OS X Yosemite Designed for Retina Screens?

[MacSince1990]

You were expecting some explosions and flares to take advantage of the extra ppi?

I think his point is the icons/UI wouldn't look much different on a 640x480 display (and I must say, I agree; I think the flat UI is ugly, uninspired and boring).

My MBP's display is 1680x1050, and it's plenty. Sometimes I'd like 1920x1200, but oh well. They never offered it.

 

[searching-again]

Ugh...
Why is Apple obsessed with making text HARDER to read?

Prescription iGlasses in the product pipeline?

Sigh.

Amen to that.

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I take it, you prefer IPS? Coming right up. That'll be $4000 please, how would you like to pay for that?

We do that pay that, and more.

 

[UniEdit]

The change from Lucida Grande to Helvetica Neue makes a huge impact, specially when surrounded <strike>with</strike> by a much more simplified interface.

Just take a look at Safari 8 and compare it to the previous iteration. It's just gorgeous and so, so simple, that it makes you wonder why wasn't this done before.

After living with Yosemite for a few months, I can tell you that nothing is any simpler than it was. They made things smaller and changed icons, but the layout is the same. It is just uglier and harder to use than ever before. As for Safari 8, how the h_ll can you look at that two-pixel-tall loading bar and call it "gorgeous"? I have to work on my computer almost sixteen hours every day and have never had a problem with it until Yosemite. Now, I get horrific headaches after minutes of straining to see things like the stupid loading bar and thin text on the bright white backgrounds.

I was an Apple fanboy since I first learned about computers, but I haven't been since iOS 7. Now, I see you fanboys following Jony Ive and hero-worshipping him, but you cannot even defend your stance. You always respond with the words he first said, in exactly the same way. You are like mindless drones, and I have seen so many of you get stuck trying to find the basic features in iOS 7 and Yosemite that I will probably never come running back to Apple.

Look at this list. Items 2 and 9 prove that Ive has no clue about design, and rest of the list shows that he only cares about chrome and bling (they are also universally hated designs, so I dare you to defend them). His idea of "minimalism" is nothing more than a mass of unlabeled buttons and thin slits.

http://www.wired.com/2013/11/18-of-jony-ives-favorite-designs-of-all-time/#slideid-327111

 

[OmegaRed1723]

False. I'm running the beta on a Mid 2010 MBP.

And I'm running it on a late 2007 MBP!

 

[Apple_Robert]

I am in the 40+ (soon to be 50 group) and haven't had any problems viewing Yosemite on my late 2011 MBP.

In my opinion, the screen looks good. I think the OS was made for a wide variety of Apple products. Not everyone is going to like the look. Not everyone has the same ocular makeup.

If Yosemite is still hard on the eyes after it is publicly released and one is not able to make adjustments, it might behoove one to use Mavericks instead.

 

[UniEdit]

I am in the 40+ (soon to be 50 group) and haven't had any problems viewing Yosemite on my late 2011 MBP.

In my opinion, the screen looks good. I think the OS was made for a wide variety of Apple products. Not everyone is going to like the look. Not everyone has the same ocular makeup.

If Yosemite is still hard on the eyes after it is publicly released and one is not able to make adjustments, it might behoove one to use Mavericks instead.

I actually use the same computer, and I am not even into my twenties. If I cannot adapt after months using it, there is a good chance that another 10-20% of users will have similar difficulties. If Yosemite's design gets a 75% approval rating and my low end is correct, that means that 35% of users would be stuck in the past. I respect your opinion, but I cannot see how they could possibly justify leaving 35% of their users in the past just because Ive wanted to redesign things.

The lack of depth perception is also getting on my nerves. I can hardly see things on the new system anyway. The human brain uses visual input for a lot of things, and anything that it cannot make sense of will throw it off. When depth perception is lacking, the human brain must strain to keep everything as it should be. In short, if you are not used to it, the iOS 7/Yosemite design could very easily make you lose your balance and cause headaches, which is exactly why people are complaining of vertigo.

