Overhauled Scrivener 3 Writing Suite for macOS Now Available

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Popular long-form writing suite Scrivener reached a significant milestone late on Monday, with the long-awaited release of its third major iteration since its debut on Mac over a decade ago. Scrivener 3 brings a host of new features and improvements, including an overhauled interface with a more modern look, and a Compile system that is easier to use but also more flexible.


    The Compile window has been redesigned to present users with formatting options for exporting their project, a preview pane, and settings for the project, offering a more streamlined system for regular users but also quick access to more advanced options. In addition, support for ePub 3 and enhanced compatibility with the Kindle format are also now available.

    Meanwhile, a new bookmarking feature in Scrivener's Inspector pane works as a powerful cross-referencing tool, by allowing users to link individual documents in a project to other documents, to other locations on a Mac, or even to locations online.

    The application's metadata fields have also been improved, so that users can now use multiple-choice lists, customizable checkboxes, and dates to help organize their documents and research. Both the metadata fields and the aforementioned new bookmarking feature integrate into Scrivener's existing outliner view as well as its search function, making both features more powerful than ever before.


    Elsewhere, there's a new, more comprehensive system for styling text in documents, additional writing statistics for keeping track of progress, and a new "Copyholder" feature that enables users to refer to up to four documents in the main window. Draft and session progress bars have been added to the toolbar, while a new "Dialogue Focus" function highlights only dialogue in text. Lastly, the entire app codebase has been re-written for 64-bit, and extensive Touch Bar support has been added.

    Scrivener 3 is available now on macOS for $45 from the Literature and Latte website. Customers with an earlier version of Scrivener for macOS that was bought through the web store are eligible for an upgrade discount. Users who purchased Scrivener 2 on or after August 20, 2017, can update to Scrivener 3 for free. Scrivener 1 or 2 users who purchased before that date, can update to Scrivener 3 for the discounted price of $25.

    Article Link: Overhauled Scrivener 3 Writing Suite for macOS Now Available
  2. harrisondavies macrumors 6502


    Nov 21, 2010
    Newcastle upon Tyne
    I use this all the time for my series of novels. Best novel writing software out there, particularly for exporting to ebooks. Time for an upgrade.
  3. ck2875 macrumors 6502a


    Mar 25, 2009
    ...And now I wait for the MAS version. I don't care that it's cheaper through the L&L website, I've simply lost trust in third party companies to deliver malware-free software from their own servers.
  4. mw360 macrumors 68000


    Aug 15, 2010
    About time. I haven't given L&L any money in ages and they really deserve it.

    There's a scapple update too!
  5. Val-kyrie macrumors 68000

    Feb 13, 2005
    This is one of the few programs which I gladly pay for updates. Excellent software and support.
  6. Traverse macrumors 604


    Mar 11, 2013
    I love this application - it's one of the few apps that actually had a lasting impact on my daily life because it inspired my love for writing.

    I purchased this app through the Mac App Store originally - and I do prefer consolidating my apps there - but this time I decided to buy this directly from the developer as they work so hard and get so few opportunities to profit that I didn't want Apple taking a cut.

    I was going to take advantage of their discount and I dug out my old iTunes receipt and realized that I bought this app in 2014 for $22.99 on sale so they only received about $17. For 3 years I've used this app for personal writing, school, my these, etc. They deserve far more than my $17 so I elected not to use that discount.

    Ha! Writing that made me sound so snobby - I didn't mean it that way.


    As for the app itself, it's a really nice upgrade. The updated composition mode aligns with the dark theme of the iOS app. The user interface is much more refined, and the new Preferences pane is far more approachable even to someone that has some Scrivener experiences.

    Overall, a solid job.
  7. danckwerts macrumors regular


    Jun 7, 2008
    Richmond upon Thames
    I must commend L&L for giving Apple Appstore customers the same upgrade deal as direct purchasers.
  8. Traverse macrumors 604


    Mar 11, 2013
    I am too. Most developers just say that if you purchased from the MAS you’re out of luck and blame Apple.

    This developer is truly user focused.
  9. RevTEG macrumors 6502a


    Oct 28, 2012
    San Jose, Ca
  10. BasicGreatGuy, Nov 21, 2017
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2017

    BasicGreatGuy Contributor


    Sep 21, 2012
    In the middle of several books.
    The following code will give you 20% off Scrivener 3.0

  11. petsounds macrumors 65816

    Jun 30, 2007
    Unfortunately it looks like they still only support Dropbox.
  12. Luba macrumors 65816


    Apr 22, 2009
    LL doesn't say how they want us to prove we bought the app on the MAS. What are we supposed to email them with? I was going to email them a screen shot, but I don't think that's sufficient. I wonder if I still have my receipt sent by email from MAS??
  13. Spacetime Anomaly macrumors member

    Spacetime Anomaly

    Mar 9, 2017
    Way out in space
    Forward them your old receipt.

    The instructions and email address are here: http://www.literatureandlatte.com/introducing-scrivener-3
  14. ignatius345 macrumors 68020

    Aug 20, 2015
    Oh come on. I download updates to Omnifocus and many other apps every time they're updated and I'm doing just fine, thanks.

    I'd rather 100% of my purchase support the developer, thanks -- especially when they're doing the right thing and refraining from the "cup of coffee a month" rental gouge (cough Ulysses).

    The new Scrivener update looks pretty sweet, and I may well buy it.

