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The interference of the Human Electrical system, news at 11
Having wet contact points [sweat on hands] with current running through the path of least resistance surprises folks as it's point of contact is a conductive metal?
Seriously?
The reason it gets better with a cover is because of the indirect contact that acts as an insulator against disrupting the signal.
Having wet contact points [sweat on hands] with current running through the path of least resistance surprises folks as it's point of contact is a conductive metal?
Seriously?
The reason it gets better with a cover is because of the indirect contact that acts as an insulator against disrupting the signal.
Great article, and my sentiments exactly. This phone is the greatest phone I've ever used, and I certainly won't let one tiny spot of the phone that I rarely come in contact with anyway change the way I feel about it.
If I'm a fanboy because of that than so-be-it. At the end of the day I'm happy and thats all that matters to me. If you're not happy about it then take it back and get a refund.... you have the right to do so. Pretty soon there will be android phones with 5 and 6 inch screens for you lodge into your pocket
What a wonderful piece of engineering, so much so that you have to hack it to make it perform well. It's a monumentally bad idea. Analog and RF design has not been Apple's strong point (compare Nokia's phones) and this is another example of its weakness. You claim that this "brilliant" piece of engineering means improved signal, unless you actually want to use your phone. Please, give us a break.
What job is that BS artist? Do you really think that kind of response is appropriate for a product sold at such a premium?
Sounds like NASCAR item, just put some duct tape on it.
I think it is available in multi colors too!
I think it is available in multi colors too!
Great article, and my sentiments exactly. This phone is the greatest phone I've ever used, and I certainly won't let one tiny spot of the phone that I rarely come in contact with anyway change the way I feel about it.
If I'm a fanboy because of that than so-be-it. At the end of the day I'm happy and thats all that matters to me. If you're not happy about it then take it back and get a refund.... you have the right to do so. Pretty soon there will be android phones with 5 and 6 inch screens for you lodge into your pocket
You're a self-admited fan-baoy and that means your response isn't rational, it's emotional. You're basically saying that you'll accept anything that Apple pushes out, no matter what the problems are, and you'll pay handsomely for it. Congrats.
Ahh, I see, so because I am happy with a product regardless of a very minor issue that most ppl never noticed that makes me irrational. RIIIGGHHT. I would say its the other way around. If the same exact issue occured with a Nexus One or an Evo all those ppl would be saying the same thing. 99% of them would be saying huh, I never noticed it... works fine for me, love the phone. I swear its impossible for anyone to be happy with a any product from any company with all the halfwit morons on the Internet.
You've really earned your username. Why would teknishn be a fanboy just because he doesn't mind an issue that he won't encounter under normal phone use?
I think this is not really about being a fanboy or otherwise, it's just a matter of where people choose to focus on. The antennae design may seem like a design flaw, but it is unfair to say that the engineers never thought of it.
If it was never thought of in the first place, it wouldn't have been a 2 piece antennae at all, there wouldn't have been a gap separating them. Obviously they know the problem. The bumpers was not designed and manufactured and delivered overnight, obviously it was one of the solution that they already thought of and cleverly designed.
Nevertheless, it is a fact that this is a "minus" point on the iPhone 4, amongst all the "plus" factors. So why let one flaw blind us on all the other good ones? Well obviously many are not concerned, they are still lining up and ordering their iPhones!
If it was never thought of in the first place, it wouldn't have been a 2 piece antennae at all, there wouldn't have been a gap separating them. Obviously they know the problem. The bumpers was not designed and manufactured and delivered overnight, obviously it was one of the solution that they already thought of and cleverly designed.
Nevertheless, it is a fact that this is a "minus" point on the iPhone 4, amongst all the "plus" factors. So why let one flaw blind us on all the other good ones? Well obviously many are not concerned, they are still lining up and ordering their iPhones!
I wonder what this will do for the value of second hand 3G and 3GS phones. All this negative spin on the iPhone 4 might persuade people to buy older phones.
Hopefully I can sell mine for almost as much as I paid for it.
Hopefully I can sell mine for almost as much as I paid for it.
I have previously owned two different Nokia phones one being an N97 which did exactly same from time to time without warning. The other one was two years ago. I have seen my iPhone 3Gs dropout mainly to black spots where I have been traveling. Other than that some dropout are coming from the other party suddenly dropping out.
To me it is something that seems to be common place across most of not all phones at sometime or another.
To me it is something that seems to be common place across most of not all phones at sometime or another.
Furthermore, the N1 has been plagued by numerous reception issues. The Evo has been hit with poor battery performance, poor frame rates, screen separation, and abhorrent wifi reception regardless of how you hold it.
Does this mean all of those owners that are still completely happy with their product are fanboy idiot lemmings too?
I guess its fair to say with these halfwit morons on the Internet that anyone owning a product that is not 100% perfect is a stupid fanboy and irrational. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
additional bumper issue
Did anyone else on here notice that when the bumper is attached that their headphones can't make a solid, clean connection with the phone. This totally sucks because if I want to listen to my music without having to play with the connection I have to take off the bumper!? Seriously?