Even worse, Jobs hated this design and that of iOS 7. Back when the original iPhone was being designed, Jobs almost had Ive fired for presenting the iOS 7 design, because it was "unintuitive and wasteful". Apple employees are constantly talking about honoring Steve Jobs, but, the moment he dies, they ruin the interface that developed after decades of research and design.


By the way, I like your signature.

 

[Apple_Robert]

I actually use the same computer, and I am not even into my twenties. If I cannot adapt after months using it, there is a good chance that another 10-20% of users will have similar difficulties. If Yosemite's design gets a 75% approval rating and my low end is correct, that means that 35% of users would be stuck in the past. I respect your opinion, but I cannot see how they could possibly justify leaving 35% of their users in the past just because Ive wanted to redesign things.

The lack of depth perception is also getting on my nerves. I can hardly see things on the new system anyway. The human brain uses visual input for a lot of things, and anything that it cannot make sense of will throw it off. When depth perception is lacking, the human brain must strain to keep everything as it should be. In short, if you are not used to it, the iOS 7/Yosemite design could very easily make you lose your balance and cause headaches, which is exactly why people are complaining of vertigo.

Even worse, Jobs hated this design and that of iOS 7. Back when the original iPhone was being designed, Jobs almost had Ive fired for presenting the iOS 7 design, because it was "unintuitive and wasteful". Apple employees are constantly talking about honoring Steve Jobs, but, the moment he dies, they ruin the interface that developed after decades of research and design.


By the way, I like your signature.

You make some good points. I have seen (some) people complain about getting a headache after using Yosemite.

I am not sure there is a middle of the road solution. I believe Apple is trying to appeal to as large a base as possible. The direction Apple is moving in could affect their market share and retail growth in a negative fashion. If that does happen, i don't believe it will be long before we see the representative change.

I think the current direction of the hardware design will negatively affect Apple's profit a lot sooner than the new OS will. Apple appears to be going to extremes in some areas.

I may not like everything about Yosemite (re: looks and operation). However, I think it is a vast improvement over Mavericks and is definitely welcomed (by me) over Windows 8, which I think is hideous on multiple levels.

Thank you for the compliment of my signature.

 

[Carlosgomes]

After living with Yosemite for a few months, I can tell you that nothing is any simpler than it was. They made things smaller and changed icons, but the layout is the same. It is just uglier and harder to use than ever before. As for Safari 8, how the h_ll can you look at that two-pixel-tall loading bar and call it "gorgeous"? I have to work on my computer almost sixteen hours every day and have never had a problem with it until Yosemite. Now, I get horrific headaches after minutes of straining to see things like the stupid loading bar and thin text on the bright white backgrounds.

I was an Apple fanboy since I first learned about computers, but I haven't been since iOS 7. Now, I see you fanboys following Jony Ive and hero-worshipping him, but you cannot even defend your stance. You always respond with the words he first said, in exactly the same way. You are like mindless drones, and I have seen so many of you get stuck trying to find the basic features in iOS 7 and Yosemite that I will probably never come running back to Apple.

Look at this list. Items 2 and 9 prove that Ive has no clue about design, and rest of the list shows that he only cares about chrome and bling (they are also universally hated designs, so I dare you to defend them). His idea of "minimalism" is nothing more than a mass of unlabeled buttons and thin slits.

http://www.wired.com/2013/11/18-of-jony-ives-favorite-designs-of-all-time/#slideid-327111

I can see that you're angry (I've no idea why), but I still expect you to have some respect. I gave you no reason to be disrespectful.

If you want to have a conversation, be civil. Itt's not that hard.

 

[mostsb]

I feel like true resolution independence — vector-based graphics, resizeable UI — has been just around the corner for so long. Can we hurry that up, please?

Wouldn't that be awesome?

Unfortunately, seeing as though vectors are quite literally computations to form a graphic, I would imagine an entire gui made up of such graphics would be very resource intensive. :/