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Is there one that supports Vista 64? That tool was discontinued over a year ago.

My Imic-USB is freaking out with any type of overclock.

I look in the log and i get this error:

kernel[0]: WARNING: AppleUSBAudio has detected that clock_get_uptime () value changed radically from previous values

The sound brakes up constantly.

This version of SysTool can be used with Vista 64. However, the kernel mode driver is not signed. So you have to press the F8 key, when booting into windows. You should see a menu, where you have to select "Disable driver signature enforcement".

This allows to run SysTool with Vista64. You have to do this every time you boot into Windows. To make it easier, not to miss the right time, when you have to press F8, you may enter "bcdedit /set {bootmgr} DisplayBootMenu yes" at the command prompt.

-Christoph
 
So should I see any problems if I keep the OWC RAM in there? I'm not seeing any other errors in the console. And I've been running this app for about 25 minutes.

I've got 16G of OWC (800MHz) RAM in mine, it's been fine even at 3.2GHz (from 2.8).

In many, many years I've never had a single issue with OWC's memory. And I've bought quite a bit, both professionally and personally.
 
January is the expected date I think...But I think it may take even longer.

The First Mac Pro took from August of 2006 all the way to January of 08 to finally be updated (minus the Octo in April 07).

You said even longer? I think it wouldn't be longer than 1 year, which i believe it's going to be Oct. After the back to school sale.

Mac pro updates:

2006 Aug
8 months later

2007 Apr
9 months later

2008 Jan
? months
 
Most people who have never used PC's don't know what this even is.

Most people who have used PC's and switched to Mac's did so to avoid crap just like this from the PC world.

Personally, I use both on a fulltime basis, and can hardly recommend this. The potential to hose up your Mac or even potentially permanently harm it far outweigh the barley noticeable speed increase.

Actually, that's not true - for audio use for example, you could (back in the day) get a cheap AMD chip (sure it would burn out in three years but you could replace it) that overclocked, beat a CPU costing 5-10X more from Intel and allowed for more plug ins, faster rendering.

If you read the article from ZD you will note that the cheapest 2.8 over clocked ran FASTER than the highest 3.2 machines. This would mean rendering times MUCH faster, plus, for audio, more PLUG INS. If the CPU remains relatively cool, regardless of what form-factor (laptop, mini), in theory the 3.2 might reach speeds of 4.0 on air cooling meaning stock fans.

If you know anything about CPU's and MEMORY, you would know that sometimes the difference between a 2.8 and 3.2 is a multiplier, or setting and its the same chip, or in the case of memory, how fast they can get it to run, then they slap the label on it (5300), if it fails, they (manufacturing labs) reduce the speed until its stable, 4300, et-cetera.

In theory, you could find a batch of CPU's that are 2.8 and 3.2 (not much difference anyway) that may both reach the same speeds. Now, if they can get the FSB and voltage tweaked, you could see even higher speeds and the cool thing about it it Apple would have no way of knowing if the CPU crapped out 2.5 years down the road with a 3 year apple plan (which by the way is why 3 years is what is offered) as 3 seems to be the stable point for silicon with 4-5 being the norm with good use/handling, eventially, they all crap out.

Tip. Turning on and off the machine is actually worse than leaving it on, and its best to leave it on and let it sleep than to turn on and off all night - that's why studios, servers, business's always keep their machines on and they can last for years - another example are high end printers, they never go off, they are always on, even if drawing a few milliamps of power, they are still on as the "shock" of turning it on, decreases the wear on it each and every time.

Peace.

EDIT: I tend to think the 4-5 year window of crapping out is due to overclocking also = the board being exposed, moved around, checking fans, adding fans, more static, and so on.

On the flip side, it kills me that some old school mac a bee's when I run into them and their system is slow, they have a G4/G5 and have never run scripts, nor have run repair permissions and one guys computer had so many repairing permissions, that it was going to take more than 1-2 hours on a G4 as he never did it. I stood there for about 10 minutes watching pages upon pages or errors.....

Amazing. New generation of mac users = more tech savvy = faster machines (Overclocking) which might force the price points down (this is what intel did) with some of apples products, and perhaps, if someone can hack the GMA's and get OPENGL to work better, I think we'll see a dedicated GPU on all machines instead of Apple trying to screw the PRO user (smallest market base) in order for them to have to get a Mac Pro or Macbook Pro for any graphic use whatsoever.
 
Half a year ago, maybe. But not now and not with the Apple markup.

Are you 'effin high? Or just ride the short bus to school?

Apple is WAY undercutting these Mac Pros.

Go to Dell.com and build a Precision Workstation with Dual 3.2Ghz Xenons... and you STILL won't be able to equip it as well as the Mac Pro is by default... and it will cost you over $6K compared to just over $4200 for the Mac Pro.

Apple Markup? Welcome to 1995, not 2008. :rolleyes:
 
I used this at a safe green/initial yellow area, and now my Mac Pro 1.1 (bought in September 2006) refuses to reboot from OS X... the sleep light will just start blinking/pulsing, and nothing happens. At this point, I have to hold down the power button and start up the computer from scratch. What might be wrong, and how could I reverse the effects of this dastardly app?
 
I remember overclocking on older Macs, but it was extremely rare. One method required soldering.

There was also a program called iCook that was used on the later G3 iBooks. I don't know if it worked or not.

s.
 
I used this at a safe green/initial yellow area, and now my Mac Pro 1.1 (bought in September 2006) refuses to reboot from OS X... the sleep light will just start blinking/pulsing, and nothing happens. At this point, I have to hold down the power button and start up the computer from scratch. What might be wrong, and how could I reverse the effects of this dastardly app?