I guess that I could "fix" the problem if I just got a pair of headphones with a different connection, but I like my Sennheiser px 200s and I don't want to buy another pair of headphones.
Another alternative is to remove the bumper but I NEED IT TO FIX THE RECEPTION ISSUE! ARGGHHH.
p.s. I realize that none of these issues are particularly serious (but what is on macrumors.com) and I still like the phone, but I figured I'd contribute because people really are highlighting potential concerns that perhaps Apple should address some of these. Can someone who knows Steve Jobs pass on my concern?
Did anyone else on here notice that when the bumper is attached that their headphones can't make a solid, clean connection with the phone. This totally sucks because if I want to listen to my music without having to play with the connection I have to take off the bumper!? Seriously?
I guess that I could "fix" the problem if I just got a pair of headphones with a different connection, but I like my Sennheiser px 200s and I don't want to buy another pair of headphones.
Another alternative is to remove the bumper but I NEED IT TO FIX THE RECEPTION ISSUE! ARGGHHH.
p.s. I realize that none of these issues are particularly serious (but what is on macrumors.com) and I still like the phone, but I figured I'd contribute because people really are highlighting potential concerns that perhaps Apple should address some of these. Can someone who knows Steve Jobs pass on my concern?
my 2G, 3G and 3Gs DO NOT experience this.
I guess the issue is a design flaw with our hands, since the iPhone is PERFECT
Really Steve? Ive had cellular phones since 1994. Never have I been told I need to hold a phone 'just so'. This is bs and an embarasement and you know it.
Class action suit starts tomorrow.
Pathetic.
What kind of cases is Apple talking about? They sold one today at the store...and only in one color, and that was the bumper... And it was sold out by the afternoon.
Does everyone complaining understand that touching 1 exact spot on the phone causes the signal issue. It's not that hard to avoid this 1 little spot.
I have the new iPhone and have simply shifted my left hand grip to be slightly higher. Also Apple did say there is a software issue with the way bars are being displayed so this is most likely making the issue look worse then it is.
Bottom line I have been surfing the web (wrote this from my phone) talking to my friends and utilizing the phone just like I did my 3GS. All with a slight shift in my grip to avoid a small spot on the phone. Pretty simple really. If you can't deal with it return the phone and get something else.
I have the new iPhone and have simply shifted my left hand grip to be slightly higher. Also Apple did say there is a software issue with the way bars are being displayed so this is most likely making the issue look worse then it is.
Bottom line I have been surfing the web (wrote this from my phone) talking to my friends and utilizing the phone just like I did my 3GS. All with a slight shift in my grip to avoid a small spot on the phone. Pretty simple really. If you can't deal with it return the phone and get something else.
I think some ppl out there need a good dose of reality. ALL electronics products are flawed and have shortcomings. And ALL electronics have a real failure rate. For some reason some folks think Apple is supposed to be an exception to that rule just because they sell some really great products in large quantity. They're not! Apples products are just as wonderfully flawed as anything else out there. The good tends to outweigh the bad in my experience.
Take a look at the most flawed product in electronics history. The Xbox360. We are talking ~50% failure rate and the term RROD a household term. I'm on my 3rd. Despite that it's still the best gaming console in the world and hasn't stopped the platform from being the better than the rest.... and yes, before somebody tries to stomp on me, I do own a PS3 and love it too.
Take a look at the most flawed product in electronics history. The Xbox360. We are talking ~50% failure rate and the term RROD a household term. I'm on my 3rd. Despite that it's still the best gaming console in the world and hasn't stopped the platform from being the better than the rest.... and yes, before somebody tries to stomp on me, I do own a PS3 and love it too.
I saw a video posted where the guy was live on a phone call and performed the antenna block test. The bars dropped all the way and said searching yet the call was still live. They have also demonstrated the issue with a 3GS on iOS 4; however, the problem didn't exist with 3.x. In that regard, I bet we will see an iOS 4.01 in the near future to fix part of it.
I'm trying to do that test myself, but atm no matter what I do I can't get it to completely lose all signal.... I'll keep trying.
Going to evo
So an apple Fan boy just switched to the sprint Evo. We were side by side. Calling same number. NYC. His went thru. Mine failed because i held the phone wrong
Screw u Steve
So an apple Fan boy just switched to the sprint Evo. We were side by side. Calling same number. NYC. His went thru. Mine failed because i held the phone wrong
Screw u Steve
In other words no. I use my phone as an all in one device. And the iPhone delivers the best bang for my buck.
I don't have a new iphone yet - but I was planning on getting a case for it anyway and don't seem to naturally hold the phone in a manner that would cause interference. So I guess I'm good to go.
This sucks for me because I want to get an iPhone 4. I think I will wait until Apple really does something. Or it gets resolved etc.
I think I will wait until Apple really does something. Or it gets resolved etc.I've had cell phones for 15 years. I've Never had to worry how I held the phone.
Justice dept?
I kid. I'm returning this phone and sticking withnmy 3 g. U suck jobs
Justice dept?
I kid. I'm returning this phone and sticking withnmy 3 g. U suck jobs