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Re: more problems after updating to 10.1.4

Originally posted by groov'
I updated on my G4-400.

what I noticed thus far:

- overall performance is worse, lot of spinning beachballs; startup is slower, logout and shutdown takes ages
- limewire doesn't work anymore; after start up it 'unexpectedly' quits
- dragthing keeps asking for serials at every start up, after filling out the whole **** every time
- msWORD is a crime, especially saving and altering preferences, unless you like beachballs
- IE 5(.1.4) is even more unstable than it was

Fortunately I go on a 2 weeks holiday tomorrow, so I hope there is a new update ready when I come back.

reinstall limewire because I did the update and mine is working fine
 
Originally posted by G4scott
I have a question? After every update, people say that their mac runs faster. Is this an actual change in the code from Apple, or is it just the optimizing process that it does after installing? Also, is this optimizing doing what those little programs that would clean up you system do? (prebinding, i think is what's it called). It's nice that everyone's system runs fatser, but for a 2mb update, i'm not sure if it was an actual change in the system's code that makes it run faster...

yep every version apple optimises it
they have to
remember it only version #.1.4
so It has a long way to go
 
Re: Ah...too bad!

Originally posted by merman637
Ive only got 512mb ...

Startup also has (i would say) been cut to about 2/3 time......Good Job APPLE!!!!!!!!!

ONLY 512 MB? Ah, too bad! And to think I settled for 32 and 64 MB on mycomputers for 5 years! Even now I have 'only' 320 MB. Seems to work great for me, but then, I'm not working with 100 MB sized images either.

I tested the startup time on my 500 MHz iBook, and it took about 93 seconds to get to the login screen. After a reboot into 10.1.4, it took about 89 seconds. If that is the 'speed' boost, it is certainly nothing that noticable. I've heard that BeOS could start up in 15 or 20 seconds. Now THAT will be cool when/if computers are able to start up in just 15-30 seconds.
 
I'm not a Mac weenie, but personally I don't care if the computer takes 8 friggin' minutes to boot up as long as once it's running I can put it to sleep whenever I would otherwise shut it off, and as long as it never crashes. Thankfully, OS X fulfills both of those for me...

Alex
 
For m$ word issues (especially when saving) turn OFF ALL the fast save and autosave recover features. Even turn off background saving. All of those have been known to cause longer save times as well as file corruption. I would also turn of the WYSIWYG font feature, to give it a bit better performance. All of those can be found under the word menu, preferences selection.
 
is blakespot's avatar suppoused to be animated?
I think it was before, but I can't seem to remember. Someone had an animated 'atom' avatar, and i think that was it, but it isn't animated on my browser.

Maybe it's IE 5.1.4?

If so, then m$ can go FIITA (e-mail me if you want to know what "FIITA" means, or send me a message)

I'm sick and tired of m$ crap not working...

But if blakespot's avatar isn't animated, then m$ can still go FIITA because IE sucks. I think i'm going to switch browsers.

OmniWeb is looking very attractive...
 
yes, but...

All this dithering about 4 SECOND SPEED INCREASES and MORE CD BURNER SUPPORT is a yawn. I can't believe we (and I'm including myself here) haven't YELLED about some of the RUBBISH that OS X puts us through. Stuff that should have been fully ironed out before X hit the shelves. Sherlock SUCKS - it runs about a million times faster in 9.x, and doesn't respond well to being stopped. Spring-loaded folders are an absolute necessity in a Finder navigation system that uses single windows by default. Stickies STILL looks crap. I don't know if this is a problem anybody else has encountered, but when my Internet connection drops out for whatever reason, the Internet Connect dialog DOESN'T NOTICE, and appears to be still connected. Where are LABELS? Why did they take away the notice in the Empty Trash dialogue that tells you how much you're trashing? Why can't you find out how many items are in a folder without COUNTING THEM?

It's not like these are innovations, they're useful components of the OLD operating system that absolutely should have been included from the word GO with X. The fact that they're going to make us PAY for 10.2 (or at least, I'm pretty certain that they will), and that we're all going to go out there and PAY because at the moment the whole thing isn't perfect and it annoys us, is unbelievably disrespectful. I am an Apple nut, i've been a devoted and loyal follower for nearly 20 years, and there are lots of people out there like me. How about they start looking after us a bit better, and making us scrabble for tiny, tiny crumbs like this latest OS update?

Sorry about this rant. I know I'm only a baby-Macrumorist. But some of this stuff makes me kinda mad.

😡
 
To be perfectly honest

I understand all of your frustration Macette.

maybe someone should start a petition for Apple to get these features back into the OS (if this hasn't been done already).

The baby was thrown out with the bathwater when Apple moved to OS X.

Until spring-loaded folders are back in, I'm sticking with 9.2
 
Re: yes, but...

Originally posted by Macette
...Why can't you find out how many items are in a folder without COUNTING THEM?...
😡

You can set the Finder to count the items in a folder. In the Finder, click on the "View" menu, and select "Show Status Bar"

I do understand your complaints about other parts of the system. Apple needs to get on the ball! I'm waiting for 10.2...
 
speed and Mac OS X

I went into a Finder list view, and a 92 item folder might usually take 5 to 7 seconds to list. Now takes only a second with 10.1.4. This on a Flat Panel iMac G4 800. And yes I've run update prebinding which improves speed in other areas every so often. But not as much as 10.1.4 did. Then again having 768 MB of RAM may have something to do with it.

