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Even if I didn't like Photos at first, I am still testing it on my MBP.
I was wondering, I had a project in Aperture but it was never organized so I have many events...

I opened my aperture library with Photos but can't seem to move let's say 200 pictures to another "album"? It is how it's called in Photos?

Thanks!

Select the pictures you want to move
Select File > New Album
In the resulting window you can either elect to put the pictures in a brand new album or select an existing album
 
Select the pictures you want to move
Select File > New Album
In the resulting window you can either elect to put the pictures in a brand new album or select an existing album

Yay that worked. Is there any way to remove pictures from the "old" album now? If I deleted them, they should not disappear from the new album?

Thanks

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I tried to delete form the old album and they stayed in the new!
 
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Is there any thread regarding how-to and q/a for Photos?

-- Here's another one, the iCloud setting seems to be disabled for me, I might have done that...

I would like to activate it but I would like only photos taken from iOS devices to get there and not my whole library and new importation, is this possible?
 
Can anyone confirm if they fixed the scrolling speed issue with wired apple mice?
 
Does Photos support videos?

The photo stream takes pictures and videos from iPhone and copies them to my Aperture Lib but in iPhoto it is only pictures correct?

It's kind of a mess if you want to put them all together and working with 2 softwares and now Photos?
 
Does Photos support videos?

The photo stream takes pictures and videos from iPhone and copies them to my Aperture Lib but in iPhoto it is only pictures correct?

It's kind of a mess if you want to put them all together and working with 2 softwares and now Photos?


Yes. Photos has a built in video player and videos are treated the same way as photos are with iCloud Photo Library...meaning they sync over and stored the same way.
 
Best forum ever!

I did do a back-up of my old iPhoto Library on an external HDR for now and it is on my TimeMashine.

Do you guys in this forum delete/uninstall the app iPhoto as well?

Might be smart to avoid conflicts in the future but I need your help.

Otherwise I really like Photos. I am not going to use iCloud but for security reasons.

Don't want all my pics in public just a password away.
 
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Am I right to say that the iCloud photo stream from iphoto doesn't download the videos taken with iphone but aperture does download them?
 
How are folks dealing with large libraries on MacBooks? I am an aperture user so the referenced files concept worked great for us. The issue is that the new photos app can only use iCloud library with consolidated files, no references (even though it kind of supports them).

All I can think of is making 2 libraries. Once for the last couple years and photo stream, and I keep that as the system library and no referencing. Then a 2nd library that is referenced and has no iCloud setup.

The new photos app does not support splitting or importing libraries so it seems I would need to do all of that in Aperture. Thoughts?
 
I endorse the "snappy" comments, but it's not science.

Saw that Photos icon in the dock. Scary. Never used iPhoto much. After years of trying, got comfortable with Aperture. Since the announcement, all new stuff goes to Lightroom/Photoshop $9.99/month option. Not optimal. I will only be angry if Photos quickly gets to Aperture level. Many have speculated it would, and have the Final Cut Pro X comeback and Logic Pro recent upgrade to point to.
So I'm leaving Aperture work alone, and we will see what happens.
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Photos is a free app bundled with the OS. It will never reach the level of a professional app. Apple charges money for pro apps.
 
Then why discontinue Aperture?

Because Apple's not interested in the professional photography market anymore. They lost it to Adobe a long time ago. The good news for Apple is that the consumer photography market is magnitudes larger than the pro market, and Apple is betting that the iPhone will dominate it. The iPhone is already the most represented "camera" on Flickr. Camera phones are eating the point-and-shoot camera market alive, and Apple wants the iPhone to stay on top.
 
Because Apple's not interested in the professional photography market anymore. They lost it to Adobe a long time ago. The good news for Apple is that the consumer photography market is magnitudes larger than the pro market, and Apple is betting that the iPhone will dominate it. The iPhone is already the most represented "camera" on Flickr. Camera phones are eating the point-and-shoot camera market alive, and Apple wants the iPhone to stay on top.



They have a lot better idea of what the numbers look like than the people posting on here. Every business has to weigh the cost/benefit ratio and see if continuing a product is in their best interest. Even if they make money off of Aperture can the software engineers working on it make more money for Apple doing something else? For all we know new sales of Aperture are in the trashcan and they are doing nothing but getting updates out to primarily older customers.
 
I hoard all my crappy but keepable shots on iphoto on an old laptops hard drive. Does that all automatically go onto the cloud and onto all my IOS devices? That would be horrible and expensive.
 
