Guess what? You're going to be paying those same fees at T-Mobile or any carrier and they probably won't disclose those to you either. They're government fees and taxes. Charged by the government. Every carrier will have them.
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OUch, AT&T RIP OFF - iPhone 3G allure
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Guess what? You're going to be paying those same fees at T-Mobile or any carrier and they probably won't disclose those to you either. They're government fees and taxes. Charged by the government. Every carrier will have them.
Just set up an order on AT&T with two free phones, an iPhone and a Blackberry (could only do one iphone per account online so I just matched the data plans), 700 minute plan (to allow for 3 extra lines) and family text plan.
The total monthly is 179.97
The total monthly after a 25% discount is: 135.98 (you quoted 140 in the first post, so I'm assuming you had roadside assistance or insurance on one or more of the lines)
This is all pre tax. So assuming your 18.18 for the first line, and then assuming the other three lines are 4.20 each (given the information you provided)
Your monthly rate is roughly 162.56, which is exactly what you quoted in your first post. Looks like AT&T's math is fine and you aren't being screwed over at all.
The total monthly is 179.97
The total monthly after a 25% discount is: 135.98 (you quoted 140 in the first post, so I'm assuming you had roadside assistance or insurance on one or more of the lines)
This is all pre tax. So assuming your 18.18 for the first line, and then assuming the other three lines are 4.20 each (given the information you provided)
Your monthly rate is roughly 162.56, which is exactly what you quoted in your first post. Looks like AT&T's math is fine and you aren't being screwed over at all.
A FAN discount does not apply to txt packages. I have a Honda FAN account and it only applies to voice and data. Maybe your sales person was new and thought that FAN discounts applied to the entire monthly bill, hence your ridiculous $110 oral quote for 4 lines with unlimited txting...I dunno but there was definitely ill perceptions and lack of communication. Hell, I have 1 iPhone with the cheapest voice and txt plan and it runs $79 before my FAN discount. The idea that you were gonna get 2 iPhones with 4 lines and a bunch of goodies for slightly less... 
What state do you live in? CA? NY? IL? I would move the heck out of your state as they are taxing the crap out of you. I live in DE and my total tax and fees are $2.46.
What state do you live in? CA? NY? IL? I would move the heck out of your state as they are taxing the crap out of you. I live in DE and my total tax and fees are $2.46.
LOL, NO I WON'T. That's FOR SURE. Lower billing a month per line equates to lower taxes.
It sounds like you already have your mind made up about going back to T-Mobile, so why even bother complaining about it here? If you don't like what you're getting from AT&T just go back to T-Mobile.
LOL, NO I WON'T. That's FOR SURE. Lower billing a month per line equates to lower taxes.
There are a number of surcharges, that are not percentage based taxes, so you will be paying most of them.
First you say your price was supposed to be around 120/month after taxes, then you say it was supposed to be 140/month after taxes. no wonder AT&T isn't doing much to help you, you can't get your facts straight.
If a salesman promised a certain price per month you should be speaking to his/her manager to either correct the matter permanently or end your contract without paying an ETF. It's called a verbal contract.
Personally if I worked for AT&T still and you were talking to me as you have done on these forums I wouldn't help as I would be under the belief you're not being fully honest. Maybe you are telling the complete truth, I don't knw I can only go by what you've typed on the forums.
I have two iPhones on my account. My wife and I share 550 anytime minutes. I get a 20% discount through work which comes out to $24 per month off my bill. I used the TMS discounts to get 750 texts on one line for $7.49 and 1500 texts for $8.99 on the other. Surcharges and taxes total around $12 a month. My monthly bill is around $124/month.
I could add another line for $9.99 plust texting and I would be a little over $140. Throw in some city taxes and surcharges, which I don't currently pay, and I'd be at $150. Take away the discounted texting plans and then I'd be at $160.
It looks like you are getting a discount otherwise, you'd be paying around $180.
I could add another line for $9.99 plust texting and I would be a little over $140. Throw in some city taxes and surcharges, which I don't currently pay, and I'd be at $150. Take away the discounted texting plans and then I'd be at $160.
It looks like you are getting a discount otherwise, you'd be paying around $180.
Oh, without a doubt.
Here are the lies that were told to me originally.
1) I was originally told that the family plan for the 2 iPhone lines is $129 bottom-line. That's all. It even says this on the website. But, it's actually $129+1 more $30 data plan. Or, $159.
2) My wife has a 24% off FAN discount. I was told that this means 24% off the whole entire family plan bill (except for taxes in your bill, which I completely understand). Not true. They take off 24% off my wife's line only (we have 2 iPhone lines and 2 non-data lines) and this does not even include 24% off her line's data plan (even though they require you to get it).
