cut, even security updates. With the latest malware and trojan issues popping up seemingly weekly that's a scary thought to run with no security updates and holes bigger than swiss cheese in the OS.
That's the difference between Microsoft and Apple. MS actually supports their software for a decent amount of time, while Apple basically flips the bird to anyone who can't keep up with the walled garden.
Here's yet another reason I'd never buy another Mac desktop.
And why not? Microsoft does fine with Windows 8 supporting old hardware. Apple should learn to do the same... especially considering the cost of their hardware (and non upgradability).
Apple OSX is getting increasingly buggy, my thinking is that it's OSX is not worth Apple's time anymore, so by limiting the lifecycle of OSX, they do two things, reduce legacy support requirements, and drive new hardware sales.
Otherwise it would be relatively trivial to support old hardware considering the number of Mac variations remain small in comparison to Windows hardware.
You really have to hand it to Microsoft to provide such long term support for hardware and software - it's one thing the company does right.
Yes, but Apple drops APIs in a wonton fashion. With Windows, you can run software that is 10+ years old on your PC. With OSX, Rosetta software all died with Lion
Or what about Hyperspaces, that was a great utility that stopped working in Lion ...
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This trend toward low/mid-range disposables is troubling.
Cutting off 3+ year old hardware
Dropping the 17" MBP
Neglecting the Mac Pro
Non-upgradable, glued 15" MacBook Retina (Air)
Non-serviceable iPads
$700 Bonded laptop screen units
Glass iPhones
Dropping bare minimum environmental standards compliance
Lion runs like crap
Final Cut Pro X
But they've got a television coming out.
(sigh)
WTF are you doin Apple.
Cutting off 3+ year old hardware
Dropping the 17" MBP
Neglecting the Mac Pro
Non-upgradable, glued 15" MacBook Retina (Air)
Non-serviceable iPads
$700 Bonded laptop screen units
Glass iPhones
Dropping bare minimum environmental standards compliance
Lion runs like crap
Final Cut Pro X
But they've got a television coming out.
(sigh)
WTF are you doin Apple.
I have a feeling if apple keeps this up, more and more people will not get the high end machines that cost a premium but will stay with the lower spec machines and simply refreash more often to stay current
Macbook Retina internals engineering
New 19 pin connector for the iPhone (unofficial)
EPEAT rating dropped
ML Support
You most certainly can upgrade the hard drive. How long will it take companies to update their connectors? Who knows, but it will happen soon.
Apple sells hardware = strong disincentive to support old machines (so you buy a new one).
MS sells software = strong incentive to support machines for a long time (and install latest software on them).
This is what it boils down to.
MS sells software = strong incentive to support machines for a long time (and install latest software on them).
This is what it boils down to.
Shame on you Apple
Dear Apple; I expect such non-loyalty from the other guys. After being with you throughout my academic career, I am ready to say goodbye. For a company to say "three years! That's all we'll give you before you have to shell out another 2 grand". Really, it's easier for me to say "I'm smart enough to build a PC for 1/3 the price, and head over to Linux and Android for free.That's the reality of how you are affecting your customers today. Sincerely, Swell customer since first iBook. Even Compaq wasn't as arrogant as this, and that's saying a lot. Shame on you. PS. Thunderbolt? Really? Wake up! 99% of the world doesn't care about this. We care about being able to use what we paid for when we started our degrees. If we can't, we are sure as hell smart enough to find a more viable alternative, which does not include a once-bitten apple that has now been thrown away into the trash can.
Dear Apple; I expect such non-loyalty from the other guys. After being with you throughout my academic career, I am ready to say goodbye. For a company to say "three years! That's all we'll give you before you have to shell out another 2 grand". Really, it's easier for me to say "I'm smart enough to build a PC for 1/3 the price, and head over to Linux and Android for free.That's the reality of how you are affecting your customers today. Sincerely, Swell customer since first iBook. Even Compaq wasn't as arrogant as this, and that's saying a lot. Shame on you. PS. Thunderbolt? Really? Wake up! 99% of the world doesn't care about this. We care about being able to use what we paid for when we started our degrees. If we can't, we are sure as hell smart enough to find a more viable alternative, which does not include a once-bitten apple that has now been thrown away into the trash can.