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In a Friday session at the Worldwide Developers Conference, Apple revealed some major updates to is native Podcasts app that will be coming in iOS 11. Some of the changes will affect podcast listeners, while others should make it easier for podcasters to learn more about their audience's listening habits.

As mentioned at Apple's WWDC Keynote earlier this week, the Podcasts app is getting an overhaul in iOS 11. Along with a new interface and better title handling, changes to the way Apple's podcast feed works should make for an improved experience for the end user, as Six Colors' Jason Snell explained in a blog post on Friday:
New extensions to Apple's podcast feed specification will allow podcasts to define individual seasons and explain whether an episode is a teaser, a full episode, or bonus content. These extensions will be read by the Podcast app and used to present a podcast in a richer way than the current, more linear, approach. (Since podcast feeds are just text, other podcast apps will be free to follow Apple's lead and also alter how they display podcasts based on these tags.)
Thanks to the new extensions, users will be able to download full seasons, and the Podcasts app will know if a podcast is supposed to be listened to in chronological order or if the most recent downloaded episode is the most relevant to the listener.

The other updates revealed on Friday are more relevant to podcasters. Notably, Apple is launching in-episode analytics, which will enable podcasters to discover how many people are listening to their episodes and where in the app listeners are stopping and skipping. The analytics will use anonymized data to ensure user privacy while allowing podcasters to know more about listening habits, like how many people skip ads, or how long a podcast runs before listeners lose interest.

The redesigned Podcasts app will come will iOS 11, which Apple is releasing in the fall. A public beta of the operating system is expected later this month.

(Thanks, Noah!)

Article Link: Overhauled Podcast App in iOS 11 to Bring Richer User Experience and Listener Analytics
 

RamGuy

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The app itself isn't all that bad, but the lack of modern features like dynamic / smart audio playback and dynamic / smart volume is not good enough in 2017.

Apps like Pocket Casts and Overcast have huge benefits when compared to Apple's Podcast.app when they can dynamically remove slienced parts of a podcast and dynamically tune and normalize the audio. I don't understand why Apple doesn't include such features.
 

Der Keyser

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Also, as long as it doesn't extend to the apple watch in terms of offline listening and sync, then it's pointless for me.
 
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purplefuku

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The new UI is so cluttered. Hard to tell what's a subscribed podcast and what's a suggestion/ad. Plus, they removed the ability to pinch in/out with 2 fingers to access controls when a video is fullscreen on iPad. You have to swipe up to get Control Center to access the jump forward/back buttons... (and this got me to migrate over to Pocket Casts for video podcasts...) Hopefully, they'll bring the new video controls/UI to the podcast app in future betas...
 

stevet

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Apple just needs to buy overcast and be done with it

Meh, he's blown his advantage at this point. Pocket Casts is far more reliable, doesn't come out with updates twice a week ( one to fix a bug and another to fix something broken by the fix). And the subscription model he's employed is a good attempt but paying that kind of money for a function that can be had for far cheaper is not going to last long with anyone other than an Arment friend or supporter. The last UI update sealed the deal for me. Not being able to tap on a podcast episode (or a play button on the episode) and have it play is a bad UI decision.
 

Aluminum213

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Meh, he's blown his advantage at this point. Pocket Casts is far more reliable, doesn't come out with updates twice a week ( one to fix a bug and another to fix something broken by the fix). And the subscription model he's employed is a good attempt but paying that kind of money for a function that can be had for far cheaper is not going to last long with anyone other than an Arment friend or supporter. The last UI update sealed the deal for me. Not being able to tap on a podcast episode (or a play button on the episode) and have it play is a bad UI decision.

It's free now
 

schneeland

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The app itself isn't all that bad, but the lack of modern features like dynamic / smart audio playback and dynamic / smart volume is not good enough in 2017.

Apps like Pocket Casts and Overcast have huge benefits when compared to Apple's Podcast.app when they can dynamically remove slienced parts of a podcast and dynamically tune and normalize the audio. I don't understand why Apple doesn't include such features.