That should be it..once you reboot it goes away. The ram is usually the culprit as was for me. I took out third party ram and my Mac clocked from 2.66 to 3.1 ghz.
 
What about a tool to overclock GPU's for Mac. That would be more interesting.
 
3.10 GHz?

Thats a mild overclock compared to what the 45nm Core2s are capable of.

(And before anyone says its Xeon, the Xeons are based off the Core2)
 
This version of SysTool can be used with Vista 64. However, the kernel mode driver is not signed. So you have to press the F8 key, when booting into windows. You should see a menu, where you have to select "Disable driver signature enforcement".

This allows to run SysTool with Vista64. You have to do this every time you boot into Windows. To make it easier, not to miss the right time, when you have to press F8, you may enter "bcdedit /set {bootmgr} DisplayBootMenu yes" at the command prompt.

-Christoph

LOL i tried the tool. I guess it overclocks the cpu. But nothing else in the tool works. I'm working up on 5mhz increments.

3.10 GHz?

Thats a mild overclock compared to what the 45nm Core2s are capable of.

(And before anyone says its Xeon, the Xeons are based off the Core2)

They may be based off the core2 but the nature of the socket changes the way it handles data. Xeon's don't do well on overclocking. Always have. Just the nature of the beast. Also It being an intel server board isn't helping at all either.
 
I think i feel a mild increase in performance, but not sure if it's just my imagination. Regardless I'm up to 3.2 from 2.8 2008 quad with no stutter.
 
First Gen Mac Pro owners can use 800 mhz fb dimms for overclocking i suppose :rolleyes:
 
Wonder if this is worth it for me. I've got a 2.66GHz Mac Pro, and I'm fairly happy with the speed but I've been wondering about upgrading to a 3.0GHz Mac Pro..
 
Nice to know it's there, but no way I am going to try this on my 2.8

A marginal speed upgrade with big risks. It might be stable for some time, but I'm sure it will shorten the life of the CPU considerably.

If you want faster fps in games, get a faster video card. A slightly faster CPU won't help at all, as all newest DirectX 10 games have GPU bottlenecks.

But, again... it's cool that it is available. Just not for me. ;)

It will NOT shorten the life of your processor. I have been running windows on a 2.66 GHz chip overclocked to 3.8 GHz for nearly four years with nary a hiccup.
 
this is amazing news! TBH Apple should include the features of BIOS in the EFI - it'd be perfect!
 
It will NOT shorten the life of your processor. I have been running windows on a 2.66 GHz chip overclocked to 3.8 GHz for nearly four years with nary a hiccup.

3 seconds after typing this - his processor exploded! :p
 
So users think they know what clock speed their MacPros should be running at better than Apple (who designed the computer) do?
:rolleyes:
If you know how the CPU's is made you would know that what you say is not true. All the different speeds of the processors is from the exact same waffer. To make the different speeds they just use different multipliers on the CPU's. All the CPU's are able to run at the middle speed of their generation but some CPU's are able to run faster and those are sorted out with higher clockings. Some times a lot of the CPU's turns out with high speed but they still gets a low multiplier and a low speed.
 
Question is how does this work and can it be changed to work for other Core 2 Macs? good job zdnet.de
 
OC causing problems with Firewire audio interface

have been running my 2.8Ghz at 3101MHz for most of the evening with no ECC RAM problems. (8 of my 10GB are OWC aftermarket FB-DIMMS) Running mprime currently...

One problem I have noticed is an occasional audio interruption/cutout with the Presonus Firewire audio interface I use to drive my speakers. That's just while playing music. In a Skype conference I can't use that at all for audio and have to use headphones plugged into the tower.

(tangent: I've also noticed a lot of problems with this Mac Pro and firewire audio interfaces.. there was a nasty kernel panic which happened all the time that Apple fixed in 10.5.3, but even now, using an firewire iSight at the same time as firewire audio is still asking for all sorts trouble.)

So.. I may fire up this tool when I need to do some intense CPU crunching, such as VisualHub video re-encoding, however in general use I will leave it at the factory clock because I need my audio.
 
I am kind of surprised this program doesn't allow you to lock your other bus speeds down and only change the FSB (or the multiplier). I would be really wary of overclocking the bus with out that mechanism as your data could eventually get corrupted.

It is cool that there is a means to OC Intel Macs now.
 
You said even longer? I think it wouldn't be longer than 1 year, which i believe it's going to be Oct.
With Intel following their one year tick-tock strategy and AMD not providing any real competition at the high end, this approach is likely to continue as long as Apple uses top of the line Intel Xeon processors and chipsets. Intel hasn't released anything faster than the 3.2GHz processor Apple already uses and will likely only release a quad core 3.33GHz processor before Nehalem comes out.

About all Apple can do at this point with the Mac Pro is increase memory, add new video card options and add Blu-Ray as an option. Anyone even remotely paying attention these past few years already knows the likelihood of any of those three changes happening before January 2009. :D Until AMD can provide some competition at the top, or Apple stops using Intel's top of the line parts, I think we'll continue to see Mac Pro product cycles moving closer to one year between refreshes.
 
3 seconds after typing this - his processor exploded! :p
LOL no, but you're not going to get those kind of results out of a first gen Mac Pro. With overclocking a modern chip, there's not really a way to break it. If you run it up too high, or don't have adequate cooling, the chip will simply hit its temperature threshold and shut itself off before any damage can occur. Overclocking too much and having the PC shut down would be no different, in the mind of the thermal monitor in the chip, from the CPU fan failing and it overheating because it can't dissipate heat fast enough. In other words, overclock away, I'd say with the high quality parts that fill our Mac Pros, we've probably got somewhere around 30% headroom.
 
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