Has anyone had any issues retrieving mail from the gmail servers using Apple Mail? I have installed every one of the beta releases since they started the public beta ad this is the first time I've had any kind of problem. I've used Mail to fetch my email from the gmail servers for years without issue until now.

I find that Mail no longer gets the messages and also I have to use Option-Right Clock to Force Quit if I want to try re-starting Mail. Any ideas?

Thanks
 
They're giving Photos away for free with the OS. You don't do that with professional software. You charge money for it. If Apple intended to remain in the pro photography market, they'd have continued to develop Aperture.

So far as Apple is concerned, the iPhone is the future of photography. Photos is a consumer app with low aspirations. If you're holding out hope for a Photos Pro, you're going to be disappointed all over again.

Except for the fact that 3rd parties can offer functionality above and beyond what the Photos feature set has, and easily sell those add-ins. I see great potential for companies like Pixelmator, onOne, VSCO, etc. Apple provides the (for free) framework that is Photos, and 3rd parties functionality updates for a fee. You only buy what you need. Sounds like a win-win to me. And in the mean time, Aperture will continue to run great for at least a year until you are ready to make the jump.

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I hoard all my crappy but keepable shots on iphoto on an old laptops hard drive. Does that all automatically go onto the cloud and onto all my IOS devices? That would be horrible and expensive.

If you decide to sync that iPhoto library with iCloud when using Photos, then yes. Should consider splitting the library up into stuff you never want to put into cloud and onto devices. Use one Photos library for all your connected devices and iCloud, and the other just on your old laptop.
 
New 10.10.3 Photos App Keeps Crashing

I just installed the new OS X 10.10.3 Public Beta Update and The New Photos App Keeps Crashing. Sometimes it goes down after 30 seconds, some times up to a minute. No matter how many times i restart the app, it still crashes, Anyone else having this issue? If so, anyone know of any fixes?

Thanks in Advance,

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Uploading photos to iCloud with Photos absolutely choked my internet. Not even having Photos open, it just ground everything to a halt. Pings to google.com averaged 2K ping. Speedtest.net showed 728ping with 4Mb down, 0.02up.

Photos had been stuck at uploading 457 photos for the last few days (out of 26K photos), hit pause and suddenly my speed was back to normal. Speedtest.net cheerily reported 28ping with 19Mb down, 0.47up. (Normal for an average shoddy ADSL2+ line in Australia not too far from an exchange).

Some throttling is definitely needed for us with average third world connections here in poor old capital city, Australia.

Oh yeah, tried resuming photos. Suddenly back to 24,451 photos uploading. Thanks a lot Apple.
 
Does anyone know if this resolves the issue where transparency turns off with each reboot?

This turned out to be duet display turning off the transparency. I turned the launch at boot option off and it stopped doing it.
 
So does photos do away with the iPhoto Events logic altogether? I really liked that and would be sorry to see it gone.

This is my question too. I'm trying to adapt to the new Photo format and appreciate how it's consistent across all devices, but I really liked how iPhoto organized according to events.

I understand that I can still create events, but it seems that when I create one it still leaves the photos in the stream, and that if I delete a photo from the stream it deletes it from the event I created on my laptop.

I preferred the old way, where I could download from the stream to my laptop, then delete the photos in the stream to free up space. If I wanted to share across all my devices, I could make shared folders in my stream. Are these features gone forever with Photos?
 
Yay that worked. Is there any way to remove pictures from the "old" album now? If I deleted them, they should not disappear from the new album?

Thanks

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I tried to delete form the old album and they stayed in the new!

Yeah photos can exist in one or more albums
 
This is my question too. I'm trying to adapt to the new Photo format and appreciate how it's consistent across all devices, but I really liked how iPhoto organized according to events.

I understand that I can still create events, but it seems that when I create one it still leaves the photos in the stream, and that if I delete a photo from the stream it deletes it from the event I created on my laptop.

iPhoto had Albums, Photos and Events. (And Shared Photo Streams)
Photos has Albums and Photos. (And Shared Albums)

For many people Events in iPhoto were really confusing - photos could only exist in one Event and not many really understood how to move photos between events or that when deleting a photo from an event you were really deleting it "for good". Myself, I liked Events but doing them "right" did mean a certain amount of micromanagement. But I enjoyed that.

