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Over-The-Air Software Update Saves 700MB of Downloading

Has anyone done a study/has knowledge of what this will do to jailbreaks?

Is this feature "forced" onto the phone or can the user select when to do it?

Thank you
 
Finally worked on mu iphone 4

To everyone hanging at <1 min, just hang in there some more! It'll eventually do it!
 
OTA worked a lot faster on my iPad 2. My iPhone 4 hung at <1 minute for 30 minutes or so but it worked!
 
thetoad30 said:
Has anyone done a study/has knowledge of what this will do to jailbreaks?

Is this feature "forced" onto the phone or can the user select when to do it?

Thank you
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In beta 3 the user has to explicitly start the update process. But this says nothing about how it will be in the final. Even if it is automatic I would worry too much about the possibilities to jailbreak. The jb-community has proven to be highly innovative in circumventing these things..
 
What's the OTA update size for an iPad 2 Wifi?

Just curious as I've already downloaded the full thing.

Thanks.
 
pic620 said:
my iPad updated OTA no problem. but my iPhone was hanging. so I restet it. now settings crashes everytime I open it. I'm gonna have to reinstall from my Mac. which will take a good hour with all the music I have on there. fml. this was supposed to be easier.
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I did the same thing and had the same problem, but just let it sit for a while. Settings eventually started working again. Though the update bombed after that. Now I'm trying again.
 
BEWARE:

If you started downloading the update, but decided to do a sync of the iPhone to backup your data, after awhile the iPhone pops up this message:

Software Update
iOS 5 beta 4 will be installed in 10 seconds. Your iPhone will restart when installation is finished.

I think it started the countdown at 10 seconds. I noticed it at about 7 seconds and then snapped a quick screen shot at 4 seconds and hit the Later button.

I do not know if this would interrupt any other processes. After it popped up I noticed my iTunes backup had complete, so maybe it does it if it notices the iPhone is idle. In which case, I guess it doesn't quite matter. But apparently initiating the download will automatically trigger the install process after a given time period. If I had to guess, it would have been 15 minutes or so after the download finished for me. Below is a screenshot of this "new feature":

softwareupdate.png
 
Finally... this is probably because of the wireless data networks' capping data... who would ever want to update if it drives you either a. well over your limit or b. uses up half of your monthly allotment of data?
 
I have the update on both my iPad 2 and iPhone 4. I had a friend add my udid to help him test his projects.

Am I able to set up an iCloud account? Or do I need to be the paid dev?
 
MacRumors said:
The over-the-air software update only downloads code that has changed or been updated in the update, thus making for a much smaller download. In this case, 691 MB smaller.
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Plus, you need to factor in possibly needed a new version of xCode (3 Gig?) and and possibly a new version of iTunes (150 MB?).

This is very interesting for the future. We might get updates more often...

Gary
 
Natesac said:
I have the update on both my iPad 2 and iPhone 4. I had a friend add my udid to help him test his projects.

Am I able to set up an iCloud account? Or do I need to be the paid dev?
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If you have iOS 5 then you can setup iCloud... It is so nice to finally have things backup without remembering :) lol
 
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OTA update works great!!!!
 
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Easy fix... Do you have a hammer?
 
I kinda liked the clean installs that came with doing an update.

This way is probably better for the average consumer.

Mlrollin91 said:
And its still 133MB? Wow.. Can you do it over 3G and WiFi? I feel bad for whoever is updating without unlimited if it works on 3G.
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I believe that there is a setting so that iCloud and other related features will only work on WiFi.
 
133MB is still a large file to be downloading over the air (via 3G). My mobile plan has 2.5GB allowance which I almost use the whole lot each month. And that's a BIG plan. I'd hate to see what this will do to people with normal plans (1GB or less). I'm hoping the update is this big because of the beta and will get smaller and smaller upon the official release.
 
Yeah Patching is a genius feature isn't it? Or better, wtf haven't they always done this in the first place? Hey, let's do this with iTunes next! Or everything that isn't a full on new version... welcome to yesterday Apple.
 
aussieNickuss said:
133MB is still a large file to be downloading over the air (via 3G). My mobile plan has 2.5GB allowance which I almost use the whole lot each month. And that's a BIG plan. I'd hate to see what this will do to people with normal plans (1GB or less). I'm hoping the update is this big because of the beta and will get smaller and smaller upon the official release.
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You don't have to do anything as over the air updates if you don't want to. My question is, if you update it the old way, is it still a small patch or do they force on you downloading the whole OS again? Which has never been a treat since it fails and has to redownload multiple times in a lot of cases.
 
about damn time Apple did this.

Now I am just going to wait for when they go live for people complaining about how they can not update there iPhone/iPod with an OTA when the battery is less than 50% charged even when plugged in.

50% charge is based on what the other guys currently are doing and I fully support it because last thing you want to have happen is for the phone to loose power mid update and reason you require it even when plugged in is well what happens if power goes out during the update.

Either way this is a good thing and I am glad Apple is doing it. The biggest reason I always hold off updating my iPod is I hate downloading the 700 meg file for even a MINOR update.
 
I thought the whole reason Apple stopped doing patch-style updates is that phones were being bricked because the owner jailbroke them and the incremental patch thus no longer worked?

Did they find a way around this? Maybe a checksum check before the update to make sure the system is stock, and if not, require a full update from iTunes?

Curious!
 
zorinlynx said:
I thought the whole reason Apple stopped doing patch-style updates is that phones were being bricked because the owner jailbroke them and the incremental patch thus no longer worked?

Did they find a way around this? Maybe a checksum check before the update to make sure the system is stock, and if not, require a full update from iTunes?

Curious!
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No Apple never did OTA updates. For the iOS it has always been you have to re-download the entire OS and have it installed when really you only need a delta update. For example the last update that killed jailbreakme.com at most I bet was a 5 meg changed but you still had to download a 700 meg file which is the reason my iPod is still not updated.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
No Apple never did OTA updates. For the iOS it has always been you have to re-download the entire OS and have it installed when really you only need a delta update. For example the last update that killed jailbreakme.com at most I bet was a 5 meg changed but you still had to download a 700 meg file which is the reason my iPod is still not updated.
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I thought the original iPhone had one delta update?
 
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