Can you point me in the direction of something that replicates iTunes simplicity and functionality for TV show episode downloads and movie rentals? If so I'd be heading to verizon and the droid as well.
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Can you point me in the direction of something that replicates iTunes simplicity and functionality for TV show episode downloads and movie rentals? If so I'd be heading to verizon and the droid as well.
So not having any problems at all = denial then?
That guy has been PMing me about what an apologist I am. It's strange that around these forums some days people call you a troll and Apple hater and other days you're an apologist.
I have yet to have any issues with this phone. I guess that makes me a bad guy.
dont show that to the droid fanboys they hunt you down
but seriously my samsung flipshot does the same thing this whole ordeal will be a no issue for me I'm getting a case anyhow.
I messaged you once to say that you essentially have some apologising to do to those you disparaged yesterday for offering their complaints. I also mentioned yesterday that perhaps this is only happening in a few cases, but it never-the-less appears to be a problem. The news today suggests it is a problem in at least the majority of cases. Again, time will tell. But please keep your mind open enough to allow for the possibility that Apple can make mistakes.
I don't know how serious this current problem is as I don't have the iPhone 4. I do know I had similar problems with other phones 5-6 years back. At the time I lived in a marginal service area of Verizon. Since then Verizon has improved service in my area, and I rarely have dropped calls due to phone position or for any other reason. But, it clearly was a case of the attenuation being noticeable due to living in a marginal service area. In the case of the iPhone, at least in the US, people have been complaining about poor ATT service for years, so one has to believe that many people live in marginal service areas.
As far as complaining about the "number of bars" that reception drops compared to other phones: "bars" is not a standard. Five bars on an iPhone 4 might be the same as 2 bars on some other phone. This reminds me a bit of Spinal Tap setting their amps to 11.
As far as complaining about the "number of bars" that reception drops compared to other phones: "bars" is not a standard. Five bars on an iPhone 4 might be the same as 2 bars on some other phone. This reminds me a bit of Spinal Tap setting their amps to 11.
Don't give me that. Go through my post history and you will see a lot more Apple criticism than praise.
I still believe that no one would have noticed this any more than previous generations had Apple not pointed out the new antenna design and some sensationalists "journalists" posted crap stories without doing any research.
I use my phone as a phone with benefits and loading music and movies is actually easier than you think - and with a standard USB cable nonetheless.
Don't do a lot of TV Shows or movies on the phone. I have a Touch for playtime. If I want music on the phone, use Pandora.
I agree with you that this may have gone undiscovered longer if it were not for the new antenna design and our 24 hour turned 60 second news cycle. But in this case, does it make it ok? Are you content with the iPhone just as it is, and Steve Job's email replies to those who aren't?
The iPhone 4 has a wider range of reception, depending on how you hold it. It's probably much better in really weak coverage areas (providing you can hold it on its right side).
PS - Sorry that is a fair point, I'm only referencing the news and comments surrounding this most recent iPhone reception issue.
Yes, I am fine with the iPhone 4 as it is. I stand by my statement that it's a non-issue under normal use conditions and I have yet to experience the issue under exaggerated conditions.
And no I don't approve of Steve's emails, but only because I think he's very rude and most things he says annoy me. But that's for another thread.
You've must have bought Apple's new iHand for iPhone 4 case. I hear it really works well as it's made of non-conductive silicone. Does it have a beltclip?
I did some experimenting with different types of insulators over the lower left bar. None them seemed to help at all. It makes me wonder if a case will do anything to help the situation. It seems to be a simple matter of *really* keeping your palm off the lower left.... just like all other phones tell you to keep hands/fingers away from antenna as well. Aside from signal degradation on ANY phone, it will also cause your phone to chew more battery when you do.
That being said, I have no problem with that at all. Were it not for all the arm waving, I probably would never have noticed the issue.
That being said, I have no problem with that at all. Were it not for all the arm waving, I probably would never have noticed the issue.
I am a proud owner of an original iPhone, aka iPhone 2G, and since last 3 years, NEVER saw my signal drop from 4/5 bars to 1/NONE. NEVER
Even squeezing the black plastic, dancing on it, diving with it, nope.
This IS a design issue with the iPhone 4. I was actually getting ready to go to the Apple store to pick my reserved iPhone 4, but seeing this signal issue, which is a design issue, and not going away, I am very sad to let go of this version. Which is great in all other aspects.
Yellow screen is one thing, you can live with it, and exchange it later on with a good one. But this signal issue is here to stay until Apple changes the way the antennas are designed.
Relax
Reading through these comments has been a riot- really. That said, I think I have some good news on how the Company is going to handle the situation... I do this kind of thing for a living
Before the end of business (EST) on Friday, a statement to all customers with existing orders as well as those who have already purchased will be sent via email. It will begin restating much of what was already explained in the brief Company statement released Thursday evening- that all phones on the market today are susceptible to reception interference based on the manner in which the user holds the device relative to the built in antennae. The statement will then go on to explain that while the latest design of Apple's iPhone has proven to have the best reception of any model released to date, Apple understands that *some* customers may experience issues more than others. With that in mind, Apple is happy to offer these customers a complimentary case OR the customer has the option of returning the iPhone within 30 days of purchase for a full refund and release of contract with AT&T. Apple understands the high expectations of it's customers and appreciates the feedback as it continues to develop state of the art products.