By the way, if you want to know of ways to speed up Mac OS X, visit http://www.macmaps.com/Macosxspeed.html
 
Originally posted by G4scott
is blakespot's avatar suppoused to be animated?
I think it was before, but I can't seem to remember. Someone had an animated 'atom' avatar, and i think that was it, but it isn't animated on my browser.

Maybe it's IE 5.1.4?
My avatar is not animated.

And it happens to be the image I chose for 3-4" tattoo on my left leg, above the knee. It is the celtic tree of life, though it is probably more druidic than celtic, in reality.


blakespot
 
Okay, just random thoughts in reply to the thread:

Blakespot, that's a cool tattoo 🙂 It'd be interesting to see a Macs & Tattoos forum, again not really relevant to computers but a good "get to know you" thread. I have a cute little lizard on my right ankle. His name is Roger.

What does updating prebindings actually do? I've got several utilities that do this, and it sure takes long enough... I don't know if I actually notice a speed increase, but it's the thought that counts... i don't know what a prebinding is 🙁

As for OSX problems... Sherlock does bite the big one, i wish you could turn off indexing... in 9, you could just disable the FBC Indexing extension. I've stopped using Sherlock unless forced to, it's just too much of a pain. Searches take minutes instead of seconds and are next to impossible to stop.

Spring loaded folders would be nice. I keep trying to use them, and getting pissed when it doesn't work. I'm confident it will be in a future revision tho. I hope.

Apple won't charge for 10.2? I had assumed they would. Does anyone know more one way or the other? I don't even know how much those things cost, when I upgraded to X, 10.1 came in the box...

😀
pnw
 
Re: Re: yes, but...

Originally posted by G4scott


You can set the Finder to count the items in a folder. In the Finder, click on the "View" menu, and select "Show Status Bar"

I do understand your complaints about other parts of the system. Apple needs to get on the ball! I'm waiting for 10.2...

Thank you G4scott. I am a happier Macette now.
xx
 
Turning off indexing

Go to Sherlock menu in Sherlock, and select preferences. Uncheck the two checkboxes there.

If updating prebinding doesn't work for you, you may want to partition and reinstall after copying everything over to a backup. Putting Mac OS X on a 60
GB hard drive is much slower than putting it on a 25 GB partition. The amount of disk seeking that takes place for the swap file is much less when the partition is much smaller.

Originally posted by paulwhannel
Okay, just random thoughts in reply to the thread:

Blakespot, that's a cool tattoo 🙂 It'd be interesting to see a Macs & Tattoos forum, again not really relevant to computers but a good "get to know you" thread. I have a cute little lizard on my right ankle. His name is Roger.

What does updating prebindings actually do? I've got several utilities that do this, and it sure takes long enough... I don't know if I actually notice a speed increase, but it's the thought that counts... i don't know what a prebinding is 🙁

As for OSX problems... Sherlock does bite the big one, i wish you could turn off indexing... in 9, you could just disable the FBC Indexing extension. I've stopped using Sherlock unless forced to, it's just too much of a pain. Searches take minutes instead of seconds and are next to impossible to stop.

Spring loaded folders would be nice. I keep trying to use them, and getting pissed when it doesn't work. I'm confident it will be in a future revision tho. I hope.

Apple won't charge for 10.2? I had assumed they would. Does anyone know more one way or the other? I don't even know how much those things cost, when I upgraded to X, 10.1 came in the box...

😀
pnw
 
Help!

I tried to get the update and the OS updater util keeps telling me
that it can not connect to the internet? I have internet connection
or I would not be able to type this now. What's the deal? Are any
of you guys getting this? I went to Apples support site and downloaded
it and installed it manually. But I would like to get the IE update if I could.

Please let me know if you are having the same problem.

ooartist
 
Re: Help!

Originally posted by ooartist
Please let me know if you are having the same problem.

I've heard a few others having this problem... Last night, SW update didn't check as it usually does at midnight, so I did it manually, and could not get it to work... Tried for a half hour, nothing. I'm on dialup.

But this morning SW update started automatically and was it's usual chipper self, trying to get me to download Airport 2 once again 🙂

pnw
 
Ok, I thought I saw an avatar that looked something like that, and I wasn't sure if that was it, and IE was messing with it.

miscrosoft still can go FIITA though...
 
ClassicStartup not showing?

AlphaTech said:
Tried that when I still had OS 9.x/Classic mode on my TiBook. I never had classic startup on it's own, only when I told it to. So that fix is not universal.

The way I did it was clicka Classic app, and when the ClassicStartup icon began to bounce in the Dock I ctrl-clicked it and chose "Show in Finder". A window opened showing me the ClassicStartup icon. If I doubledclick that icon afterwards Classic environment starts up without having to open Photoshop or whatever other thing with it.

Maybe I misunderstood you and you knew where ClassicStartup is, only that it does not starts the classic environment for you (which I guess is weird, but I am not techy enough to know why).
 
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