    Does it have a way to hold an "all in one" library like Ulysses does? I've come to really like the simplicity of opening up the app and knowing all my writing is in one place without ***** about with managing documents in the finder.
  15. Traverse macrumors 604


    Mar 11, 2013
    As was mentioned, just forward them your iTunes receipt.
  16. logicstudiouser macrumors 6502a


    Feb 4, 2010
    This looks like a pretty neat app. I'm no novelist, but I do dabble with writing from time to time. I'll do the trial first, price seems reasonable for what you get.
  17. happyslayer macrumors 6502a


    Feb 3, 2008
    Glendale, AZ
    Yay, been waiting for this. I've had the occasional glitch and crash issues on 2.81 since I often run Dev Beta versions of Mac OS. Wow, it downloaded and installed very quick. Very snappy so far, opening and converting some of my old manuscripts. Seems very nice. Off to watch some tutorial videos now...
  18. CmdrLaForge macrumors 601


    Feb 26, 2003
    around the world
    Is it any good for writing scientific papers? In particular citations, references, automatic table of content and such things or is it more for the novelist?
  19. Supertaff macrumors member

    May 20, 2014
    I've used this application since 2011, on both Mac and Windows, I think as a writing application it is one of theist out there. I'm not a novelist and use it mainly for IT Architecture documents for my job in mobile telecommunications. Find it so much more useful than word in that I can develop a document over a long period, only issue completed sections via the compile function, have mark ups as to what is WIP and what is completed. I can hold all my research on the subjects I'm working on in the Research section of the binder. I also use it via Dragon Dicate so I can sit back on my chair and just dictate my documents rather than type them.

    Don't look at this product as just a tool for novelists, if you write any large documents you will benefit from Scrivener

    I bought the new version yesterday and so far I'm impressed, but have only just touched the surface of the new version, so will take me a while to get to know all the new features and differences.

    Well done L&L another great product.
  20. PhoneI macrumors 68000

    Mar 7, 2008
    I have used this app for years for technical writing assignments. Simply the best writing tool out there. The developer is also second to none in terms of support.
  21. Traverse macrumors 604


    Mar 11, 2013
    I wrote a similar type of 80 theses. Scrivener has improved supports for this type of workflow since then, but I did all of my writing in Scrivener and left highlighted markers where diagrams and tables went.

    Scrivener had a way of implementing EndNote citations that would update them self when in Word.

    When the project was done I exported it to Wors, updating the formatting, created the ToC and used a one click EndNote button to update all of my refenrces.

    For formal papers Scrivener isn’t meant to produce the final document. It keeps you organized and helps you *write* it. Then you use a traditional word processor to add the final touches.
  22. bwintx macrumors 6502


    Jul 17, 2002
    Hats off to the team at L&L! Downloaded and installed Scrivener 3 last night. Converted my work-in-progress to the new format without a hitch and I am loving the control over styles. Looking forward to learning the other new stuff!
  23. RevTEG macrumors 6502a


    Oct 28, 2012
    San Jose, Ca
    Sorry for the question, I just haven't found the answer yet. Does Scrivener automatically backup the latest version of a writing project to dropbox or do you have to manage each version. Example, If I add to a current project will that auto update my changes to dropbox like iCloud does with the Notes or Pages app, or will I need to go into dropbox each time to add the new and delete the old? Hope that makes sense..
  24. Traverse macrumors 604


    Mar 11, 2013
    You save the scrivener file in Dropbox and changes save sync like a regular file.

    You can also specify a folder for .zip backups to be save on project open, close, and each manual save.
  25. brookter1 macrumors member

    Aug 5, 2015
    Scrivener has several backup options built in.

    The way I (and many other people) use it is:

    a) The working Scrivener file (.scriv) is in a Dropbox folder. This means that it's backed up to the cloud and you can work on the same file on more than one computer (as long as you're careful to close it on one before you open it on the other). BTW within the project you can keep an unlimited number of previous versions of each document by taking 'snapshots', which you can then compare against the latest version.

    b) I set the backup feature in Scrivener to keep automatic backups every time the project is closed, or every time I do a manual save (cmd-s). The backups are zipped and dated or you can set it keeps the latest 25 of them. I keep the backups on iCloud Drive, so they're also backed up to the cloud. These backups are for emergencies -- you never work on them again unless you need to.

    c) Of course, there's Time Machine doing it's stuff as well.

    So, essentially, once you've set all this up, it's totally transparent and you don't have to do anything. If you do get a problem with the current file, then the first port of call would be Time Machine, then start looking through the zipped backups — I have never had to do this and I've been using the program since 2009.
    --- Post Merged, Nov 23, 2017 ---
    For full disclosure, if you like, I've been beta testing Version 3 since the beginning of the year. I gave up using Version 2 after a week of starting using the beta.

    From the beginning it more solid for me than many programs are when they've been released, the new features are genuinely very useful, and some of the processes have been simplified and improved. It's an amazing achievement in my view and early upgrading is a no-brainer if meet the hardware and software requirements (it's purely 64bit) -- they're not onerous though.

    The only caveat I'd give is for experienced users of Scrivener who know the old way of compiling...

    The new compilation method is both simpler and more powerful -- but if you're used to compiling the old way, you'll find that some of the underlying assumptions and processes have changed, so...

    a) Don't upgrade your essential project if you've got a deadline next week! You can run V2 and V3 side by side with no problems, so use V2 until you've got more time.

    b) Take a short while to do the 'What's new in V3' section of the Tutorial, and to watch the videos on Compilation.

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