Reading through these comments has been a riot- really. That said, I think I have some good news on how the Company is going to handle the situation... I do this kind of thing for a living
Before the end of business (EST) on Friday, a statement to all customers with existing orders as well as those who have already purchased will be sent via email. It will begin restating much of what was already explained in the brief Company statement released Thursday evening- that all phones on the market today are susceptible to reception interference based on the manner in which the user holds the device relative to the built in antennae. The statement will then go on to explain that while the latest design of Apple's iPhone has proven to have the best reception of any model released to date, Apple understands that *some* customers may experience issues more than others. With that in mind, Apple is happy to offer these customers a complimentary case OR the customer has the option of returning the iPhone within 30 days of purchase for a full refund and release of contract with AT&T. Apple understands the high expectations of it's customers and appreciates the feedback as it continues to develop state of the art products.
Interesting article
Interesting article http://www.antennasys.com/antennasys-blog/2010/6/24/apple-iphone-4-antennas.html
Interesting article http://www.antennasys.com/antennasys-blog/2010/6/24/apple-iphone-4-antennas.html
You've must have bought Apple's new iHand for iPhone 4 case. I hear it really works well as it's made of non-conductive silicone. Does it have a beltclip?
Lmao
As many voices before me have noted, this is how modern RF devices are made with those internal antennas, hidden from the user. The important factor here is to validate real world use that shows drop calls or signal loss while on a call, or in general a qualitative loss of voice or data calls compared to what you were used to have.
Obviously this was thoroughly validated from Apple engineers as it should have been, the design is indeed revolutionary, and only using it can reveal if Apple is right or wrong. My bets are in Apple all the way, this phone will eventually show better signal reception.
As a remedy, because now you are aware of it and maybe Apple should devote a nice document explaining how to avoid signal loss, you can either practice yourself without touching those antenna patches, or use those bumpers, or use an external handsfree earbud.
Obviously you can replicate signal loss on a 3G/S as you can with any mobile handset, by touching the antenna.
Obviously this was thoroughly validated from Apple engineers as it should have been, the design is indeed revolutionary, and only using it can reveal if Apple is right or wrong. My bets are in Apple all the way, this phone will eventually show better signal reception.
As a remedy, because now you are aware of it and maybe Apple should devote a nice document explaining how to avoid signal loss, you can either practice yourself without touching those antenna patches, or use those bumpers, or use an external handsfree earbud.
Obviously you can replicate signal loss on a 3G/S as you can with any mobile handset, by touching the antenna.
there's no app for that...
"It just works....as long as you hold it the right way."
"Think different....ly about how you hold your phone."
-Steve Jobs
"It just works....as long as you hold it the right way."
"Think different....ly about how you hold your phone."
-Steve Jobs
Mr. Jobs,
I love
. I like iPhone 3G, 3GS, and 4.
I want to use my iPhone 4. Pleeeeeassssse do recall !!!!
Sent from my iPhone 4 without holding it.
I love
. I like iPhone 3G, 3GS, and 4.I want to use my iPhone 4.
Pleeeeeassssse do recall !!!!Sent from my iPhone 4 without holding it.
Reading through these comments has been a riot- really. That said, I think I have some good news on how the Company is going to handle the situation... I do this kind of thing for a living
Before the end of business (EST) on Friday, a statement to all customers with existing orders as well as those who have already purchased will be sent via email. It will begin restating much of what was already explained in the brief Company statement released Thursday evening- that all phones on the market today are susceptible to reception interference based on the manner in which the user holds the device relative to the built in antennae. The statement will then go on to explain that while the latest design of Apple's iPhone has proven to have the best reception of any model released to date, Apple understands that *some* customers may experience issues more than others. With that in mind, Apple is happy to offer these customers a complimentary case OR the customer has the option of returning the iPhone within 30 days of purchase for a full refund and release of contract with AT&T. Apple understands the high expectations of it's customers and appreciates the feedback as it continues to develop state of the art products.
I think you're 100 percent on the mark. And I'd love a job in your area.
Relax
Reading through these comments has been a riot- really. That said, I think I have some good news on how the Company is going to handle the situation... I do this kind of thing for a living
Before the end of business (EST) on Friday, a statement to all customers with existing orders as well as those who have already purchased will be sent via email. It will begin restating much of what was already explained in the brief Company statement released Thursday evening- that all phones on the market today are susceptible to reception interference based on the manner in which the user holds the device relative to the built in antennae. The statement will then go on to explain that while the latest design of Apple's iPhone has proven to have the best reception of any model released to date, Apple understands that *some* customers may experience issues more than others. With that in mind, Apple is happy to offer these customers a complimentary case OR the customer has the option of returning the iPhone within 30 days of purchase for a full refund and release of contract with AT&T. Apple understands the high expectations of it's customers and appreciates the feedback as it continues to develop state of the art products.
Reading through these comments has been a riot- really. That said, I think I have some good news on how the Company is going to handle the situation... I do this kind of thing for a living
Before the end of business (EST) on Friday, a statement to all customers with existing orders as well as those who have already purchased will be sent via email. It will begin restating much of what was already explained in the brief Company statement released Thursday evening- that all phones on the market today are susceptible to reception interference based on the manner in which the user holds the device relative to the built in antennae. The statement will then go on to explain that while the latest design of Apple's iPhone has proven to have the best reception of any model released to date, Apple understands that *some* customers may experience issues more than others. With that in mind, Apple is happy to offer these customers a complimentary case OR the customer has the option of returning the iPhone within 30 days of purchase for a full refund and release of contract with AT&T. Apple understands the high expectations of it's customers and appreciates the feedback as it continues to develop state of the art products.