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Does anyone know if this beta version of snow leopard has fixed the resolution bug that some mac mini users faced who tried to update up 10.5.7?
 
It's amazing how many people took that comment seriously...EVEN if he wanted he wouldn't be able to pay more to Apple...they would send the check back to his house. Go figure, people...

I can't believe you even thought of something that dumb. Wasn't it obvious that the guy was going to pay the full $129 for SL and not the $29 upgrade from Leopard price? What was going on through your head that you imagined that he would actually send a check to Apple for more money than was required?

On a side note, I see no difference when changing the "Font smoothing style" in Leopard, neither on the Macbook's display, nor on the external. Maybe that's why they took it out?

Did you log out? I can see a pretty big difference between light and strong.

edit: Nevermind, someone already pointed this out.
 
It does that in Leopard right now. :)


I like the new white text on black dock menus, very swish.

From what I have seen they have put some of the contextual items from leopard into the "options" menu when you click dock items. That seems kind of silly to me because they are increasing the amount of clicks to access items.

Not the same way it does in SL. In Leopard, System Preferences has to be running in order for that to happen. The screenshot on SL shows System Preferences closed. This is a welcome change.
 
Please tell me thats a joke....

SG:apple:
Just trying to keep up with the self-righteous preaching minority who have been ranting about how downloading the SL beta is stealing and unlawful. I doubt very much that Apple would reject the feedback of those who have downloaded it for testing, most of who intend to purchase it once it is made available for purchase.

Speaking of law, in the state of Washington, there is a law against having sex with a virgin under any circumstances. (Including the wedding night)
 
It's amazing how many people took that comment seriously...EVEN if he wanted he wouldn't be able to pay more to Apple...they would send the check back to his house. Go figure, people...
I don't know for sure, but I would assume Apple would sell a $129 disk and a $29 disk. If you had Tiger but you bought the $29 upgrade disk it wouldn't let you upgrade. At least that's what would make sense to me, it seems easier than checking back to someone's house.
 
Have all the changes been noted on the MacRumors article? Or have there been more discoveries?

I would like to know what's new in this latest build if anyone could list them please? :)
 
Snow Leopard Issues

10A402 has fixed many of Expose's quirks, especially with dock hiding enabled. Spaces is much smoother now as well.

I am running the most recent build of Snow Leopard and loving it! Here's a few issues I'm having. Let me know if you have them too or know of a solution.

1. Handbrake will not rip DVDs correctly. Either it crashes, or the video comes out distorted.​

2., right clicking on a misspelled word to bring up the menu with the correct spelling is painfully, unusably slow.​

3. I don't know if this is unique to SL, but scrolling through a multi-paged PDF refreshes with a lot of lag.​

Will we be able to use migration assistant with Time Machine to transfer files and settings to the retail version on SL once we buy and install it in September?
 
Had a couple questions..
First is, I am running leopard on my aluminum macbook. If i wanted to go find a copy of the latest build of snow leopard, then would all I have to do is just a time machine backup and then i can restore from that once i install snow leopard, and also do i have to reformat?
Second question is whether or not i have to be a registered developer or if i can just go get a copy of the build off of some torrent site or something?
 
Had a couple questions..
First is, I am running leopard on my aluminum macbook. If i wanted to go find a copy of the latest build of snow leopard, then would all I have to do is just a time machine backup and then i can restore from that once i install snow leopard, and also do i have to reformat?
Second question is whether or not i have to be a registered developer or if i can just go get a copy of the build off of some torrent site or something?

Or you can just update from Leopard.

And it's whatever, but talking about illegitimate ways to get it here is going to annoy more people than sex with a crack whore with the sniffles.
 
Just trying to keep up with the self-righteous preaching minority who have been ranting about how downloading the SL beta is stealing and unlawful. I doubt very much that Apple would reject the feedback of those who have downloaded it for testing, most of who intend to purchase it once it is made available for purchase.

Speaking of law, in the state of Washington, there is a law against having sex with a virgin under any circumstances. (Including the wedding night)

Amen... and nice factoid :D
 
Had a couple questions..
First is, I am running leopard on my aluminum macbook. If i wanted to go find a copy of the latest build of snow leopard, then would all I have to do is just a time machine backup and then i can restore from that once i install snow leopard, and also do i have to reformat?
Second question is whether or not i have to be a registered developer or if i can just go get a copy of the build off of some torrent site or something?

1st, i believe you should be able to upgrade from the installer and it move your files automatically.

2nd, yes you need to be a registered developer to get the developer preview for snow leopard however, i believe it is available on the webs, cant give you any hints as to where but where theres a will theres a way!
 
Had a couple questions..
First is, I am running leopard on my aluminum macbook. If i wanted to go find a copy of the latest build of snow leopard, then would all I have to do is just a time machine backup and then i can restore from that once i install snow leopard, and also do i have to reformat?