One of the first lessons I learned about cellular service was to never trust what the salesman tells you.
It's not just AT&T LOL . This is my last verizon bill for ONE LINE, of $69.99:
Verizon Wireless Surcharges and Other Charges & Credits $5.12
Fed Universal Service Charge
.95
Regulatory Charge
.07
Administrative Charge
.85
PA Gross Receipt Surchg
3.25
Taxes, Governmental Surcharges & Fees $4.90
PA State Wireless E911 Surchg
1.00
PA State Sales Tax
3.90
Total: $10.02
. This is my last verizon bill for ONE LINE, of $69.99: Verizon Wireless Surcharges and Other Charges & Credits $5.12
Fed Universal Service Charge
.95
Regulatory Charge
.07
Administrative Charge
.85
PA Gross Receipt Surchg
3.25
Taxes, Governmental Surcharges & Fees $4.90
PA State Wireless E911 Surchg
1.00
PA State Sales Tax
3.90
Total: $10.02
i see that all of you have a fan discount or some sort of discount around here.
how can i get one?
as small as it can be, but I want a discount too
Go here: http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/?WT.svl=3
Enter your school or work email and it'll tell you if AT&T offers the place of employment a fan discount
i see that all of you have a fan discount or some sort of discount around here.
how can i get one?
as small as it can be, but I want a discount too
I thought I was the only one who didn't get a discount.
It's not just AT&T LOL
Verizon Wireless Surcharges and Other Charges & Credits $5.12
Fed Universal Service Charge
.95
Regulatory Charge
.07
Administrative Charge
.85
PA Gross Receipt Surchg
3.25
Taxes, Governmental Surcharges & Fees $4.90
PA State Wireless E911 Surchg
1.00
PA State Sales Tax
3.90
Total: $10.02
Very true. Cell carriers are worse than insurance carriers. However, believe it or not, I never had this problem with Sprint. Sure, they would lie to you initially. But then all you had to do was call them back and come up with your own lies. Magically, they would then start to give you discounts and other free stuff.
All cell phone companies do this. When I 1st went to Verizon I had billing issues with my work discount and it took them 6 months to fix. at&t isn't the only one who does this.
LOL & this thread. Going from AT&T to T-Mobile is literally jumping from the frying pan into the fire. Several things:
1.) AT&T's 3G network does indeed suck, but T-Mobile's is non-existent. They don't have 3G at all.
2.) T-Mobile's coverage sucks. Their rates are somewhat lower but good luck getting a signal.
3.) Ever need to have your iPhone serviced/replaced by Apple? You may be able to un-jailbreak and restore, but you'll still have a T-Mobile SIM card.
4.) The first 3 points were already widely known before you inked the deal with AT&T.
1.) AT&T's 3G network does indeed suck, but T-Mobile's is non-existent. They don't have 3G at all.
2.) T-Mobile's coverage sucks. Their rates are somewhat lower but good luck getting a signal.
3.) Ever need to have your iPhone serviced/replaced by Apple? You may be able to un-jailbreak and restore, but you'll still have a T-Mobile SIM card.
4.) The first 3 points were already widely known before you inked the deal with AT&T.
they recently raised my bill because they said they "mistakenly gave my corporate discount off the data plan when it's supposed to be for the voice plan only"
i was paying $75 a month before and now i'm paying $82... not much of a difference but still, they didn't let me know before raising my bill.
i was paying $75 a month before and now i'm paying $82... not much of a difference but still, they didn't let me know before raising my bill.
Supposedly it's flat...
Say WHAT?!
This had BETTER fall under unlimited data or count as a text message when 3.0 comes out or I am going to be utterly furious.
It won't fall under unlimited data, no carrier bundles MMS with data. It will be included in a messaging plan. Depending on the plan you currently have, you may not need to do anything else.
That's not going to happen. He's talking out of his ass. MMS is included in text plans and comes out of your texting bucket. I have unlimited family texting and my parents and brother who have phones that support MMS are able to send MMS and it's treated as if it were a text message, meaning we don't pay for it.
The only time we have ever paid for messages was when I was outside of the country and roaming, and I was fully aware of that charge before I left.
hell yeah take your phones to t-mobile.
I have 700 minutes, unlimited texting and unlimited data
Blackberry Storm and iPhone 3G
we pay $145
I just discovered I can get a discount on my bill from the company I work for! SO hopefully our bill can go down a little bit with that.
I have 700 minutes, unlimited texting and unlimited data
Blackberry Storm and iPhone 3G
we pay $145
I just discovered I can get a discount on my bill from the company I work for! SO hopefully our bill can go down a little bit with that.