Photos in iPhoto were just one big listing of all your photos (with event titles optionally shown, which from what I've seen observing friends and family) just confused most people.

iPhoto also has Albums which are actually virtually identical to Albums in Photos. In iPhoto you can put photos into as many albums as you like. They are "references" so deleting from an album doesn't really delete the photo. (In Photos.app you right click and "Remove from Album" - not delete)

Shared Photo Streams in iPhoto are something "special", and kinda act like Albums shared with others.


Photos.app is similar but different. It's really much better when you understand the differences and how the model is simpler but better really.

"Photos" is all your photos arranged automatically for you. It's arranged by "Years", "Collections" (Photos taken around the same time in about the same place) and "Moments". My 34,000 photos are fully geotagged and have correct dates this this "Photos" view provides a reasonably decent overview of my library. For something done automatically this is going to be really awesome for the vast majority of people that have no desire to micromanage their photo library. It's the "it just works" view that mostly works really well.

Albums are where you get to micromanage. iPhoto Events transfer over as Albums. Shared Photo Streams are just Shared Albums. You can create as many albums as you want. You can create folders for albums and folders of folders (say a folder for different clients or different years). Putting a selection of photos into an album or new album is easily done via the New Album menu item (which is a bit poorly named, as you can add to existing albums or create a new album for the selected photos)

Photos can exist in multiple albums (though there's no way to see what albums a photo belongs to - say like in iTunes where you can see what playlists a song belongs to -- i've submitted a feature enhancement request for this, I suggest others do the same). Editing a photo that exists in multiple albums shows those changes in all albums (obv since albums are just "collections" of references to photos)

Deleting photos from an album doesn't delete the photo from your library. In all cases the only way to delete is to right click and "Show in Moment" and then delete there - that's a "real" delete from your library. (This differs from iPhoto where you could "delete" from either Photos or Events and that was super confusing to some people - I've heard more than once... "I didn't mean to really delete it for good I just didn't want it in that event")

There are some special albums: Faces, Panoramas, Videos are all special "built-in" Albums. Favorites is considered an Album. Smart Albums work exactly as you would expect. There's also a special "All Photos" album which is essentially the old "Camera Roll". It's just a raw dump of all your photos in the order they were taken/imported/etc. I actually never use this and would be just as comfortable if i could hide it.


The one difference between the apps that changes is where iPhoto automatically created Events for you (and sometimes you needed to tweak them to get pictures where you wanted), in Photos.app you need to create Albums on your own after importing pictures (or taking a batch of pictures, etc.)

But honestly, if you were the type that micromanaged your events and kept them "clean and organized" in iPhoto, that won't change in Photos, you'll just do so using Albums.

It's different, but really the same and, in my opinion, better. It's going to be much less confusing for most people.


I preferred the old way, where I could download from the stream to my laptop, then delete the photos in the stream to free up space. If I wanted to share across all my devices, I could make shared folders in my stream. Are these features gone forever with Photos?

Photo streams as you know them are gone. You just get all your photos. Period. No special album or anything. Take photo on your iPhone, it's just there in your photo library on all other devices. It's very sane and sensible to the average person.

If you don't want a photo, delete it and it'll be gone from everywhere. If you want to share it to "Shared Album" (i.e an old Shared Photo Stream) just do it. It doesn't change that you have one copy of the photo in your library appearing in an album (at least one, but could be more) which just happens to be a shared album to other people. (I can check but pretty sure that sharing a photo to multiple albums doesn't change space, and I think if you edit the original photo that edit it pushed out to everyone, but i'll have to check that.)

It really makes a ton of sense in practice. Again this is much easier for most people to "grok".
 
(I can check but pretty sure that sharing a photo to multiple albums doesn't change space, and I think if you edit the original photo that edit it pushed out to everyone, but i'll have to check that.)


Just did some testing.

Sharing photos doesn't seem to count against your "# of photos in the cloud". I shared photos in different test albums and the number of photos I had in the cloud didn't change. Nor did the size of my library.

I'm not sure where this space comes from - unless it's one of those "first 1000 shared photos are free thing". Not sure.


Also the photos shared are not simple references into your photo library. Editing a photo after sharing it doesn't propage those edits out to the people you shared the photo to.

So this part seems to work the same as it did in iPhoto
 
Hi ! Fisrt of all sorry for my english, i enrolled my mac in the beta program, downloaded vía Mac App Store 10.10.3 but after restar i dindt find the photos app, the system says that my versión is 10.10.2 and the updater says that i dont have any update avaliable

What could i do? Thanks!
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