Second question is whether or not i have to be a registered developer or if i can just go get a copy of the build off of some torrent site or something?

No reformat necessary. You can revert to Leopard using a time machine backup. Someone check me on this, but it may not restore all your files since the backup however.

Well, technically you could grab it from a torrent. It took me about 20 hours to download from about 30 rapidshare links. However, the only way apple has distributed it is to WWDC attendees and certain paying devs. As far as I can tell, however, it is not illegal to run Snow Leopard if you are not a dev. I am a free developer for Apple just to be safe.

Does that help?
 
Xbench 10.6 vs 10.5....

So I did some Xbench testing in 10.6 and 10.5 same machine

iMac 24" 2.4GHz Radeon HD 2600 (no Core Image support)
4GB Ram is the only addition.

I left the disk test off since 10.5 is on a Western Digiatl Black 1TB and 10.6 is on a Firewire 800 External 7200.12

RESULTS

10.6 total score 173
10.5 total score 189

10.6 CPU 169
Floating Point 267

10.5 CPU 150
Floating Point 150

10.6 Memory 166
10.5 Memory 163

10.6 Quartz 189
10.5 Quartz 196

10.6 Open GL 115
10.5 Open GL 179

10.6 UI Test 294
10.5 UI Test 341

Find it interesting that 10.5 beats 10.6 overall (obviously 10.6 needs more optimization and that is impressive considering how FAST it is over 10.5) BUT 10.6 squashes 10.5 in Floating Point *BADLY!* Although all things GPU Quartz/OpenGL/UI were won by 10.5

10.6 is a tad better with this new update, so I am interested to see if raw test performance gets better than 10.5 anytime soon...

p.s. I am attaching the 2 full tests (these were the average results over 20 tests in each OS)
 

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Have all the changes been noted on the MacRumors article? Or have there been more discoveries?

I would like to know what's new in this latest build if anyone could list them please? :)
Here's something extremely minor...

In older SL builds, the new screenshot file format was Screenshot on x.x.x at y.y.y.png. In the most recent build, it's been changed to Screen shot x.x.x at y.y.y.png.

Personally, I think I liked the older builds' default file format name.
 
So I did some Xbench testing in 10.6 and 10.5 same machine

iMac 24" 2.4GHz Radeon HD 2600 (no Core Image support)
4GB Ram is the only addition.

I left the disk test off since 10.5 is on a Western Digiatl Black 1TB and 10.6 is on a Firewire 800 External 7200.12

RESULTS

10.6 total score 173
10.5 total score 189

10.6 CPU 169
Floating Point 267

10.5 CPU 150
Floating Point 150

10.6 Memory 166
10.5 Memory 163

10.6 Quartz 189
10.5 Quartz 196

10.6 Open GL 115
10.5 Open GL 179

10.6 UI Test 294
10.5 UI Test 341

Find it interesting that 10.5 beats 10.6 overall (obviously 10.6 needs more optimization and that is impressive considering how FAST it is over 10.5) BUT 10.6 squashes 10.5 in Floating Point *BADLY!* Although all things GPU Quartz/OpenGL/UI were won by 10.5

10.6 is a tad better with this new update, so I am interested to see if raw test performance gets better than 10.5 anytime soon...

p.s. I am attaching the 2 full tests (these were the average results over 20 tests in each OS)

Very interesting. I suspect the GPU results are due to suboptimal drivers. I know in the previous build the 9400M performance was horrible for 3D.
 
There is no Marble UI.

Says you. Jon Gruber of Daring Fireball says there probably is and considering he's right so much of the time I am inclined to agree.

Plus while it didn't make Snow Leopard, you would have to be blind to not see the shifts the OS X UI is making.
 
Says you. Jon Gruber of Daring Fireball says there probably is and considering he's right so much of the time I am inclined to agree.

Plus while it didn't make Snow Leopard, you would have to be blind to not see the shifts the OS X UI is making.
Oh, so Apple did say the UI is called "marble"? I didnt know that
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I'm hoping that menu is the hint to Marble. We've seen that background/color combo in the iPhone, iLife '09, and now this. I love it! :D:apple::apple:
 
Oh, so Apple did say the UI is called "marble"? I didnt know that
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The code name didn't come out of thin air. From what I have read, I got the impression that that's what they are calling it internally, but I couldn't point you to a specific citation of that.

In any case, Gruber is pretty well connected. If he says there is a Marble interface in the works (and the good money is that there is - Apple's UI team is not sitting on its laurels), I am inclined to believe him.

EDIT: Actually I can cite that -
"The name I’ve heard for the new theme: Marble. Make of that what you will."
Daring Fireball
 
Oh, so Apple did say the UI is called "marble"? I didnt know that
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No. Apple has never used the word "marble" in any of their PR or announcements of their OS. Marble was first speculated by the rumor mills.

Now I am very sure that Apple is constantly at work with the overall interface, but there is no way to know what Apple is calling us until they make some sort of an announcement.
 
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