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Yes YOU would like more data about your health but Apple has now data on your health and anyone they choose to share it with (getting life insurence? Oh Apple has "shared" that information)

Nobody really cares about your health information. Plus, it's anonymized. For life insurance purposes they do their own exam.
 
The total cost of ownership to self monitor for a potential patient you quoted is about $1000 with an iPhone and an Apple Watch - fine. To make a blunt dollar amount is misleading, to say the least. How about quoting a similar cost for an alternative smartphone and a monitoring device (smartwatch or Fitbit type device) combo simultaneously to see how much more the Apple system costs, and if the comparison is fair? Especially, if the costs are not compromised by data mining or advertising interests.

An iPhone SE 32GB and the previous generation Apple Watch 3 together cost about $600 with tax. The similar Android can cost $300-400 - are you willing to bet a life on the basis of this savings?

The point is Apple demands you use an iPhone. A Fitbit is about $100 and works with any phone. Other devices also work with any phone.
 
Where is your data showing the issues were fake?

We have a lot of stories of Apple products saving lives. If only 0.5% of the participants got irregular notifications, it’s certainly not overly sensitive.

I’d rather have more data about my health than less and if I am checked out “OK” after being notified of an issue, I’m not mad at Apple.


I think you missed the "Apple purposely slows down older iPhones to force people to buy new ones" joke there...
 
So what did this lead to? 0.5% got the notification and then what? Did they all really have irregular heart rhythm or were there false positives?

You've already received several good answers, but I was one of the false positives. After I received an alert overnight, I spoke to a doctor. They sent me a patch that I wore for a week and then mailed back to them (postage-paid envelope). After they analyzed it, I spoke to another doctor who said that I did not have any abnormalities during that week. I have some minor ECG changes frequently seen in endurance athletes (36 marathons), including a resting HR in the 40's, and she said that they were excited to have my data in the study to try to reduce false positives in athletes. (She really was very upbeat!)
 
I have some minor ECG changes frequently seen in endurance athletes (36 marathons), including a resting HR in the 40's, and she said that they were excited to have my data in the study to try to reduce false positives in athletes.

Your (athletic) resting heart rate mimics the Ventricular heart rate seen in atrial fibrillation. Good that they followed up and cleared the matter:) - 21st century with a flavor of snail mail.:cool:
 
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“I would not advise this to the overall general population,” said Dr Valentin Fuster, director of Mount Sinai Heart in New York and a former American Heart Association president
 
Dr. Jordan Safirstein, an interventional cardiologist at Morristown Medical Center, said the result was “amazing,” not because of the results, but because researchers were able to recruit a staggering 419,000 patients in a very short period of time, and follow up on them only with telemedicine.

“It’s a lovely demonstration of how we can enroll patients completely virtually, which I think is a huge extension for us in terms of patient engagement and enrollment,” Safirstein said.

https://www.statnews.com/2019/03/16/acc-apple-watch-study/
 
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So what did this lead to? 0.5% got the notification and then what? Did they all really have irregular heart rhythm or were there false positives?


Good question, but more specifically: where these registrations meaningfull? (As in: do they need treatment?) If not, nice gimmic. Guidelines still tell us, screening is not recommended, something to do with yield and price. With the presented yield Apple sells 200 watches for a single detection. But how many to save (or improve) a life? The Apple (financial) part I get, my patients (at risk) probably will not fit the AppleWatch/heartstudy profile.
 
from what I can gather, there's no effective treatment for Atrial Fibrillation. So what's the point in wearing a detector for it?
There is no definite cure, but rather "workarounds" such as an ablation. Ablations can be quite effective, but it's not a 100% guarantee for all patients. Also they may need to be adjusted every several years. The drugs out there do help in the short term with regular usage, but can cause serious conditions when taken for long periods of time.
 
A physician will place a person in a thirty day heart holter monitor if there is a concern for an intermittent issue that could be deadly. I’ve seen some pretty ridiculous comments on macrumors, but “get an Apple Watch” instead of “go see your doctor” pretty much takes the cake.
Did someone make that comment? I guess I missed it.
 
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