It also lacks the fine-grained speed-control that Pocket Casts has - I normally listen to pod casts on 110% speed and that's simply not possible with the stock app. Besides Pocket Casts even has support for Chromecast Audio, but I can see why that's not the case with the stock app.
 
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Fall Under Cerulean Kites

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Apple just needs to buy overcast and be done with it

Overcast undobtedly has some great features, but Marco’s “eff everybody that doesn’t 100% agree with me” attitude has clouded his development of this app, and he’s been going down the road of UI/UX hell for months now. It’s a nightmare to navigate now. Tap. Swipe. Drop down. Tap. Swipe Right. Scroll down. Oops. Start over. Tap. Swipe. Oops. Damnit! Tap. Swipe. yeah, no thanks.

Besides, there’s honestly not enought there to “buy.” I doubt Apple would be interested in Marco as an employee. He’d be a nightmare to manage. And the killer features in the app could easily be coded by Apple’s in house developers in short order if they were interested in them.
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It's free now

Yes, this week, it’s free. We’ll see what happens next week.

Overcast’s latest monetization scheme is actually pretty great though. The ads are unobtrusive and useful. I have clicked on them a few times accidentally though. But overall, it’s a good solution to the how-to-get-money-from-cheap-people-who-only-want-free-apps problem.
 
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RedGT

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If it was more like RSSRADIO. . . . . . Where you can download media/recordings from iCloud and have an EQ, then I might be a bit more impressed.
 

thekeyring

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The app seems like it’s made by someone that doesn’t listen to podcasts. It takes too many taps to play an episode (besides using 3D Touch)

The Listen Now only shows a couple recent episodes, the rest is “ads” for other podcasts.

Maybe, uh... use 3D Touch then?

I could say "turning wifi on and off takes too many taps when not using control centre"!
 
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devsfan1830

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I'd like to at least see them cut down on the battery it consumes. Somehow that app seems to blast through battery far faster than the music app. I never stream. I always download episodes. Simple audio playback should not take that much power.
 

iDento

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Podcasts app works fine for me and the new icons is as good as the AppStore one, which is too sexy I want to lick it.
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App works fine for me. Since all I need it to do is play play podcasts.
How dare you post something in Macrumors without complaining?
 

perryke

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In a Friday session at the Worldwide Developers Conference, Apple revealed some major updates to is native Podcasts app that will be coming in iOS 11. Some of the changes will affect podcast listeners, while others should make it easier for podcasters to learn more about their audience's listening habits.

As mentioned at Apple's WWDC Keynote earlier this week, the Podcasts app is getting an overhaul in iOS 11. Along with a new interface and better title handling, changes to the way Apple's podcast feed works should make for an improved experience for the end user, as Six Colors' Jason Snell explained in a blog post on Friday:
Thanks to the new extensions, users will be able to download full seasons, and the Podcasts app will know if a podcast is supposed to be listened to in chronological order or if the most recent downloaded episode is the most relevant to the listener.

The other updates revealed on Friday are more relevant to podcasters. Notably, Apple is launching in-episode analytics, which will enable podcasters to discover how many people are listening to their episodes and where in the app listeners are stopping and skipping. The analytics will use anonymized data to ensure user privacy while allowing podcasters to know more about listening habits, like how many people skip ads, or how long a podcast runs before listeners lose interest.

The redesigned Podcasts app will come will iOS 11, which Apple is releasing in the fall. A public beta of the operating system is expected later this month.

(Thanks, Noah!)

Article Link: Overhauled Podcast App in iOS 11 to Bring Richer User Experience and Listener Analytics
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Westside guy

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The app seems like it’s made by someone that doesn’t listen to podcasts.

The last several iterations of the Podcast app seem like they were made by someone who doesn't listen to podcasts.

I commute on a train to and from work. I fill that time with podcasts, mostly. And the Apple app seems hellbent on getting in the way rather than just making it easy for me to listen.
 
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