12, because like with iPhone....Apple has decided for you the maximum amount of items you will ever need is 12
Not true.
I just put 15 in a folder and can still put more.
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Not true.
I just put 15 in a folder and can still put more.
This is absolute horseradish. I developed an app for iOS devices that does exactly this with the iOS filesystem and Dropbox and Apple declined my app for ridiculous reasons such as my icons wiggling when held... and now they "beat me to the punch" by releasing this?
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Can you manipulate these like other files, ie, duplicate, make batch changes, apply scripts? Can you highlight more than one at a time, create hierarchies? Or is it more like a Launchpad UI?
Well, if you're in a rural area, you would simply store files locally, right?
That being said, I think there's a more important distinction than urban vs. rural here. It's living in a community vs not. Here in VT (where I see you are also) there's been a tremendous effort to rollout broadband across the rural areas of the state (pretty much most of it). Fairpoint has done some and much of the rest will be done with VT Fiberconnect (a state/Sovernet partnership). The reality is in that a year or two, broadband will be fairly ubiquitous. Even if you live in a rural part of the state, you'll have access to it, provided you live in a somewhat developed town center. It's the people who live miles away from any town or community of any size that will still have problems connecting. And at that point, that's the tradeoff you make to live there. Satellite is still an option, though not a great one. You can pay to have a T1 brought out to your location or something like that. But that's the reality of living detached from most of society.
I understand there's legitimate reasons for it, such as being a farmer, but it is what it is. There's upsides and downsides to every living situation. I'm writing this from Burlington, where I'm on a 40 mb/sec synchronous fiber connection from Burlington Telecom. That's a plus for living in a city. A downside is that what is costs me to live in Burlington city proper far exceeds the cost of living in rural VT (and the pay difference by far does not compensate). I live on the 4th floor of an apartment building, and own a 1 BR condo that costs as much as a 3-4 BR house in the distant suburbs or rural areas of the state. But the tradeoffs work for me. I don't need a ton of space, I have no desire to own a car, I like the conveniences of city living. There are upsides and downsides. One downside of being a rural location, detached from any established community is that broadband access isn't great. It is what it is (and to the extent it can be affordably solved, the state of VT has been working diligently on it).
It's not like Apple is forcing you to use iCloud. You can store files locally. That's a tradeoff. I suppose I don't see what the problem is in the totality of things.
On a side note, I think that people overestimate the amount of bandwidth necessary to do things. You don't need huge amounts of bandwidth for iCloud. You could probably get by with a 1024k/768k DSL connection with no problem. Not if other people in the house are trying to stream media or do something like that, but provided you can get a basic broadband connection (which, I'll emphasize again, the state of VT has put a lot of effort into deploying) you can fully take advantage of these features.
Completely unfazed? You think they're totally lacking in any fazing? The idea that they're anything less than half-fazed I actually find offensive and greatly fazes me.
No its not, as it offers no advantage besides portability of files, which is questionable as well since its not physical media.
The worst part is that the browser is no better than the standard open dialog... there are still folders, icons take up too much space, etc. Imagine if you had 500, 1,000 or even 10,000 documents... how is this simplifying anything? Its just making things more confusing. I'm sure its possible to come up with something better than the traditional file system, but I would not jump to the conclusion that this is it.
It's a hw/sw thing
Mac is a hardware name exclusively now, so saying "on my Mac" makes sense. You wouldn't say the file is on your OS X or your Windows, cause the software is on your Mac too.
Mac is a hardware name exclusively now, so saying "on my Mac" makes sense. You wouldn't say the file is on your OS X or your Windows, cause the software is on your Mac too.
12, because like with iPhone....Apple has decided for you the maximum amount of items you will ever need is 12
Exactly
Everything is being dumbed down to the point that the computer is becoming useless.Local storage is still available. It's the same "problem" with any cloud service, nothing unique to Apple.
The missing piece for me is how to manage the files in the cloud, specifically archiving.
Folders in the iCloud world only go one level deep, and I don't want 3 years of files to sort through in iCloud. I'd like an elegant way of moving things out of iCloud into backup on my Mac or Time Capsule.
Perhaps I'm still an old-school file guy, but I think it's more about focus. I don't want every file in front of me from years ago. I also don't want to pay for all of that cloud storage.
Folders in the iCloud world only go one level deep, and I don't want 3 years of files to sort through in iCloud. I'd like an elegant way of moving things out of iCloud into backup on my Mac or Time Capsule.
Perhaps I'm still an old-school file guy, but I think it's more about focus. I don't want every file in front of me from years ago. I also don't want to pay for all of that cloud storage.
The thing I like about iCloud over Google's cloud stuff is that you get to create documents with real native applications. But what's even better is that you don't need internet access all the time with iCloud like you do with Google Docs because with iCloud, you are always working on a local copy. The internet is only used to push changes you make to your document to your other iCloud enabled computers and devices which then store a local copy themselves.
This makes all the difference.
And with them opening this API up to 3rd Party developers means iCloud is going to really take off.
This makes all the difference.
And with them opening this API up to 3rd Party developers means iCloud is going to really take off.
That's the case with all online based storage. The 5GB Apple gives you for free is still significantly more than what is handed out by Dropbox for free (and I say this as someone who uses Dropbox a hell of a lot more than iCloud).
Whilst I still find it wrong that they call it 'iCloud' (in a nutshell it is NOT a cloud in any shape or form, its a simple datacenter setup), this is starting to look 'ok'.
I say only 'ok' because this is still nowhere near dropbox, you're limited to the apps that support it. If I want to share just a image, movie, mp3 file, dmg file or whatever I like, I cant with iCloud.
I say only 'ok' because this is still nowhere near dropbox, you're limited to the apps that support it. If I want to share just a image, movie, mp3 file, dmg file or whatever I like, I cant with iCloud.
I know. I'm just pointing out as technology progresses things are becoming more expensive. I suppose that is to be expected, perhaps.
Except this isnt a cloud, and other provides provide way more flexibility (and reliability come to think of it)
Actually, am I the only one who has given up on keeping up with Mac OS? I mean, they've already made Snow Leopard outdated in some ways. They need a little more backward-compatibility.