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Ugh...

"Thin Helvetica Neue replaces the long-serving but chunky Lucida Grande as the system typeface."

I hate Helvetica Neue...

And calling Lucida Grande "chunky"?

Why is Apple obsessed with making text HARDER to read?

Prescription iGlasses in the product pipeline?

Sigh.
 
Another way to render your laptop obsolete by making it compute gorgeous effects with transparency at full retina resolution!
 
Ugh...

"Thin Helvetica Neue replaces the long-serving but chunky Lucida Grande as the system typeface."

I hate Helvetica Neue...

And calling Lucida Grande "chunky"?

Why is Apple obsessed with making text HARDER to read?

Prescription iGlasses in the product pipeline?

Sigh.

I would really appreciate the option to use Lucida Grande system-wide. Not everyone has a retina display nor is every Mac user a young 20-something with perfect 20/20 vision.
 
Designed for retina displays? I don't see any high resolution textures here...

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Likely. Why else would they spend so much time making a detailed trashcan?

The old trash can was higher detailed

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Ugh...

"Thin Helvetica Neue replaces the long-serving but chunky Lucida Grande as the system typeface."

I hate Helvetica Neue...

And calling Lucida Grande "chunky"?

Why is Apple obsessed with making text HARDER to read?

Prescription iGlasses in the product pipeline?

Sigh.

Because stupid people harassed apple about having pretty products so they will now remove all design in favour of "programmer design" or as I like to call it "stupid nerd design"
 
I've got no problem with Yosemite looking better on Retina screens just as long as it doesn't look worse on my non Retina iMac than Mavericks does. As people have said, there's still a lot of non Retina systems out there, and unlike phones or iPads we don't tend to upgrade Macs at two year intervals.

Hopefully any really rough edges will be smoothed out by release. It's only at DP1 so there's time.
 
Hope there is an option to make it look better on non retina displays if it truly looks as bad as people are suggesting.

That being said, I don't get what the fuss is over iOS 7 on non retina devices. Looks fine on my iPad 2.
 
Likely. Why else would they spend so much time making a detailed trashcan?

Not sure why such a statement was up voted. Did you buy one? have you used it?
EDIT: I thought you meant Mac Pro as a trashcan. You were talking about the actual trashcan. Apologies :]

The trashcan, however, IMO, looks so weird. Also the rectangle around the dock doesn't look right. Feels almost like if they made the icons float with really heavy shadows, it would look better than just a weird translucent rectangle.



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30" retina thunderbolt display please!

or 24" for those of us that like dual screens. I have dual 27's right now, but it's just waaay too much head turning.
 
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Further to my last post, just a quick question for anyone who'd know: if one of the biggest issues on non Retina displays is font readability, would it be theoretically feasible (admittedly not likely) for the OS to be written to include a case type statement at boot to set the system font based on screen resolution?

High dpi = Helvetica Neue
Standard dpi = Lucida Grande (or even a heavier version of Helvetica)

Maybe that would help at least on the font side of things.
 
Further to my last post, just a quick question for anyone who'd know: if one of the biggest issues on non Retina displays is font readability, would it be theoretically feasible (admittedly not likely) for the OS to be written to include a case type statement at boot to set the system font based on screen resolution?

High dpi = Helvetica Neue
Standard dpi = Lucida Grande (or even a heavier version of Helvetica)

Maybe that would help at least on the font side of things.

Not using Yosemite on retina and quite honestly it looks fine. Fonts look great still. Even on a 23" 1080p monitor.
 
If Yosemite is designed for Retina screens, then why are all the icons so plain looking? Why are all the menu screens, Finder, etc so blah??

Exactly my complaint. iOS 7 not only looks ugly, it defeats the purpose of the retina ability in the GUI. Doing the same to Mac OS X, though it looks less ugly than iOS 7, feels like the same backwards thinking.

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I've never seen the attraction of transparency in the GUI. Just makes things harder to read. I think it's mostly a marketing gimmick.

You're right. It's just eye candy marketing.

Apple are going a long way toward undoing their reputation of being GUI experts.

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Yes, lens flares. After all, we need it to look more like JJAbram's Star Trek!

Yeah, another "pro" that seems to not understand that things like lens flares are things cinematographers actively seek to avoid...

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... While it doesn't add any functionality, it doesn't take anything away, either. It's just...UI bling.

And wasted GPU cycles.

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I don't get the whole retina thing, unless it's on smaller devices where fat pixels are a no-no and fine smooth pixels are God-sent.

Then it's not for you. Wait till you're older and your eyes are less comfy with blurry text and GUI graphics. People like me (near-sighted and bearing 40) find retina the only way to go. My iPhone 4 spoiled me for all displays. I wish my MacBook Pro 5,5 could be traded for a rMBP since I do my writing there. My old CRT is hideous compared to LCD, let alone retina LCD, and that's where I do my photography.

High PPI displays won't be everywhere nearly soon enough for my comfort. It's been too long in coming as is. If not for Apple, we wouldn't have seen it for probably another few decades because people that don't get it are running the computer industry.

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You know that was a reference to the Mac Pro looking like a trash can, right? Watch the keynote video again and you'll pick up on that. :p

Yeah, I caught that and was very amused :-D
 
That's been built into OS X with Aqua UI for a while now. Same with most UNIX based OS.

But it doesn't work. Resolution independence has failed to be solved because of the changes to element placement on varying display sizes and resolution settings. If you want clipped elements and labels, sure, the current implementations can provide that... Apple chose to go with doubling bitmap sizes as the only way to be sure they can define the GUI layout. Resizable element behaviors aren't predictable enough.
 
Ugh...

"Thin Helvetica Neue replaces the long-serving but chunky Lucida Grande as the system typeface."

I hate Helvetica Neue...

And calling Lucida Grande "chunky"?

Why is Apple obsessed with making text HARDER to read?
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Because they have an industrial designer in charge of GUI design now. GUI design is apparently well outside Jony Ive's expertise.

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I would really appreciate the option to use Lucida Grande system-wide. Not everyone has a retina display nor is every Mac user a young 20-something with perfect 20/20 vision.

Wait till Jony Ive gets older...
 
All that 4k real state and they make the UI controls tiny and difficult to use. Nice one Jony!
 
I can't believe this is been a rumor ....

Why wouldn't 10.10 be made for Retina...??

the hardware is there


That photo just looks ugly as hell..

I'd just be happy if i could i could turn off transparency, just u can disable Aero in Windows 7....

I don't mind it, just as long its not all over the OS even ever since bar you can think of.

I reckon that what we'll see, and if so, I'm staying with Mavericks..

I should have known that iOS 7 would take a sneak peak at what's ahead.

At least make 10.10 look good on every mac, not just for macs Apple reckons it should look good on.

That'd i'd be happy with for one. Otherwise people will go feral..
 
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