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OS X Snow Leopard Retail Disc Contains Build 10A432

iBug2 said:
Quartz = 2D acceleration = video driver.
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No, Quartz sits on top of a driver; if the driver is crap that the Quartz performance is going to be crap. I might as well say your whole house is crap when in actual fact I'm only referring to the front gate. See how stupid it is not to be precise in your criticisms.
 
macintoshtoffy said:
No, Quartz sits on top of a driver; if the driver is crap that the Quartz performance is going to be crap. I might as well say your whole house is crap when in actual fact I'm only referring to the front gate. See how stupid it is not to be precise in your criticisms.
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It's not possible to determine whether it is the video driver or Quartz which causes the slowdown on SL. Same way it's not possible to determine whether a game running slow is due to new Open GL or just video driver, or something completely different.

When a review site or barefeats measures Quartz or Open GL performance, they just say Open GL is slower or Quartz is slower. They can't know which part of the OS is 100% responsible for the slowdown, since end users can only see the effects and not the cause.

See how stupid it is to troll?
 
iBug2 said:
It's not possible to determine whether it is the video driver or Quartz which causes the slowdown on SL. Same way it's not possible to determine whether a game running slow is due to new Open GL or just video driver, or something completely different.

When a review site or barefeats measures Quartz or Open GL performance, they just say Open GL is slower or Quartz is slower. They can't know which part of the OS is 100% responsible for the slowdown, since end users can only see the effects and not the cause.

See how stupid it is to troll?
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I can confirm the same. Something is wrong either with Quartz or driver or both. I believe we will get a graphics driver update with 10.6.1 or 10.6.2 or maybe as a separate release via Software Update. Just like with Leopard.
 
iBug2 said:
It's not possible to determine whether it is the video driver or Quartz which causes the slowdown on SL. Same way it's not possible to determine whether a game running slow is due to new Open GL or just video driver, or something completely different.

When a review site or barefeats measures Quartz or Open GL performance, they just say Open GL is slower or Quartz is slower. They can't know which part of the OS is 100% responsible for the slowdown, since end users can only see the effects and not the cause.

See how stupid it is to troll?
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OpenGL is related to the video driver itself; the two are bound together. The fact that it doesn't appear on other people's Macs with different hardware configurations rules out the possibility of a shared component because if it were a shared component that it would be a flawed seen by all users. Once you take that out of the equation you have the driver, the driver which is made up of three components, one of them being the OpenGL component - the OpenGL hardware specific component.
 
macintoshtoffy said:
OpenGL is related to the video driver itself; the two are bound together. The fact that it doesn't appear on other people's Macs with different hardware configurations rules out the possibility of a shared component because if it were a shared component that it would be a flawed seen by all users. Once you take that out of the equation you have the driver, the driver which is made up of three components, one of them being the OpenGL component - the OpenGL hardware specific component.
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It DOES appear on other people's macs. Check the reviews, if they took a quartz comparison, they found SL slower. I doubt they all use the exact same hardware as me.
 
LbrTradr said:
I ordered the upgrade Snow Leopard disk on Aug 8th for $9.99 and a retail disk on Aug 24th for $29. The disk I ordered on Aug 24th for $29 has shipped and I'll receive it tomorrow (Oregon). Funny how the upgrade disk for $9.99 that I ordered more than 2 weeks before still hasn't shipped. I guess my daughter will get the upgrade disk now instead of the retail disk.
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Ordered mine 7/29 (up to date) and it hasn't shipped yet as of this morning. I ended up cancelling it since the $29 one will deliver this morning.
 
So my question is

For those of us that already have 10A432 via the developer site, will we even need the retail version if it's the same? Will we get future software updates and etc?
 
axboi87 said:
For those of us that already have 10A432 via the developer site, will we even need the retail version if it's the same? Will we get future software updates and etc?
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If you did get it from the developer site, it's exactly the same.
 
Amazon's telling me that I'll get mine on Sept 2nd to 4th with standard shipping. The semester starts next week, so I'll be busy anyway.
 
Shipments arriving in the UK

Woohoo !!:D
 

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Bah, confirmed 10A432 on retail DVD. Well maybe I will try a better clean install to get a little more polish out of it.
 
After G said:
Actually I like it - environmentally friendly. Coincidentally I also like the tiny boxes (started with Leopard I think).
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It actually started with later versions of Tiger. Tiger originally shipped in a very large box, but later it started to come in the smaller boxes. Although Leopard was the first Mac OS to start shipment in the new smaller boxes, yes :)
 
After G said:
Actually I like it - environmentally friendly. Coincidentally I also like the tiny boxes (started with Leopard I think).
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Sort of, but Snow Leopard is in much smaller boxes than even Leopard. Less than half as thick, perhaps as small as a third of the thickness I'd say. Saves significantly on shipping, I'd imagine.

jW
 
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